CERN's LHC: End of the world begins 10 Sep!!!

**imax** · 09/03/2008 14:01:55

I don't belive a tiny black hole will be created, and I dont think if one was created it would swallow up the earth. Why do I not belive it?

I'm simply not that lucky

Heirloom

I'm just not too sure on what exactly to expect (then again, who is sure?). I definitely agree that some experts probably know more than the general public, but I could be idealistic.

**Denary**

Rarebit wrote:

I have only done this once before.

What? time travelled or sucked into a black hole? IS THERE COOKIES!!!

**Virrago**

Denary wrote:

Rarebit wrote:
I have only done this once before.

What? time travelled or sucked into a black hole? IS THERE COOKIES!!!

I am here to warn your government...I am from the future...don't activate the Large Hadron Collider....All will be lost...

**Proximisio**

I wouldn't mind if the world ended anyway. My checklist is already complete:

Play the greatest game ever: Check

Drink 20 sodas in one night: Check

Play Mercenaries 2: Check

**Denary**

I find it funny that he's come to warn us about our impending doom when; if he knows about our impending doom, it would mean.... he would already be dead.

**Virrago**

Denary wrote:

I find it funny that he's come to warn us about our impending doom when; if he knows about our impending doom, it would mean.... he would already be dead.

Unless aliens with time travel capibility rescued him and sent him back SMILEY

**Cadsuane**

Rarebit wrote:

I have only done this once before.

Epic win.

For those who don't know:

**shinpseudo**

Procurator wrote:

shinpseudo wrote:
This is a topic fairly near and dear to me, as I designed the web site for the LHC through my company in Chicago.
Good stuff! Although technically this is the site for the LHC. Yours is for a particular (no pun intended) research group as far as I can tell.

Thanks. The site I had done is considered the central site for information on the LHC project as requested by Fermilab; the link you posted is CERN-specific with a page on the LHC. The uslhc.us site has been there for about a year, and the spin-off design requests in the past month+ preceding the first beam...posters, t-shirts, mini-sites, etc. are carrying the logo/identity from uslhc.us. I really can't wait for them to turn the Collider on. Please turn it on.

**ManicV**

Bring it on.

If the LHC is successful, we'll most probably learn some really cool stuff, and we'll most likely run it again to learn more really cool stuff.

If the LHC creates a world-ending black hole, we'll soon be dead and thus unable to care.

Can't lose!

**phi** · 09/03/2008 18:46:13

Virrago wrote:

pyro20 wrote:

Personally I'm more worried that Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse will get married and produce mutant babies that will enslave humanity with their bizarre sounding voices.

You made me laugh coffee from my nose

Ironically pyro20's fear is far more likely to happen... I predict their offspring would bring about Mave's Zombie Apocalypse.

the only thing the LHC does is let us create these particle impacts in a known location so they can be measured. Collisions like this happen in our atmosphere every day.

Clearly the folks that think the moon landing was faked are behind this lawsuit. More proof of the government putting crack in the water supply.

**phi**

If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)

ReProgrammed

phi wrote:

If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)

If I remember correctly your talking about the super string theory, or something along that line.

**MarsNova**

phi wrote:

If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)

There is also the theory where it would correct itself if you infact did that and it would not make another timeline. They talked about it in futurama so it must be true. They have robots aliens AND flying cars.

**phi** · 09/03/2008 21:00:27

ReProgrammed wrote:

phi wrote:
If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)
If I remember correctly your talking about the super string theory, or something along that line.

Super String theory is based off that 10/11 dimentional structure, yes.

Time travel is folding through the 5th dimention in that model. Paradox-free time travel involves folding through the 6th or higher dimention.

Quick explination of 10 dimentional structure (It's not quite accurate but a very good illustrative explination)...
PART 1: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
PART 2: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o