[9.2.1] "She was a hacker, he was a telekinetic" - Recursion - 1/11/08

**Avalod**

Reeverb wrote:

Yes.
Yes.
Yes...
yes
Yes.
YES!
True.
Yes.
Aye.
Affirmative.
Yes.
yes
Positive.
Yes.
True.
Yes.

Yes.

Can I ask.. What the hell was all those agreements for? It cant be agreeing to each reply to this topic before you.. can it?

Phrack

Avalod wrote:

Reeverb wrote:
Yes.
Yes.
Yes...
yes
Yes.
YES!
True.
Yes.
Aye.
Affirmative.
Yes.
yes
Positive.
Yes.
True.
Yes.

Yes.
Can I ask.. What the hell was all those agreements for? It cant be agreeing to each reply to this topic before you.. can it?

No, he's pointing out the unnecessary reply of "Yes" by EVERYONE in the meeting to several of the Intruder's questions, resulting in spammed area chat.

**Sphairo**

So the intruder isn't a program, but still takes on the appearance of something alien to us? Hm..

Phrack

Sphairo wrote:

So the intruder isn't a program, but still takes on the appearance of something alien to us? Hm..

I thought it was apparent that the Intruder wasn't a program since the brief show of his Real World form watching the deal between Neo and Dues on the monitors.

No, this thing is a redpill of some kind... the question is his origin.

I remember during the time of the Novalis II, the old LET made mention of how there were theories that the Machines had been experimenting with the human genome when growing new humans. I'm wondering if that has anything to do with this guy, or could be related at all. It could explain his... abilities.

**Illyria22**

I was able to read a full transcript of this encounter with both the Intruder and the Morpheus sim, and I have one thing to say:

"Um, Zion? Don't you remember that the Morpheus sim sold you out to the Machines? That he gave them the information they needed to lock your veteran operatives' signals, so they could be killed inside the Matrix? Why are most of you bowing and scraping and acting like this person is your best friend?"

Illyria

PS: And why are you telling the Intruder everything he wants to know? Just because he doesn't like the Machines, that doesn't automatically make him your friend. Anome didn't like the Machines either, and neither did the General...

**odj**

His reply to my one question was worrying.

"Some men arnt looking for anything logical, they cant be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just wana watch the world burn."

**AltDimension**

Vinia wrote:

At least some of you realised he was just pumping you for information. The rest of you were happy to present him with whatever he seemed to want. I have to wonder why? In fact I can guess why but it looks like he has no interest in helping you or anyone except himself. So please keep on furnishing him with information, it seems that some of you don't care what his real intentions are and how they could effect everyone inside or outside the simulation. You'd really kick yourselves if your 'help' came back to bite....

LOL Vinia. Do you honestly expect everyone to just stay slient infront of the intruder while he asks questions?!?!?
[/sarcasm] That would have made the event even more fun than it already was [scarcasm]

**Fen** · 01/15/2008 08:16:39

What a disgusting, shameful display. I am ashamed to stand with many of you as a Zionite. Especially you, PS10N, as you groveled at the Morpheus Sim's feet. I had a lot of respect for you, but now most of that is out the window. This Sim was the cause of many of Zion's most experienced operatives' deaths!

Jesus H Christ, I'm agreeing with Illyria here! We lost a lot of good people because of that bastard... we fought tooth and nail to get some of those folks out, most of which were unsuccessful! This guy traded OUR lives so that he could chat it up with Cryptos!

HE IS NOT MORPHEUS!!! He is a disgusting display of a once great man! And don't even get me started on the real Morpheus, who was responsible for the deaths of many innocent bluepills who drowned in their pods due to his code bombing spree.

As far as the Intruder goes, you all just blabbed and blabbed to him about whatever he wanted. God *CENSORED*, people! Haven't you learned ANYTHING in the two and a half years most of us have been awakened? Haven't you learned anything from your dealings with the Merovingian? "I have something you want, you must have something *I* want."

Think before you all start opening your traps for once!

EDIT: ((Just to stop any potential Recursion drama that may arise from the above post... I am completely IC. OOC, mad love to PS10N.))

**GQubed**

It is amusing that of all the questions and answers thrown around, only a few of you actually caught onto the important stuff. Unfortunately those that did have good questions were drowned out by all the people that think by asking the right question they will earn a perpetual item.

I am not going to offer help to Zion, please keep up the.... work you are doing, thanks to transcripts such as this some of us will be able to pull out the truths from that rabble of nonsense.

Pyraci

I have to side with Fen here.

We learned a valuable lesson with the General in that we can't open ourselves up to someone that stands to gain more form us than we do of him, without having good reason or incentive to do so. We have to stop opening ourselves up like this. The man's been at our systems for crying out loud! We can't just give this guy information without knowledge of what he's going to do with it.

I agree with Fen on this Morpheus sim business as well. We have to look out for our own, and he obviously is more interested in getting his own "information" than helping us. As I've said before, I actually think this sim goes back to the days of the bombings, in part because the General showed on the scene at the same time, but there's still no reason to give ourselves away to people "disguised" or coded as our friends.

-Collbard-

((Wow, if I were at an event like this (I've never been in any Live Event...ever) I would cry. The rediculous spam and accusations...I guess its to be expected. and what is with all the movie/popular quotes? I saw, "He saved us. He saved them. He saved the matrix." like three times, and they were mostly random and not related to what The Intruder said.))

So thats what he's after.

**Shinryu**

-Collbard- wrote:

((Wow, if I were at an event like this (I've never been in any Live Event...ever) I would cry. The rediculous spam and accusations...I guess its to be expected. and what is with all the movie/popular quotes? I saw, "He saved us. He saved them. He saved the matrix." like three times, and they were mostly random and not related to what The Intruder said.))
So thats what he's after.

(( Not to mention the fact that much of that information/quotes/etc. could be seen as something most/all of us wouldn't even know IC anyway as we weren't there when it was done/said. But since the Intruder was basically prompting all of that, I guess it can't really be avoided in this case. ))

Quite right, Collbard. It may not exactly be clear quite yet, but it is making a little more sense at the least.

**Procurator**

Eh-heheheh, idiots. That is all.

(( I'm getting annoyed at how half the transcript is lost because Rarebit won't use all the screenshots (or doesn't take enough or whatever). I know most of the stuff is spam and distilled stupidity in text form (hoorah for elitism!), but there was some important stuff from the Intruder that got lost. Thanks to Psion for pointing it out.

I reckon the text log should be posted as well, or linked to somewhere. For one thing it'll ensure nothing gets lost, and for another, we can actually search for phrases! It's hard to back up arguments when most of the evidence is text within large images. ))

Croesis · 01/15/2008 09:36:36

AltDimension wrote:

Vinia wrote:
At least some of you realised he was just pumping you for information. The rest of you were happy to present him with whatever he seemed to want. I have to wonder why? In fact I can guess why but it looks like he has no interest in helping you or anyone except himself. So please keep on furnishing him with information, it seems that some of you don't care what his real intentions are and how they could effect everyone inside or outside the simulation. You'd really kick yourselves if your 'help' came back to bite....
LOL Vinia. Do you honestly expect everyone to just stay slient infront of the intruder while he asks questions?!?!?
[/sarcasm] That would have made the event even more fun than it already was [scarcasm]

Heh, why not? What would he do? Decide to kill you all for your impudence? Just leave giving no answers? Would you have any more info than what you have now? I'm sure it's not beyond Zion's capability of appointing one person to speak for everyone, but even those who became aware of what was happening were ignored by those who bowed down to the intruder...

For me, a short meeting where no answers were given which would have confused the intruder or even annoyed him to the point of him possibly giving information away, would be a lot more interesting then a bunch of Zionites clamouring to be the one to give him that one little piece of info that he 'wants'. But hey... that's just me...

((Yeah, thankyou PS10N for the intruder transcript))

**GoDGiVeR**

((It's an Event, most people just want to play along. And that's the unfortunate thing. Most LEs do not make us think of our own. I for my part, was silent during the whole convo because I knew that anything I would have said, would have not changed the outcome of the LE, simply for the reason of area spammage (no self-dicipline in posting) and ignoring of serious posts.

If that had been a Mech event, I don't doubt that there would have been less spammage (unfortunately that's the truth) and more consideration towards when to post what. Nonetheless most people still would have tagged along with it.))

That's why I hate mobs. Useless questions, uniform answers, predictable outcome. If he really wanted information, he would have arranged a more private conversation. But on the other hand, that just shows that the mob is easily manipulated and those who see that can't do a thing against it.

-DD