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Give The Wachowskis another 10 years and they'll bring the matrix back with a trilogy of prequels or something. Would be awesome! And I believe their next movie is going to be a live action Speed Racer. Go Speed Racer, Go!!!


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Perhaps the very reason novelizations have not been created is because all of that story information is to be gradually told in MXO. 

Maybe they plan to reveal much of what we yearn to know over the course of the game. 




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This is true Garu. I hope to learn more about Sati in the upcoming year.



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good point



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MetaLogic wrote:
Remag_Div wrote:
What, you don't think they care about the franchise that made them famous and rich? SMILEY


No, but comon they can only live on The Matrix franchise for so long, they moved on to other stuff. 
Its a shame but I have to agree.



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Abigor666 wrote:
MetaLogic wrote:
Remag_Div wrote:
What, you don't think they care about the franchise that made them famous and rich? SMILEY


No, but comon they can only live on The Matrix franchise for so long, they moved on to other stuff. 
Its a shame but I have to agree.
There's an equally justified assumption that whatever plans they had for this game's storyline still haven't occured here yet (wait, I think that's more than an assumption), or even hasn't been written by Chadwick yet.

He might aswell still discuss further development with him regularly.

We know they were pretty vocal when the game was in development and their influence on the "first year"'s outline was high. Now, was that just a beginning of their cooperation with Chadwick, which they wanted to continue? Or did they scrap their plans because the game didn't turn out as they had imagined?
Or did they just want to have their plans released in the "first year", and actually pass their franchise over to other writers from that on?

Really, I can't know, and you can't aswell, until we hear any official statement about that. In a live interview during that SOE block party (around 5.2), Chadwick said "The Wachowskis don't kill of characters to bring them back right away".
Now, with all the ambiguousity of this sentence, the present time he used, in fact, makes the impression that they haven't ceased contact with this game, or its storyline at least.

But seriously, we don't know.


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Remag_Div wrote:
We know that the storytelling of the Matrix is meant to be portrayed in many different formats, but one area the franchise is lacking in is reading material.

Sure, we have the philisophical books (but how many do we really need?) and the "Art of" books, but I mean actual story telling novels, similar to the Extended Universe that Star Wars has and it's very successful line of novels.

The Wachowski's could hire multiple talented sci-fi writers to write a series of novels based on and off the Matrix universe. Some examples?
  • The previous iterations of the Matrix
  • The previous six Ones
  • The origins of Seraph
  • The origins of the Exiles (particulary the Merovingian)
  • Childhood stories of our favorite characters
  • Novels past MxO ??
There's so much untapped storytelling that the Matix provides, and with novels, it leaves it up to the reader's imagination.
As they say in the biz, the story is to be sold not told.  Open your eyes, they're all over the place.




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According to Lucas, he revised IV-VI because that's how he always wanted it to be back then but couldn't pull it off at that time, and I think also to make them equal to the new movies.
And he wouldn't have called the original movies IV-VI if not out of intention to make I-III.

Really, I find it unfair to say that he just wanted to make profit out of the old trilogy by making the new one. Doesn't really make sense aswell.

Maybe the Wachowskis have really moved on - but who says completely away from the Matrix? PoN was released not such an awful long time ago (about one year isn't much), and there is no reason to assume that their active involvement in MxO that was obvious from several interviews with themselves and Paul Chadwick has disappeared, until someone definitely states it.

Well of course he's going to say that. He's not going to turn around and say "Yeah, I made them because I wanted to milk the fanboys even more" is he? O.o

I just do not buy that line, because:
a) In my humble, non-star-wars-fan opinion, the new three films came nowhere close to the atmosphere and general 'feeling' of the first ones
b) JarJar Binks. Please, don't try and tell me that he thought that was a great idea and wanted him in from the start. If ever there was a ploy to pull in the kids, JarJar was it. (Yeah maybe C3P0 and R2D2 were supposed to do that in the original films, but they managed to come across a hell of a lot better)

Path of Neo may have come out only a year ago, but the start of its development - and given the type of game it was (i.e. linear and single player) the 'storyline' was set down at the beginning I'd imagine - was quite some time before that.
 

[EDIT]

 I read that wrong.

I can understand the remastering, because why not spit-shine the first films if you can? Makes sense to me, because it allows you to see what are three good films brought slightly more up to date.

And whilst he may have always planned to write three episodes more (the prequels) they were IMO sub-par to the originals in terms of script writing and characterisation (maybe that was just the actors, but Haydn whatsisface was a shite Anakin/Vadar) and seemed too 'special effects over content'


Message edited by [CoZ]LostProphet on 01/25/2007 01:26:11.


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[CoZ wrote:
LostProphet]zeroone506 wrote:
According to Lucas, he revised IV-VI because that's how he always wanted it to be back then but couldn't pull it off at that time, and I think also to make them equal to the new movies.
And he wouldn't have called the original movies IV-VI if not out of intention to make I-III.

Really, I find it unfair to say that he just wanted to make profit out of the old trilogy by making the new one. Doesn't really make sense aswell.

Maybe the Wachowskis have really moved on - but who says completely away from the Matrix? PoN was released not such an awful long time ago (about one year isn't much), and there is no reason to assume that their active involvement in MxO that was obvious from several interviews with themselves and Paul Chadwick has disappeared, until someone definitely states it.

Well of course he's going to say that. He's not going to turn around and say "Yeah, I made them because I wanted to milk the fanboys even more" is he? O.o

Of course, I don't know what was in his mind and in the end, make nothing more but conclusions. Of course, he wouldn't say that if money were his aim, but why shouldn't he say it if it weren't?

I just do not buy that line, because:
a) In my humble, non-star-wars-fan opinion, the new three films came nowhere close to the atmosphere and general 'feeling' of the first ones

Why's that a factor? Maybe he lacked inspiration because he was all Mr. Krabs, or maybe because he just didn't make it.
I don't really agree with your opinion in relation to both trilogies (except maybe acting and characters), but that's another topic.


b) JarJar Binks. Please, don't try and tell me that he thought that was a great idea and wanted him in from the start. If ever there was a ploy to pull in the kids, JarJar was it. (Yeah maybe C3P0 and R2D2 were supposed to do that in the original films, but they managed to come across a hell of a lot better)

Maybe he wanted. The Ewoks in VI were also quite ludicrous.

Maybe it was a ploy to pull money out of the kids' pockets, maybe he wanted something kids would like in his movies, maybe he just liked it himself. I personally don't wanna decide for any variant except that I liked Jar Jar as a kid SMILEY

Path of Neo may have come out only a year ago, but the start of its development - and given the type of game it was (i.e. linear and single player) the 'storyline' was set down at the beginning I'd imagine - was quite some time before that.
 
Sounds fair. But then again, there was the mystery email from Chad...

[EDIT]

 I read that wrong.

I can understand the remastering, because why not spit-shine the first films if you can? Makes sense to me, because it allows you to see what are three good films brought slightly more up to date.

And whilst he may have always planned to write three episodes more (the prequels) they were IMO sub-par to the originals in terms of script writing and characterisation (maybe that was just the actors, but Haydn whatsisface was a shite Anakin/Vadar) and seemed too 'special effects over content'

I actually liked Hayden in Episode III very much, maybe more than the other main actors. In Episode II, he sometimes was inconvincing. *shrug*

Also, according to himself, Lucas is a "visual storyteller" (at least that's what he's saying in the commenataries to the new movies), and from that standpoint, I'd hesitate to label a movie with such a high focus on action and effects as negative. But that's arguable.

Don't you think it's possible that V and VI only saw the light of the day because Lucas wanted to milk out the unexpectedly huge success IV brought him?
I personally don't think so, but IV really made the most "independent" and odd-man-out impression on me because of its fairytale-esque character constellation and retro feel.
 
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