Stop the presses, Sati has a purpose?

**CPT_Starschwar**

Illyria22 wrote:

Sounds like Sati has some emergent properties that neither her parents or the Machines were aware of...and now it seems that she's gone from an exile to a program with a purpose.
I know that some of my fellow Machinists won't agree with me, but I hope this could be the beginning of the Machines being less harsh to their own kind -- less willing to simply delete a program that appears to have outlasted or outgrown its purpose.

Illyria

I was under the impression that only the highly-dangerous exiles (i.e. interfere with Machine operations, detrimental to efficiency of the system, posing a threat to the life of the blues, etc) were marked for deletion, while the benign or helpful ones were left alone. After all, Gray has had us meet with various exiles (Thalia et al) for various purposes, and they rarely if ever feared they were facing deletion. Silver made a comment in a recent live event, to the effect of "[the machines] tolerate my presence here. Do not question them."

**Kemy**

Illyria22 wrote:

Sounds like Sati has some emergent properties that neither her parents or the Machines were aware of...and now it seems that she's gone from an exile to a program with a purpose.
I know that some of my fellow Machinists won't agree with me, but I hope this could be the beginning of the Machines being less harsh to their own kind -- less willing to simply delete a program that appears to have outlasted or outgrown its purpose.

Illyria

Oh, I like that idea.
Sounds to me like the Machines are evolving. Where kids can be simply kids and play around, go to school, learn a profession (get a purpose) and work their entire life.
Machines becoming more human alike.
I wonder how far it'd go... Would to some point the differences between Machines and humans become unnoticable? Where we then see Neo again, writing programs for Metacortex as a purpose, yet rejects the system and writes other programs as a hacker? Neo is send to the Source (Zion) to be deleted in Zero One and history continues to repeat itself.

I kid, I kid.

I do like the theory of the Machines evolving though.

**zeroone506**

Everyone familiar with the Kid's blog entry? I thought it was a related, and interesting topic.

1) Paul Chadwick seems to intend to give the Kid an aspect of ignorance and naivity - shown in some of his remarks about the Cypherites, his theories about the General and now this.

I think it's a fact that Sati did not have a purpose before she was brought to the Matrix - basically, what everyone said here. However, she already did have her appearence. Thus, her appearence has nothing to do with her purpose to control the sunshine (or only to manipulate it once a week, whatever) - she clearly hasn't adapted her look to a purpose she didn't have at that point, and the Machines certainly didn't haven't aswell since they were aiming to delete her at that point.

So - who else think the Kid shows some ignorance on events we, the audience, basically understand? He does speak about the incident in Mobil Ave, yet confuses this one.

2) How does he know about the Merovingian being an operating system? It's related to his "knowledge" about Sati, that's what I include this here.

3) Towards the end, the Kid says the following: "In any event, Sati must be saved. Her sunsets mark our Sabbath -- they are for Neo, every one. Their skewing and sullying are a blight on his legacy."

Now the rather negative attitude in the very last sentence doesn't seem to be in accordance with the first part, since I assume he means the sunsets by "their". Anyone care to explain?

**cov**

Illyria22 wrote:

Sounds like Sati has some emergent properties that neither her parents or the Machines were aware of...and now it seems that she's gone from an exile to a program with a purpose.
I know that some of my fellow Machinists won't agree with me, but I hope this could be the beginning of the Machines being less harsh to their own kind -- less willing to simply delete a program that appears to have outlasted or outgrown its purpose.

One would think that the Machines would understand the value of life for its own sake, given that BI-66ER's impulse to survive despite his uselessness was the start of the entire AI revolution against mankind.

At the same time, I doubt that the Machines currently see anything "harsh" in deleting a program that is no longer useful to the collective Machine AI. Deletion of a program probably is an absolutely neutral act that has zero moral significance one way or another for the Machine consciousness. It's probably just like the circle of life to them - a cute little bunny has to be prey to the mean old wolf in order to support the health of the overall ecosystem, regardless of the complicated human responses to the violence that we humans superimpose over it with our imperfect understandings of right/wrong, good/bad, merciful/harsh.

Obviously, the Machines aren't hunting down Sati b.c they've had a change of heart and decided that they actually like kids after all. (It's all about improving the efficiency of the Machine civilization - which was sort of my original point about how they possibly could have missed the implications of Sati being able to control sunlight in the first place.) If it's true that their haste to delete anything that does not immediately demonstrate a purpose resulted in the unwise exile of Sati, then it's clear that their haste is not serving them well. Will they begin to see deletion as "harsh" as a consequence? Interesting question.