Lvl 255 agents -_-

**SolidRevolver**

Zudrag wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Zerotolerance wrote:
When did Trinity kill an Agent? I remember her getting her rear handed to her. To this date, the only ones who have killed an actual Agent (to my knowledge) are as follows. Then again, not all cases have been shown -- some of them merely mentioned -- whereas in most cases the Agent wasn't exactly killed -- only redirected to another host.
- Neo.
- Seraph had apparently defeated Agent Smith once before.
- Morpheus temporarily killed an Agent via a "sneak attack."
- Niobe killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via dropping him from a cargo-plane.
- Ghost killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via electrocution.
- The Assassin killed Agent Skinner.
- Smith killed Agent Johnson via infection.
- Morpheus' Legacy, JoKeRz, and several other factions have killed 255's via sploits. Hehe.
...Seriously?

Famous quote?

"Dodge this".... does that not ring a bell? /slapslap

Yes, but that Agent just happened to have taken a nap at the same time he got shot. In the face.

On a serious note, a group of about 6-10 people can indeed take out an Agent, if they 1)Know what they're doing, and 2)Have the patience to kill it.

As Swimming said, it isn't about being able to kill them, it is about being able to stand up against them a little longer.

Siepher

Zerotolerance wrote:

When did Trinity kill an Agent? I remember her getting her rear handed to her. To this date, the only ones who have killed an actual Agent (to my knowledge) are as follows. Then again, not all cases have been shown -- some of them merely mentioned -- whereas in most cases the Agent wasn't exactly killed -- only redirected to another host.
- Neo.
- Seraph had apparently defeated Agent Smith once before.
- Morpheus temporarily killed an Agent via a "sneak attack."
- Niobe killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via dropping him from a cargo-plane.
- Ghost killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via electrocution.
- The Assassin killed Agent Skinner.
- Smith killed Agent Johnson via infection.
- Morpheus' Legacy, JoKeRz, and several other factions have killed 255's via sploits. Hehe.

Tried that too, lol.

**MxO-Insertion**

Really, this is something many of us players have been pleading to have changed since Beta. Its something that cripples the franchise of the Matrix, IMO. How many times are newer players turned off from Agent Experiences after the 2nd kill? "What? He killed me in one hit! I wanted to interlock him and I couldn't even do that!"

For level 50's.. we never get spawned on and when it happens, we only last about 10 seconds -- if we're lucky...

For being here as long as we have, we should be able to get a team of five 50's and do significant damage -- while still all dying, even.

**Zerotolerance**

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

Zerotolerance wrote:
When did Trinity kill an Agent? I remember her getting her rear handed to her. To this date, the only ones who have killed an actual Agent (to my knowledge) are as follows. Then again, not all cases have been shown -- some of them merely mentioned -- whereas in most cases the Agent wasn't exactly killed -- only redirected to another host.
- Neo.
- Seraph had apparently defeated Agent Smith once before.
- Morpheus temporarily killed an Agent via a "sneak attack."
- Niobe killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via dropping him from a cargo-plane.
- Ghost killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via electrocution.
- The Assassin killed Agent Skinner.
- Smith killed Agent Johnson via infection.
- Morpheus' Legacy, JoKeRz, and several other factions have killed 255's via sploits. Hehe.
...Seriously?

Famous quote?

"Dodge this".... does that not ring a bell? /slapslap

Oops. I'm a *CENSORED*, Zippy. So we'll put her into the same category as Ghost, Niobe, and Morpheus... She disabled an Agent, forcing him into another host. But the list of those who have actually destroyed an Agent is a lot shorter.

- Neo.
- The Assassin.
- Smith.

Am I missing any there?

**Zerotolerance**

MxO-Insertion wrote:

Really, this is something many of us players have been pleading to have changed since Beta. Its something that cripples the franchise of the Matrix, IMO. How many times are newer players turned off from Agent Experiences after the 2nd kill? "What? He killed me in one hit! I wanted to interlock him and I couldn't even do that!"

For level 50's.. we never get spawned on and when it happens, we only last about 10 seconds -- if we're lucky...

For being here as long as we have, we should be able to get a team of five 50's and do significant damage -- while still all dying, even.

Not to mention:
Level 100 Anome > Level 255 Agents.

How did we have a problem with the Unlimits for so long? All they needed to do was send a few of those 255's his way. It makes all the sense in the world to put them equal to Gray -- at 60. Not everyone can solo the Taskmaster and not everyone *wants* to, but that would be what you'd end up doing if you had to fight an Agent who was level 60 and you happened to be alone. Or how about 65? Anything besides 255.

**MxO-Insertion**

I think something like this would be enjoyed by a supreme majority of the community.. its one of those topics that I wish the Dev team would really open up to the community for direct feedback, via a poll on the forums.

Rare has said something on the lines that the reason they are level 255 is because Agents are used to push people out of missions -- that they're not a reason to keep players in mission areas after they've expired...

Well, that really sucks because Agents aren't only sent to get rid of people in mission areas, but in restricted areas as well. Now, if what he's said in the past holds true about all Agent interaction, then is he saying that he doesn't want players in restricted areas until they have the node? If so, then I'm guessing I can only stick to about 2 neighborhoods in westview, then. SMILEY

Regardless.. a level 65/70 Agent would still kill us in pretty much a minute...

Taking on the Taskmaster is hard enough, but taking on an Agent 5 levels or so higher with an FM-1500 would be *CENSORED* well harder than some robot.

Argh.. This topic gets me annoyed, mainly because Agents were such an attraction to the game and we never come across them -- and the truce has nothing to do with it, seeing as going to restricted areas is against truce terms. -_-

**SolidRevolver**

Zerotolerance wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Zerotolerance wrote:
When did Trinity kill an Agent? I remember her getting her rear handed to her. To this date, the only ones who have killed an actual Agent (to my knowledge) are as follows. Then again, not all cases have been shown -- some of them merely mentioned -- whereas in most cases the Agent wasn't exactly killed -- only redirected to another host.
- Neo.
- Seraph had apparently defeated Agent Smith once before.
- Morpheus temporarily killed an Agent via a "sneak attack."
- Niobe killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via dropping him from a cargo-plane.
- Ghost killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via electrocution.
- The Assassin killed Agent Skinner.
- Smith killed Agent Johnson via infection.
- Morpheus' Legacy, JoKeRz, and several other factions have killed 255's via sploits. Hehe.
...Seriously?

Famous quote?

"Dodge this".... does that not ring a bell? /slapslap

Oops. I'm a *CENSORED*, Zippy. So we'll put her into the same category as Ghost, Niobe, and Morpheus... She disabled an Agent, forcing him into another host. But the list of those who have actually destroyed an Agent is a lot shorter.
- Neo.
- The Assassin.
- ~~Smith~~.
Am I missing any there?

Smith never destroyed an Agent did he? He just took over all the hosts and left them with nothing SMILEY

**Darkhorse**

Smith will return to the matrix in the near future

The Leo

Stick on topic!
Anyway it would be nice to see any of the devs replying for a change ^^
I ain't giving up my hopes. After all you could "defeat" agents in ETM and PON (before neo got uber I mean)

**SolidRevolver**

The Leo wrote:

Stick on topic!
Anyway it would be nice to see any of the devs replying for a change ^^
I ain't giving up my hopes. After all you could "defeat" agents in ETM and PON (before neo got uber I mean)

Yeah, with a granade launcher, if you just faught them normally they had infinate health and could dodge normal bullets, but yes back on topic.

Rarebit has said lowing the levels would be an encouragement to fight them, and they are there to get you out, if a level 60 Agent appears you will call up your team to attack him, if a level 255 Agent pops up, you wet your pants and run. SMILEY

Skill · 05/16/2007 22:57:12

SolidRevolver wrote:

The Leo wrote:

Stick on topic!
Anyway it would be nice to see any of the devs replying for a change ^^
I ain't giving up my hopes. After all you could "defeat" agents in ETM and PON (before neo got uber I mean)

Yeah, with a granade launcher, if you just faught them normally they had infinate health and could dodge normal bullets, but yes back on topic.
Should i make a vid of me killing every agent i come across in that game?

Rarebit has said lowing the levels would be an encouragement to fight them, and they are there to get you out, if a level 60 Agent appears you will call up your team to attack him, if a level 255 Agent pops up, you wet your pants and run.
That's a part of why I don't like it. If they need to expel someone all they have to do is expel them, you don't need 255 agent for that.

I hate it when they use storyline related stuff mechanically, it ruins it. For example, the white rooms. They should be used for storyline purposes, at least a little bit. You should NEVER run into an agent unless you've actually done something wrong. If staying a little too long after that meeting with Niobe counts, it doesn't make any sense. Not to mention they must be blind to everyone but their target, you could see them run right past the Kid without taking a second look.

Make them level 70(NPC and LET), like the ones in the event yesterday. In reality, it makes a lot more sense than Niobe, Cryptos, Morpheus and the Kid all being the same level as an agent, that implies a 50/50 chance.

The Leo

SolidRevolver wrote:

The Leo wrote:

Stick on topic!
Anyway it would be nice to see any of the devs replying for a change ^^
I ain't giving up my hopes. After all you could "defeat" agents in ETM and PON (before neo got uber I mean)

Yeah, with a granade launcher, if you just faught them normally they had infinate health and could dodge normal bullets, but yes back on topic.
Rarebit has said lowing the levels would be an encouragement to fight them, and they are there to get you out, if a level 60 Agent appears you will call up your team to attack him, if a level 255 Agent pops up, you wet your pants and run.

I said defeat not kill... omg

**jl10899**

The Leo wrote:

SolidRevolver wrote:
The Leo wrote:

Stick on topic!
Anyway it would be nice to see any of the devs replying for a change ^^
I ain't giving up my hopes. After all you could "defeat" agents in ETM and PON (before neo got uber I mean)

Yeah, with a granade launcher, if you just faught them normally they had infinate health and could dodge normal bullets, but yes back on topic.
Rarebit has said lowing the levels would be an encouragement to fight them, and they are there to get you out, if a level 60 Agent appears you will call up your team to attack him, if a level 255 Agent pops up, you wet your pants and run.
I said defeat not kill... omg

*CENSORED* is the difference in defeating and killing an agent, if you beat one, two more just pop up.

**Denary**

SolidRevolver wrote:

Zerotolerance wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Zerotolerance wrote:
When did Trinity kill an Agent? I remember her getting her rear handed to her. To this date, the only ones who have killed an actual Agent (to my knowledge) are as follows. Then again, not all cases have been shown -- some of them merely mentioned -- whereas in most cases the Agent wasn't exactly killed -- only redirected to another host.
- Neo.
- Seraph had apparently defeated Agent Smith once before.
- Morpheus temporarily killed an Agent via a "sneak attack."
- Niobe killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via dropping him from a cargo-plane.
- Ghost killed an Agent in Enter the Matrix via electrocution.
- The Assassin killed Agent Skinner.
- Smith killed Agent Johnson via infection.
- Morpheus' Legacy, JoKeRz, and several other factions have killed 255's via sploits. Hehe.
...Seriously?

Famous quote?

"Dodge this".... does that not ring a bell? /slapslap

Oops. I'm a *CENSORED*, Zippy. So we'll put her into the same category as Ghost, Niobe, and Morpheus... She disabled an Agent, forcing him into another host. But the list of those who have actually destroyed an Agent is a lot shorter.
- Neo.
- The Assassin.
- ~~Smith~~.
Am I missing any there?

Smith never destroyed an Agent did he? He just took over all the hosts and left them with nothing

Correct, only Neo had the Kill code within him powerful enough to actually kill an agent, Smith only took em over which is why we still have the Oracle and Sati ect.

**Denary**

SolidRevolver wrote:

The Leo wrote:

Stick on topic!
Anyway it would be nice to see any of the devs replying for a change ^^
I ain't giving up my hopes. After all you could "defeat" agents in ETM and PON (before neo got uber I mean)

Yeah, with a granade launcher, if you just faught them normally they had infinate health and could dodge normal bullets, but yes back on topic.
Rarebit has said lowing the levels would be an encouragement to fight them, and they are there to get you out, if a level 60 Agent appears you will call up your team to attack him, if a level 255 Agent pops up, you wet your pants and run.

In PON you could defeat an agent Hand to Hand without being the one, on the roof of the Gov building you just needed to either boot him over the edge of a building or kick him into a fire extinguisher. Also you could fight hand to hand with the agent in the sewers although he just kept reappearing, I defeated him 10 times before I could escape. In ETM you could kick em off heights, I remember getting the agent in the mission where you have to run over the buildings to get to the hardline there was a gap in which the agent couldn't drop, I used to kick him over the edge and watch him fall.

In any case Rarebit said that this game wasn't meant to be all "canon" so the chances of you actually getting agents that you can stand upto for a while is virtually non.