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Sphairo wrote:

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Usually you have to back up claims with facts but... hey what do i know. If you say it's true then it must be...

When it comes to jumpers, L2ROOT.

That is all.

Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.

Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.
This part is true, zion do tend to only flag up if they have a large group helping them out.. when the tide turns, they give up. There's only a handfull who are the opposite, but most have converted to either machine or merovingian!

Hunting is fun Marias. It's one of the reasons i prefer the vector atmosphere because you cannot be an *CENSORED* and then hide. Your actions however minuscule you think they are weight in on peoples opinions of you and because your pvp hot all the time this can adversely affect your game time.
What are you talking about? You can easily kill someone then either go into the loading area/jump hardlines and districts and/or go into sneak. 

As for jumpers some people will jump, some won't I don't think it's a server thing but an individual thing. The formula is pretty funny though. I was on the QA server and although my memory isn't the greatest i don't recall anyone owning anything. The server war didn't materialize how most wanted as some wouldn't flip orgs how it was discussed. So while there was some people who joined server factions there were many who didn't.
It's more so a server wide thing, in my experiance FAR more players on vector have jumped and ran than on Syntax.  Yes, Syntax dealt there fair share of carnage on QA, as did the other servers, and some individuals who decided to stick with their org, but this was ONLY a few.

Vector you can evaluate prior fights and tweak loads just as well as any server. While your correct that staying alive is important on vector which is why most Coder loadouts or task orientated load outs have to have a level of survivability to them. For example my Coder loadout has Master Shadow in it. In the end this just adds to the experience and goes back to that important thing i mentioned before.... how people perceive you and how you are perceived. Granted some will gun for you all the time, others aren't so barbaric about it. And if someone does get you while coding well it just gives you someone to hunt now or at least someone you won't be so nice to down the road. Karma so to speak.
Just because your on a hostile server does not mean you need to have MASTER SHADOW in your load. Think you need to PVP a little more and learn the ropes. ^.^

PVP on PVE servers is like an event. You get ready for it and go to it. PVP on vector is a lifestyle, it can happen anytime. Thats one reason why I prefer vector.
Wrong.  You should spend a little bit more time on Syntax (alot more, in fact) before you go making those kind of assumptions. PVP on Syntax happens ANY time, all you need is one to flag, then more join in.. before you know it, there's an entire war going on. Vector consists of lots of mini-spontaneous fights that don't really last that long.

Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:

Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.
This part is true, zion do tend to only flag up if they have a large group helping them out.. when the tide turns, they give up. There's only a handfull who are the opposite, but most have converted to either machine or merovingian!
No arguement there. I'm still not going to the server. If i want to play on a PVE server i'll play my 50 thats on Recursion.

Hunting is fun Marias. It's one of the reasons i prefer the vector atmosphere because you cannot be an *CENSORED* and then hide. Your actions however minuscule you think they are weight in on peoples opinions of you and because your pvp hot all the time this can adversely affect your game time.
What are you talking about? You can easily kill someone then either go into the loading area/jump hardlines and districts and/or go into sneak. 
You can still be found. If not today then tomorow. Half my buddy list is people i want to kill. I login and see that they are online and then decide if i want to hunt them. Chances of me ever doing that on a PVE are greatly diminished. Even you would have to agree on that.

As for jumpers some people will jump, some won't I don't think it's a server thing but an individual thing. The formula is pretty funny though. I was on the QA server and although my memory isn't the greatest i don't recall anyone owning anything. The server war didn't materialize how most wanted as some wouldn't flip orgs how it was discussed. So while there was some people who joined server factions there were many who didn't.
It's more so a server wide thing, in my experiance FAR more players on vector have jumped and ran than on Syntax.  Yes, Syntax dealt there fair share of carnage on QA, as did the other servers, and some individuals who decided to stick with their org, but this was ONLY a few.
Alright that is your opinion. I won't argue with any of that as it won't get us anywhere.

Vector you can evaluate prior fights and tweak loads just as well as any server. While your correct that staying alive is important on vector which is why most Coder loadouts or task orientated load outs have to have a level of survivability to them. For example my Coder loadout has Master Shadow in it. In the end this just adds to the experience and goes back to that important thing i mentioned before.... how people perceive you and how you are perceived. Granted some will gun for you all the time, others aren't so barbaric about it. And if someone does get you while coding well it just gives you someone to hunt now or at least someone you won't be so nice to down the road. Karma so to speak.
Just because your on a hostile server does not mean you need to have MASTER SHADOW in your load. Think you need to PVP a little more and learn the ropes. ^.^
I have been playing the game since launch. I know the ropes. I said my CODER loadout has MASTER SHADOW. Perhaps you should read before you make an idiotic statement. It's the easiest loadout you can do to stay safe till you can upload your coded items should the *poop* hit the fan. When i'm coding i'm not attempting to PVP btw. Granted you don't have to have master shadow but i do and i have yet to die coding with it loaded.


PVP on PVE servers is like an event. You get ready for it and go to it. PVP on vector is a lifestyle, it can happen anytime. Thats one reason why I prefer vector.
Wrong.  You should spend a little bit more time on Syntax (alot more, in fact) before you go making those kind of assumptions. PVP on Syntax happens ANY time, all you need is one to flag, then more join in.. before you know it, there's an entire war going on. Vector consists of lots of mini-spontaneous fights that don't really last that long.
I'm not spending another second on Syntax. The server just isn't for me and as mentioned above if i want a PVE atmosphere i'll play my 50 on recursion. Anytime and all you need is one to flag is not really anytime. I flagged, get gunned down and wait till the other persons flag turns off. Where is the pvp there? You even admit it in point one above that zion will only flag if they have a large group. For now i'll stay on Vector-hostile where i don't have to put up with Blue attacks, rezzes, buffs and the like.

Well, though I am not yet 50 on vector (level 40, sshhhooo excited XD) I can say that it is definitely more exhilirating and entertaining to come across random reds and just start goin' at it, especially to break up the monotony of missions.  I also find it enjoyable to hunt people down every now and then.  I'll attack people 10 levels higher simply for the fun of it knowing I'm gonna die...

However, when it comes to Vector it seems you kill one person the reaction is always so...bleh.  Either you get flack for killing someone, get ganked by the entire faction afterwards or end up chasing someone all over until they hardline...

As for Syntax, personally, no offense to spha or anything.  I'm just sick of the pvp there, no offense to my home server but something about flagging then being ganked by 6 MKT has just lost it's appeal.  Yet I keep grindin' away hoping some more people will join in and...yeah, i might get one or two of mine or another org to flag.  Besides that the pvp is ONLY at mara despite my efforts to spread pvp out by running around the whole city flagged.  Either that or you can go kill people in 01 and run into the downsides of pvp you get on vector all over again.  Also, like hanzyl mentioned the attacks from the blue...well not only is it unrealistic it's just more fun to be able to have a more active role in not getting pwnt by a sniper or MKT you can clearly see is going to attack you...

For the finer points of Syntax pvp, I've run into some of the best pvp'ers I think I'll ever meet there (I don't mean to start controversy but I do believe a decent amount of the heavy hitters on or that have had 50's on Vector call Syntax home).  Also, you gotta check out the massive pvp we used to have such as the 01 wars or back in the days of the Authority...now THAT was some epic pvp...

Call me bias either way but those are my thoughts laid out in detail...