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[7.2.5] The Cypherite controller and I came to a friendly agreement - Recursion - 5/17/07
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Systemic Anomaly

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(( *Laughs.* That's a point. We should be getting in trouble over that. ))



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It's always good to have a question and answer event, as long as theres not too many people..it just leads to chaos.

((I enjoyed reading this thread))
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Vitamin wrote:

I loved the bit where it said "Ignoring NightTrace". Yet, it didn't say anything about ignoring the Cypherites at the Q&A session or the one talking about how hot it was to make-out with Veil.

 

PS: I bet you were REALLY dreading making this thread, Mr. Bit. SMILEY


QFT.

What a great way to encourage good roleplay during Live Events.  I guess we're supposed to be saying "lol agn pace ur hot will u mary me plz?" instead.




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Procurator wrote:
(( *Laughs.* That's a point. We should be getting in trouble over that. ))
(("The operator made me do it! He put a marker on my HUD and i thought I was supposed to hack it!" ))

Message edited by Skill on 05/19/2007 16:33:19.


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What is wrong with saying lol? it means my l33t d00d laughed out loud right... SMILEY


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Paying someone usually indicates they are in your employ and most employers are responsible for their employees actions.  I hope the Machines are prepared to be responsible for the Cyperites actions. 

This is a deplorable solution, Pace.  You only stated you would pay for the information, yet put no limits on how the information was to be gathered.  They use more then just hacking to get their information or have you forgotten.  After only a few attempts at coming to a beneficial solution, for all involved, with Zion this is what you turn to and it is backed by Agent Gray.  This may seem efficient now, but many of your future dealings with Zion will be tainted by this solution, thereby decreasing your much beloved efficiency in the future. 

This solution will only lead to increasing tension and distrust of the Machines, the exact opposite of what should be occuring.  One step forward, two steps back... I guess the cycle continues.

~Red


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Nicely put, RedBindi.  There appears to be no tactic too underhanded to test the limits of the Truce and to test Zion's capacity to work past these setbacks.  We, of course, are up to the challenge for the sake of preserving humanity's freedom, but it sure would be swell if the Machines shared our willingness to cooperate without all the double talk and double standards.




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ThePigeonKing wrote:
As for you, Neoteny... Well, a large portion of Zionites are still supporting EPN. That's a bit strange. While both Cypherites and EPN are misguided groups on the fringe of fanaticism, the Cypherites are at least concerned with the well-being of the System which must be maintained at all costs. E Pluribus Neo disregards the importance of the System and its rules time and time again, chasing its own tail.

What are you talking about? A small portion of Zion is supporting us. And you talk about both sub orgs like you know first hand while you are affiliated with neither.

The fact is that EPN is outside of the truce. All that means is that we accept responsibility for our own actions unattached from Zion. The Cyphs are breaking the truce for the Machines who are bound by the truce.




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this was a fun QA session SMILEY



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Vesuveus wrote:
ThePigeonKing wrote:
As for you, Neoteny... Well, a large portion of Zionites are still supporting EPN. That's a bit strange. While both Cypherites and EPN are misguided groups on the fringe of fanaticism, the Cypherites are at least concerned with the well-being of the System which must be maintained at all costs. E Pluribus Neo disregards the importance of the System and its rules time and time again, chasing its own tail.

What are you talking about? A small portion of Zion is supporting us. And you talk about both sub orgs like you know first hand while you are affiliated with neither.

The fact is that EPN is outside of the truce. All that means is that we accept responsibility for our own actions unattached from Zion. The Cyphs are breaking the truce for the Machines who are bound by the truce.

The Cypherites do not break the truce *for* the Machines. We just have similar goals sometimes.


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Iovai wrote:
Vesuveus wrote:
ThePigeonKing wrote:
As for you, Neoteny... Well, a large portion of Zionites are still supporting EPN. That's a bit strange. While both Cypherites and EPN are misguided groups on the fringe of fanaticism, the Cypherites are at least concerned with the well-being of the System which must be maintained at all costs. E Pluribus Neo disregards the importance of the System and its rules time and time again, chasing its own tail.

What are you talking about? A small portion of Zion is supporting us. And you talk about both sub orgs like you know first hand while you are affiliated with neither.

The fact is that EPN is outside of the truce. All that means is that we accept responsibility for our own actions unattached from Zion. The Cyphs are breaking the truce for the Machines who are bound by the truce.

The Cypherites do not break the truce *for* the Machines. We just have similar goals sometimes.
And just happen to be gettitng paid for every hijack, hack, and murder by the Machines.

Message edited by GamiSB on 05/21/2007 17:03:42.



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Iovai wrote:
Vesuveus wrote:
ThePigeonKing wrote:
As for you, Neoteny... Well, a large portion of Zionites are still supporting EPN. That's a bit strange. While both Cypherites and EPN are misguided groups on the fringe of fanaticism, the Cypherites are at least concerned with the well-being of the System which must be maintained at all costs. E Pluribus Neo disregards the importance of the System and its rules time and time again, chasing its own tail.

What are you talking about? A small portion of Zion is supporting us. And you talk about both sub orgs like you know first hand while you are affiliated with neither.

The fact is that EPN is outside of the truce. All that means is that we accept responsibility for our own actions unattached from Zion. The Cyphs are breaking the truce for the Machines who are bound by the truce.

The Cypherites do not break the truce *for* the Machines. We just have similar goals sometimes.

Your goals have always been similar, nay, the same. They were guiding you with Cryptos leading the front in days past, and they're guiding you with "friendly agreements" in days present.

Soon enough they'll have you conditioned to the point where you won't even need something to guide you in the "right direction", you'll just do as instructed. But make no mistake, they are still calling the shots, and you are still doing their bidding. Whether you care to know it, or you care to ignore it, it is a simple and blatant truth.




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Neoteny wrote:

The sooner we speak, the better, Machines. It isn't speaking much to your character, or your willingness to maintain peace, for that matter, that you would continue to sponsor those who are killing our operatives, sabotaging our equipment, spying on us, and lying to the inhabitants of your own System, even after your so-called "control factor" has been removed.

God help me, if something doesn't happen soon... Maybe I'll see it plainly why Morpheus did what he did.

I don't think the opinion of outsiders will do any good if they won't even listen to their own operatives...

Perhaps I should ask again why you would want to work for them?


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Iovai wrote:
Vesuveus wrote:
ThePigeonKing wrote:
As for you, Neoteny... Well, a large portion of Zionites are still supporting EPN. That's a bit strange. While both Cypherites and EPN are misguided groups on the fringe of fanaticism, the Cypherites are at least concerned with the well-being of the System which must be maintained at all costs. E Pluribus Neo disregards the importance of the System and its rules time and time again, chasing its own tail.

What are you talking about? A small portion of Zion is supporting us. And you talk about both sub orgs like you know first hand while you are affiliated with neither.

The fact is that EPN is outside of the truce. All that means is that we accept responsibility for our own actions unattached from Zion. The Cyphs are breaking the truce for the Machines who are bound by the truce.

The Cypherites do not break the truce *for* the Machines. We just have similar goals sometimes.

BS

For reasons Gami cited.




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GamiSB wrote:
Iovai wrote:
The Cypherites do not break the truce *for* the Machines. We just have similar goals sometimes.
And just happen to be gettitng paid for every hijack, hack, and murder by the Machines.

Oh yeah? And where did you get that from? The Cypherites have only been paid this time. If they murder and commit other atrocities during the execution of the operation they've just been paid for, then we have a problem. At that point, the Machines will either realise the error of their ways, or I will have lost hope.

 
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