[8.1.1] The Machines have stopped pretending - Vector - 7/13/07

**The_Kid**

Everyone,

Now that Zion's in this thing too, there are new dangers, but also new chances for victory. If we play our cards right, we can end this war once and for all.

Michael

Havocide

0.o Kid has google eyes.

**GamiSB** · 07/17/2007 10:48:08

"I'm not going to advocate any plan that results in millions of deaths--not if there's any other way" ~ Kid

Odd I thought Kid was a idioctic terrorsit leader that didn't give a *CENSORED* about anyone but EPN. At least that's what Machinest tell me.

**Weskie**

(( Omg, he doesn't have them ugly boots anymore! ))

Mnemasyne

You heard him, people. It's time to move, and move with purpose. You are correct, GamiSB. The machinists will say what they wish, but the important thing is that we do this the right way. If the millions of lives still plugged in can be spared in all this, we want to make sure that happens.

Zion, Pluribus - We've got a lot of work to do, and we need to get moving.

**cloudwolf** · 07/17/2007 11:16:10

(( If this doesn't convince Syntax Zionists that officially dealing with EPN during this time is a bad idea i don't know what will =P ))

**LtCmdr_Tsusai**

Look out whoever you are, not too sure Ghost likes competition :p

**Croesis** · 07/17/2007 12:08:43

What you have just seen is the course of action taken against terrorists within the simulation, you overestimate your security.
Agent Pace has made it clear that threats to the system will not be tolerated.

I did see Popper saying;
"I'm not going to advocate any plan that results in millions of deaths--not if there's any other way"

But how many would he sacrifice if all that stood between defeat and victory were bluepills?
1?... 10?... 100?... 1000?... 10,000?...... How many is acceptable for victory?
Can you really say that he wouldn't sacrifice the life of one innocent bluepill?

What do you see when you look at your hero, your leader?
I see a relic, a fossil, a throwback to a time when all Humankind feared their own creation. Thankfully there are those of us able to get past that prejudice, and it is those of us who can see past these age old problems and it is us who will prevail while your ideals fade in the wind of a new dawn of unity between Man and Machine.

**Avalod**

GamiSB wrote:

"I'm not going to advocate any plan that results in millions of deaths--not if there's any other way" ~ Kid
Odd I thought Kid was a idioctic terrorsit leader that didn't give a *CENSORED* about anyone but EPN. At least that's what Machinest tell me.

Well.... Least he has heart still...... (( unlike whomever idiotic idea it was to make a competition for CQ's on Cyph and Mechs in Whole and winner gets a item or hearty handshake and hug from shimada and kid.. I just find some ways he wants to get things done.. in a hurry )) *sighs* And i say to help everyone when sometimes he still wishes to help.. his own kind..... Tell me kid.. If you know there is another way.... will you do that way.. or still take the risk of casualties.... I for now know there is another way.....

**Illyria22**

"We know what we have to do: shut the Machines down. That's the only way to be sure."

So what you're saying is that you want to wipe out the Machine race? Just like our ancestors tried to do?

All I can say -- aside from that your willingness to commit genocide sickens me -- is that I'm glad you've stopped pretending too. Now your true agenda is here for everyone to see...unless, of course, you're going to use the excuse I've been hearing so much of lately: that your words were 'taken out of context'.

Illyria

**Hanzyl and Gretyl**

Oh the memories..... it was like i was there... the whole time.

**GamiSB**

Illyria22 wrote:

"We know what we have to do: shut the Machines down. That's the only way to be sure."
So what you're saying is that you want to wipe out the Machine race? Just like our ancestors tried to do?
All I can say -- aside from that your willingness to commit genocide sickens me -- is that I'm glad you've stopped pretending too. Now your true agenda is here for everyone to see...unless, of course, you're going to use the excuse I've been hearing so much of lately: that your words were 'taken out of context'.

Illyria

"I'm not going to advocate any plan that results in millions of deaths--not if there's any other way" ~ Kid

Stop doesn't mean destory or kill now does it? Please try and look past the blindfolds the Machines have on you. They only make you look all the more ignorant.

**Illyria22**

He said 'shut them down', not 'stop them'.

And the genocide I was speaking of refers to the Machine race, not the bluepills...who, incidentally, will probably all die if the Machines and the Matrix are 'shut down'.

Illyria

**GamiSB** · 07/17/2007 12:52:05

Illyria22 wrote:

He said 'shut them down', not 'stop them'.
And the genocide I was speaking of refers to the Machine race, not the bluepills...who, incidentally, will probably all die if the Machines and the Matrix are 'shut down'.

Illyria

And again

"I'm not going to advocate any plan that results in millions of deaths--not if there's any other way" ~ Kid

If it's going to kill millions then we aint gonna do it. We are all well aware of the fact that the blues are dependent on the Matrix/Machie. There's more then just one way to shut down a system.

**Proximisio**

Owned by Pace. How surprising.