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Ascendent Logic

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JEasy wrote:

*lol @ extra large smiley*

That's like only 1/10th of the original size, though. Thus we named it Pz's smiley of forum doom.




Transcendent

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Vindicator

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GoDGiVeR wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

Garu wrote:

Mindsweep wrote:

Garu wrote:

Mindsweep wrote:

Garu wrote:


 


*summons PZ's smilie of doom*

DA** YOU squirrel, faster than me. I still got the original sized smiley ... when MxO goes down I'll post them a few times ^^

Can you send me the link? I lost it... truth: that's the only reason I didn't post it! I had to google search for this version. :(

 

Edit: Huh? What? Off-topic? Meh, whatever, I'm out of here in three days anyway... oh, fine. I agree with those people that say it's a cheap move, but not an exploit. Very very dirty--but not illegal! Kinda like picking the obviously overpowered character/team in a fighting/strategy game all the time.


Message edited by ZippyTheSquirrel on 03/31/2009 19:04:17.



Systemic Anomaly

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Vesuveus wrote:

This is annoying, but it's not an exploit. An exploit is the use of a bug to gain unfair advantage. This is the cheap use of something that is perfectly legal.

When you log ingame, does it say normal PvP rules apply? That is what it says when you leave the Paci zone which to me means you should be still flagged, meaning its a bug getting used to gain an unfair advantage (deflag before you should be able to.)

I'm not gonna argue with yous till i'm blue in the face, i'm just gonna /bug it. Why let people get away with doing 1 hit and running off? lol Whats next, buffer in there to recall? lol

As i said i had done it to go 'ha 2's up, i can do it to' but relised it pretty much says you should be flagged (PvP rules apply) so then it should be a bug.

I'v just got the impression from yous all that its 'meh so and so does it, i can do it, so who cares.'

All i ask for is to be flagged when you walk back out, which surely is possible since your pvp timer must be still running for it to kick up a messgage saying PvP rules apply.

Jeez, stop being 'carebears'...




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Let me put it this way...

your playing a FPS, FF on. Some wee bam is rocket launchering you every time he sees you. You get the chance and fire 20 bullets into his head, nothing happens...

Thats what its like, how can yous say that aint a bug lol If someone is to kill you, your expected to manage to go back and kill them.

Fair enough it may take what, 20 secs to do, back at mara c deflagged... lol

At least with vector it is only recalls and sneak attacks rather than that radgy blue attacking lol So easy.


Message edited by The_Bruceter on 04/01/2009 01:52:18.



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The_Bruceter wrote:

Vesuveus wrote:

This is annoying, but it's not an exploit. An exploit is the use of a bug to gain unfair advantage. This is the cheap use of something that is perfectly legal.

 

Jeez, stop being 'carebears'...





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The_Bruceter wrote:

Let me put it this way...

your playing a FPS, FF on. Some wee bam is rocket launchering you every time he sees you. You get the chance and fire 20 bullets into his head, nothing happens...

Thats what its like, how can yous say that aint a bug lol If someone is to kill you, your expected to manage to go back and kill them.

Fair enough it may take what, 20 secs to do, back at mara c deflagged... lol

At least with vector it is only recalls and sneak attacks rather than that radgy blue attacking lol So easy.


Bruce, it's the spoils of PVPing on a non-hostile server.  There are tons of disadvantages to it in comparison to Vector.  Better be glad you weren't around for all the blue-rezzing.  Now THAT was a pain in the arse!

I wouldn't concern myself with those that use such cheap tricks.  Clearly they do it to generate a reaction and, frankly, you're giving them plenty o lulz for getting so worked up over it.  Pay them no mind and just focus on the people who PvP to have fun, not to irritate.

 




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The_Bruceter wrote:

All i ask for is to be flagged when you walk back out, which surely is possible since your pvp timer must be still running for it to kick up a messgage saying PvP rules apply.

No, no it isn't, I thought this had been explained. Look for the key word in the message:

the flag has been turned off.. and just as the message says in the second line, when you leave the pacification zone:

Normal PvP rules that apply to a non-hostile server are 'Non-Hostile until typing /pvp, attacking a Hostile player or entering a PvP zone'. Hostile worlds are one big PvP zone which is why your flags turn back on after leaving.

Should it be back on when leaving, I still say yes with the Paci zone either pausing the pvp timer or still allowing it to continue in the background. However it doesn't and no matter how many times this has been CCR'd, /bug'd, complained about on the forums, it's not changed and it's unlikely to change.

If you're gonna PvP on a 'carebear' server you'd just have to get used to the extra danger of blue snipes/punts etc..



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Ah fook it, if you can't beat them, join them i suppose.... a pity though cause it just ain't quite pvp... lol

@Garu: Everytime i see someone bail to a hardline it cracks me up lol Its the fear has gripped them so they need to be safe again. As soon as i roll, he's straight to the hardline lol All I would like is for an issue like that which really does spoil PvP, to not be so easy and accessable to do lol but nope, everyone does it so its cool.

I don't see it as an extra danger lol you can see them do it, i ain't blind... just i'm a bit use use to being able to hinder the sniper/mkt or even if they do kill me, come back and hunt for them. Suppose that would be to much for the poor wee mutt, to much chance of getting caught.

 

It is a pity though, been trying to get some people to hit 50 over there for when its only a couple of us v a gank or for when its us v no-one, but all this just shows it. Everyone was right all these years lol


Message edited by The_Bruceter on 04/01/2009 07:27:58.



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Hardly any pvp now a days anyways so all i'll say is:  WHO CARES




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The_Bruceter wrote:

Ah fook it, if you can't beat them, join them i suppose.... a pity though cause it just ain't quite pvp... lol

@Garu: Everytime i see someone bail to a hardline it cracks me up lol Its the fear has gripped them so they need to be safe again. As soon as i roll, he's straight to the hardline lol All I would like is for an issue like that which really does spoil PvP, to not be so easy and accessable to do lol but nope, everyone does it so its cool.

I don't see it as an extra danger lol you can see them do it, i ain't blind... just i'm a bit use use to being able to hinder the sniper/mkt or even if they do kill me, come back and hunt for them. Suppose that would be to much for the poor wee mutt, to much chance of getting caught.

 

It is a pity though, been trying to get some people to hit 50 over there for when its only a couple of us v a gank or for when its us v no-one, but all this just shows it. Everyone was right all these years lol

Back to Vector with you Bruce!   Don't upset the non-PvPers SMILEY




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Villemar_MxO wrote:

Back to Vector with you Bruce!   Don't upset the non-PvPers


I know right!  I'd be happy to snipe you and not run for my life to the nearest hardline. ^^




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The_Bruceter wrote:

Vesuveus wrote:

This is annoying, but it's not an exploit. An exploit is the use of a bug to gain unfair advantage. This is the cheap use of something that is perfectly legal.

When you log ingame, does it say normal PvP rules apply? That is what it says when you leave the Paci zone which to me means you should be still flagged, meaning its a bug getting used to gain an unfair advantage (deflag before you should be able to.)

I'm not gonna argue with yous till i'm blue in the face, i'm just gonna /bug it. Why let people get away with doing 1 hit and running off? lol Whats next, buffer in there to recall? lol

As i said i had done it to go 'ha 2's up, i can do it to' but relised it pretty much says you should be flagged (PvP rules apply) so then it should be a bug.

I'v just got the impression from yous all that its 'meh so and so does it, i can do it, so who cares.'

All i ask for is to be flagged when you walk back out, which surely is possible since your pvp timer must be still running for it to kick up a messgage saying PvP rules apply.

Jeez, stop being 'carebears'...


If you're on vector and don't re-flag, I'd agree that it's a bug.

The function of the pacification zone is to shut off flags. On Syntax and Recursion, this means they remain off until the player types that happy little command. That's normal pvp rules. If there is a problem with that, then there must be a bug. I wouldn't know. I don't pvp.

Jeez, stop 'double posting'...


 
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