Well, how you'd translate this into the world of the matrix (remembering that it's a place of mind and more about the difference of ideals that physical being)

Anyway, the whole idea of a succubus/incubus is that they're essentially demonic creatures. The Succubus is the female and reveals itself in the form of a beautiful woman to seduce men. They then drain the man in order to sustain their own life. In the game sense, this is shown using the succubus kiss as it drains your life and regenerates the succubus.

For yourself asking about the incubus, their existance is greatly different. They only ever exist in a raw demonic form, they hunt on people who sleep, mainly women but not exclusively. The name itself translates to "I lie on top" and the idea there's some form of demonic intercourse which fascilitates the spawning of more incubus/succubus.

Now, as the incubus haunt those who sleep, you could theorise that they hunt anyone who's unawakened within the matrix. That then gives you the problem as your character would have already been awakened from sleep within the matrix, so wouldn't be of any interest to what would be an incubus within the matrix. That being said, there are always those who give themselves freely to a demonic being, yet even with that being said, the incubus would be a seperate being I believe and wouldn't become one with another.

I dunno, I might read into some of the information I have a bit more again to see if I can find instances of incubus possesion yet I think if it did happen it wouldn't be out of choice of the incubus, as they prefer to be seperate from another. I say that as although there are male and female demonic figures incubus/succubus the key thing to note is that they never mate themselves to continue the spawning of more demonic spirit, the incubus does choose a physical being to create the demonic spirit (as they sneak up on females in their sleep, the theory is that the incubus' evil spirit, plus the fact that he's doing an unholy act in essentially raping the woman, is what creates the new incubus/succubus.

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Thinking about it, as the matrix is a place of the mind, you'd have no physical being. So if you gave yourself to an incubus within the matrix and it came into you, it would be essentially taking over your mind. How that would be played out wouldn't be an easy one, as there would need to be some sort of ritual to bring the incubus to you and give yourself to it, to act as a vessel for its demonic spirit. Yet as he's a spirit, it doesn't need a pysical being, so in the matrix an incubus could exist freely anyway as it's just a place of the mind... yet perhaps something could be figured out.

Now, how this would change your being in the physical world ie outside the matrix is unknown, however I'd think that it would be similar to how smith took over the being within the matrix, the mind controls the body so you'd essentially be a physical being with the demonic mind in control outside the matrix.

*cough* It might be easier to RP this then to RP what the actuall incubus were supposed of doing

In Western medieval legend, an incubus (plural incubi) is a demon in male form supposed to lie upon sleepers, especially women, in order to have "relations" with them. It was believed to do this in order to spawn other incubi. The incubus drains energy from the woman on whom it performs "relations" in order to sustain itself, and some sources indicate that it may be identified by its unnaturally cold "lower region". Religious tradition holds that repeated intercourse with such a spirit by either males or females (the female version of the incubus is called a succubus) may result in the deterioration of health, or even death...

 So yeah...I suppose you could say a Incubus "layed" with your blue pill mother and you were spawned?

That would be the easier way to do it, however from the OP's details, it sounds like the male character is going to be turned into an Incubus, rather than "born" as one, hense the long winded thing that I wrote

True, if you were going to completely change the character back story and just say that he was born as one, it would make things massively easier but that doesn't mean it makes for better storytelling  

That would be the easier way to do it, however from the OP's details, it sounds like the male character is going to be turned into an Incubus, rather than "born" as one, hense the long winded thing that I wrote

True, if you were going to completely change the character back story and just say that he was born as one, it would make things massively easier but that doesn't mean it makes for better storytelling  

Mmm, so far, the guy I'm thinking of turning Exilic has shown no signs of being anything other than a mild-mannered if somewhat flirtatious human guy. I'd almost thought of bringing in some details from the White Court Vampires in the Dresden Files books of Jim Butcher, since they're essentially energy vampires/incubi-succubi and they share a sort of symbiotic relationship with an inner demonic essence. Trouble is, they're born that way, but the demonic symbiote stays dormant until around puberty/adulthood, when the Whampire (Jim Butcher's word, not mine! :: Laughs:: ) has to make their first feeding, which usually kills the person they . . . consort with. Our boy is about thirty-ish, so if he had this sort of symbiote, I think it would have reared its hungry head by now. I'll post more thoughts later: I gotta run to work...

Normally I'd facepalm before even giving into the notion of ever RPing as an exile or a program, going against the "You are a redpill, you watched as you were awakened, etc", as I do believe demons and nightmares and monsters are all programs and such code would never manifest itself within a bluepill, or a redpill. What wikipedia says about what an incubus is or how an incubus becomes an incubus does not always mean that that's how it happens in a digital world such as the Matrix. For example, vampires in the Matrix have a bite attack, but you never become a vampire when they bite you, thus debunking the notion that vampires can turn redpills into other vampires.

It's pretty much part of vampire lore that you have to drink the blood of a vampire to be turned vampiric, and I think that's what would have happened in the "Nightfall" event back in the Monolith era of MxO, when Invalesco promised to turn the Redpills that helped him in his uprising against the Merv.



"The question is, how would this happen? It's easy to explain a Redpill becoming vampiric or lycanthropic by being infected with a virus that triggers vampiric behavior/installs vampiric coding into their mind. But from what I can tell, succubuses and incubi (if they exist...) seem to be born/coded that way. Any thoughts?"

I would normally just say "RP any way you want" however, since you asked, here is the opinion of someone who is a big Matrix lore fan: I do not think that children of redpills are born with plugs (that makes absolutely no sense) and thus could not jack into the Matrix as an incubus because his mother was raped by an incubus program (which is just full of stupid in itself).

Bolding mine. :: Raises an eyebrow:: Err, I think you're referring to freeborn, but that wasn't what I meant.  

That leaves being "infected" by an "incubus program's virus" OR "I'm just an incubus program, 'sup."

Not saying I particularly agree with either roleplay, but like I said, "RP how you want".

ThePigeonKing wrote:

That leaves being "infected" by an "incubus program's virus" OR "I'm just an incubus program, 'sup."

Not saying I particularly agree with either roleplay, but like I said, "RP how you want".

That made me LOL.

I was just browsing this thread and had a thought .. not that anyone cares, but, an RSI is the *mental projection* of your digital self. So any change made between the real and the Matrix to your RSI is really done in your own mind. So perhaps you believe that you're an incubus in the real, and then jack into the Matrix .. would that make you an incubus in the Matrix too? Since Neo could change the play with the rules of the simulation, maybe someone else who jacked in with a strong mental projection of an incubus or whatever could alter the Matrix in such a way that he could affect other people as such. 

/as

That's an interesting thought, but the problem is, there was a god-moding vampire player on Recursion who inSISted she was a vampire in the Real, and as yet, we've got nothing canonic to support that. I suspect that person had either watched "Underworld" too many times or played World of Darkness's "Vampire: The Masquerade" for too long.

He could have been a horrible lead singer in a new age hippy rock band who got some bad code an operative named Privaront gave him out of spite for making horrible music.

Perhaps some event could happen in his life that leads him into these strange, and violent, sexual conquests. Through his pursuit for sadistic satisfaction, he comes across some sort of vampyric being. Bla bla bla, kiss of death, sadistic urges only grow heavier, and more violent, through this transformation between human and vampire.

EDIT: =O I should check dates more often.

Quote from Wikipedia:

"There are also numerous stories involving the attempted exorcism of incubi or succubi who have taken refuge in, respectively, the bodies of men or women."

Whilst I appreciate that it cites no authority for this claim (that they could simply possess a Redpill), in light of any suggestion to the contrary, it seems suitably plausible... for the purpose of an RP.