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Femme Fatale

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Zerotolerance wrote:
FAQ360 wrote:

 

 

If the idea of having PVP Safe area on hostel servers, then why not PVP "Hot" Zones on the non - hostel servers. This is aimed at the "Recursion" server.

I think this would add more of a rush to the game and expand the PVP Arana know as Mara C.

So Please...   If you also dream of such thing, join with me and make it known to the dev's that this is something we all wish for.  It should not be all that hard to implement.

 

 

 

 

My idea for a solution is VERY simple.

Make all three servers into one server, with International and Downtown being Hostile. We no longer have to deal with a lack of people and everyone can PVP or be carebears to their liking. Pac zones and un-Pac zones can be raised and lowered to the devs liking and they don't have to split their attention between three servers and make any of them feel left out.


No!

I am from Syntax and I spend time in DT and Inter, why should I move to Richland and Westview because I dont want to PvP?  When you get to a certain level, missions started in Richland force you to Westview when the enemies are 15-20 levels ahead of you, so the obvious idea is to move to International when a load of 50s will make your job even harder, no thanks.

Anyway, isn't there a reason Vector isn't as popular.... mabey, just mabey, not everyone wants to be perma flagged?  Mabey /pvp does a good enough job?  If you want to PvP, flag up and wait in a popular area if they want to fight, they will attack.  If you are on Vector and you want to PvP, attacking someone who doesn't will just mean they move away from you and the PvP will stop if they do they will fight back, same as Syntax and Recursion.

Also, the merger of 3 servers into one is the last thing to happen before MxO is switched off.  None of the servers are left out and they are going a good job considering.  If people want perma flagging, thats what vector is for, if they started a character on that server they wouldn't need perma flagged zones on the non-hostile places.  Non-hostile means PvP is optional, being forced into other districts is not optional.




Mainframe Invader

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downtown, and westview, and international should be the pvp zones on the non hostile servers



Femme Fatale

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Darkhorse wrote:
downtown, and westview, and international should be the pvp zones on the non hostile servers

If you want PvP there is a whole server dedicated to it.



Mainframe Invader

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i know, just a matter of me grinding a 5th level 50



Femme Fatale

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Darkhorse wrote:
i know, just a matter of me grinding a 5th level 50

Exactly, thats all it takes to have a perma flag, a week or two of grinding.  There is no reason to bring down the play of the people who dont want perma flags.



Mainframe Invader

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its not a week or two mate, you figure all the gear money and abs to get alot more than a week or two



Systemic Anomaly

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20136098 wrote:
Zerotolerance wrote:
FAQ360 wrote:

 

 

If the idea of having PVP Safe area on hostel servers, then why not PVP "Hot" Zones on the non - hostel servers. This is aimed at the "Recursion" server.

I think this would add more of a rush to the game and expand the PVP Arana know as Mara C.

So Please...   If you also dream of such thing, join with me and make it known to the dev's that this is something we all wish for.  It should not be all that hard to implement.

 

 

 

 

My idea for a solution is VERY simple.

Make all three servers into one server, with International and Downtown being Hostile. We no longer have to deal with a lack of people and everyone can PVP or be carebears to their liking. Pac zones and un-Pac zones can be raised and lowered to the devs liking and they don't have to split their attention between three servers and make any of them feel left out.


No!

I am from Syntax and I spend time in DT and Inter, why should I move to Richland and Westview because I dont want to PvP?  When you get to a certain level, missions started in Richland force you to Westview when the enemies are 15-20 levels ahead of you, so the obvious idea is to move to International when a load of 50s will make your job even harder, no thanks. *

Anyway, isn't there a reason Vector isn't as popular.... mabey, just mabey, not everyone wants to be perma flagged?  Mabey /pvp does a good enough job?  If you want to PvP, flag up and wait in a popular area if they want to fight, they will attack.  If you are on Vector and you want to PvP, attacking someone who doesn't will just mean they move away from you and the PvP will stop if they do they will fight back, same as Syntax and Recursion. *

Also, the merger of 3 servers into one is the last thing to happen before MxO is switched off.  None of the servers are left out and they are going a good job considering.  If people want perma flagging, thats what vector is for, if they started a character on that server they wouldn't need perma flagged zones on the non-hostile places.  Non-hostile means PvP is optional, being forced into other districts is not optional. *

* Welcome to leveling on Vector. You're only concerned about an area of the city being permaflagged (like Constructs) because you're used to not being flagged. If you've played this game for any amount of time, you're used to the way your servers operates and you're like everyone else -- resistant to change. I'm not stating that as a flame; I'm just using it to detail your feelings -- your apprehension towards my suggestions.

Many people on Vector griped about the Pacification Zones, but then they found that the Zones were a good idea. I feel as though making Downtown and International into PVP zones on all servers, Richland and Westview into Pacified Zones, would change things up. Make Clubs in International and Downtown pacified, as safespots (or "holy ground"SMILEY and you've created a more MATRIX-like experience of danger and hostility lurking around every corner.

* Maybe /pvp doesn't, tho? I have lowbie alts on Syntax and Recursion. More often than naught I find that Mara Central on both of the non-hostile servers is rather boring. Only a few people flag and you have to deal with blue Logic Cannons. I'll sum it up to them being carebear servers and needing to exist for a reason. Not everyone wants to PVP, just as you stated. But there should be areas setup in the Matrix where you're safe as well as areas setup that have you constantly living in fear. You're going to be more careful Downtown, obviously, if you're flagged while there. You'll be forced to adapt and learn something new. It might even be fun.

* I'm not saying that they aren't doing a good job with this game. Certainly, other people have griped from ALL servers about not getting enough attention. I think the players are somewhat demanding, but that goes hand in hand with their dedication and a desire to want more, more, more. So maybe it's not demanding, afterall? In due time, we'll all get more attention but there are days, weeks, and months where Vector seems to be a dying cancer-patient. In the event that Vector becomes so dead that we'll need a realistic solution for all of the players on Vector to keep playing, merging it with another server -- if not both -- is going to be the logical answer.

Of course, Vectorites won't like this one bit. So there'd have to be a way to appease both crowds. Having an entire area of districts as Hostile would be an answer, but I understand you don't want to have that on your server. It's opposition like that which SOE will listen to, so luckily my suggestion will probably never come to reality. You deserve to have your peace and diplomacy. It's all that's going to be left, Recursion and Syntax, when we've finished losing the rest of our players. SMILEY




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I think only certain places should be PvP hot on the carebear servers. Hel, Government buildings, exile leader strongholds... the such.



Mainframe Invader

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yea i undestand the rpers getting mad about me saying hotzones but this is the matrix folks, no offense, the combat system is very key for your survivale



Mainframe Invader

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Zerotolerance wrote:
FAQ360 wrote:

 

 

If the idea of having PVP Safe area on hostel servers, then why not PVP "Hot" Zones on the non - hostel servers. This is aimed at the "Recursion" server.

I think this would add more of a rush to the game and expand the PVP Arana know as Mara C.

So Please...   If you also dream of such thing, join with me and make it known to the dev's that this is something we all wish for.  It should not be all that hard to implement.

 

 

 

 

My idea for a solution is VERY simple.

Make all three servers into one server, with International and Downtown being Hostile. We no longer have to deal with a lack of people and everyone can PVP or be carebears to their liking. Pac zones and un-Pac zones can be raised and lowered to the devs liking and they don't have to split their attention between three servers and make any of them feel left out.

Ive had this idea for awhile now, pvp would be crazy with cross server rivalries. It would also greatly improve the number of players on at any one time, with downtime lag just about fixed this wouldnt be a problem. Only problem i see is there would be a massive imbalance in the economy as players from recursion (who are ultra rich due to the crew bank bug) would come over with all their info.



Mainframe Invader

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it is the matix rper or not you need to be able to handle yourself in combat vs others



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Darkhorse wrote:
it is the matix rper or not you need to be able to handle yourself in combat vs others


Let me translate that for my Vector peeps: "wheres ur skill noob, learn to play the game so ur not suxorz" Darkhorse has successfully understood the point I was trying to make.

Additionally, there's plenty of roleplayers on Vector. Afterall, a third of those roleplayers left for Recursion. SMILEY We'd all win, because then we'd have those people back.




Mainframe Invader

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lol



Jacked Out

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Zerotolerance wrote:
FAQ360 wrote:

 

 

If the idea of having PVP Safe area on hostel servers, then why not PVP "Hot" Zones on the non - hostel servers. This is aimed at the "Recursion" server.

I think this would add more of a rush to the game and expand the PVP Arana know as Mara C.

So Please...   If you also dream of such thing, join with me and make it known to the dev's that this is something we all wish for.  It should not be all that hard to implement.

 

 

 

 

My idea for a solution is VERY simple.

Make all three servers into one server, with International and Downtown being Hostile. We no longer have to deal with a lack of people and everyone can PVP or be carebears to their liking. Pac zones and un-Pac zones can be raised and lowered to the devs liking and they don't have to split their attention between three servers and make any of them feel left out.

When pigs fly. Lag problems are bad as it is, and that moronic solution would kill off the game.


Virulent Mind

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In my opinium are PVP Enabled Areas and Non PVP Areas a good Idea. Cuz we can talk and meeting with other Enemys at the Non PVP Areas or mission without getting ganked.


 
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