Zampano1981 wrote:

Merely;

Machine Operatives today tracked down xxx and eliminated him,

not

Zampano today tracked down xxx and eliminated him.

But NPC redpills also have EJP, right?
So I could very well say that I've killed them, since thats the right way of saying it?
Like 2 RPers pvp/duel. One wins and says he killed the other while he has only made him EJP.

I think this is one of the roughest things with MMO's in general--doing missions that should earn you a name and affect the world, but which don't.

I like the more general missions, where the names change every mission so you can say you assassinated the lupine named Antelope in a high rise office building in Westview and it's fine. You did it. Congrats.

It's somewhat different with some of the major missions. Remember the captain of the Prodito, anyone? I'll give you a hint. You knew the captain, and helped free him from the Matrix. Trouble is so did everyone. Weird? Likewise raise your hand if you were the one to rescue Sati. Yeah.

I would love these kinds of story based things to get resolved in live events, where everyone plays a part in the same scene rather than having a thousand different versions of it going on all over the place. For a game that thrives on its roleplay and story aspects it would be very nice to see that cleaned up a lot.

I think this is one of the roughest things with MMO's in general--doing missions that should earn you a name and affect the world, but which don't.

I like the more general missions, where the names change every mission so you can say you assassinated the lupine named Antelope in a high rise office building in Westview and it's fine. You did it. Congrats.

It's somewhat different with some of the major missions. Remember the captain of the Prodito, anyone? I'll give you a hint. You knew the captain, and helped free him from the Matrix. Trouble is so did everyone. Weird? Likewise raise your hand if you were the one to rescue Sati. Yeah.

I would love these kinds of story based things to get resolved in live events, where everyone plays a part in the same scene rather than having a thousand different versions of it going on all over the place. For a game that thrives on its roleplay and story aspects it would be very nice to see that cleaned up a lot.

I think this is one of the roughest things with MMO's in general--doing missions that should earn you a name and affect the world, but which don't.

I like the more general missions, where the names change every mission so you can say you assassinated the lupine named Antelope in a high rise office building in Westview and it's fine. You did it. Congrats.

It's somewhat different with some of the major missions. Remember the captain of the Prodito, anyone? I'll give you a hint. You knew the captain, and helped free him from the Matrix. Trouble is so did everyone. Weird? Likewise raise your hand if you were the one to rescue Sati. Yeah.

I would love these kinds of story based things to get resolved in live events, where everyone plays a part in the same scene rather than having a thousand different versions of it going on all over the place. For a game that thrives on its roleplay and story aspects it would be very nice to see that cleaned up a lot.

Grimcleaver wrote:

I think this is one of the roughest things with MMO's in general--doing missions that should earn you a name and affect the world, but which don't.

I like the more general missions, where the names change every mission so you can say you assassinated the lupine named Antelope in a high rise office building in Westview and it's fine. You did it. Congrats.

It's somewhat different with some of the major missions. Remember the captain of the Prodito, anyone? I'll give you a hint. You knew the captain, and helped free him from the Matrix. Trouble is so did everyone. Weird? Likewise raise your hand if you were the one to rescue Sati. Yeah.

I would love these kinds of story based things to get resolved in live events, where everyone plays a part in the same scene rather than having a thousand different versions of it going on all over the place. For a game that thrives on its roleplay and story aspects it would be very nice to see that cleaned up a lot.

As much as I want this to happen, it's just impossible to carry out. Rarebit is spread out between helping develop the new content, writing all of the critical missions, not to mention that he only has enough time to do one event on one server on a daily basis. If we simply had more funding, all three servers would have had access to to the same Live Events instead of "event happens on X server", not to mention weekenders would have an actual opportunity to participate. Sadly, as it is right now, the Live Events are only flexible to the unemployed people in the U.S./Canada, and the night-owls in the Eastern Hemisphere.

Not true. Events tend to very much be luck of the draw. I'm far from unemployed but I live in Canada and find myself bumping into Events all the time. For example, last week I jacked in late in the evening with the expectation that I'd be the only one online and that I'd just be able to run the new critical mission without many interruptions- I was just too tired to be properly IC if anyone noticed me. But it turned out an Event was going down with Agent Gray and some Machine players chasing EPN across Chelsea, and me getting system messages from Flood demanding that I go check it out.

They're not flexible, no. But they're not supposed to be. It would have been awfully convenient if Morpheus and his crew, in the movies, were just sitting in their jack-in chairs waiting for something to happen. They were on a high state of alert, yes. But it's probably likely that they didn't catch every single Potential waiting to be unplugged or interfered with every nefarious scheme of The Merovingian. You catch some, you miss some. You were "doing maintenance on the Hovercraft" when the stuff was going down and missed the comms broadcasts. Or my personal favourite (because it's not always untrue of my RL self): "Attending to paperwork and requisitions".

As for the general topic: I sometimes substitute my own storyline into the Archive missions and explain what I'm doing in that context. Instead of escorting a Machine Program to safety, I'm picking up a recent Exile and taking him/her/it to a safehouse. I'm not meeting with an Agent to find out where the Commandos are, I'm meeting with the Agent to submit an "application for political asylum" on the behalf of my client- an Exiled Program. Et cetera.

They're not flexible, no. But they're not supposed to be. It would have been awfully convenient if Morpheus and his crew, in the movies, were just sitting in their jack-in chairs waiting for something to happen. They were on a high state of alert, yes. But it's probably likely that they didn't catch every single Potential waiting to be unplugged or interfered with every nefarious scheme of The Merovingian. You catch some, you miss some. You were "doing maintenance on the Hovercraft" when the stuff was going down and missed the comms broadcasts. Or my personal favourite (because it's not always untrue of my RL self): "Attending to paperwork and requisitions".

Yeah, when I was on the Rust-Bucket -- I *mean* the Draconigena, the "repairing the ship" excuse was easy to use for not being able to jack in for whatever reason. I used to come up with all kinds of fun reasons for why it took me a while on patch days, since I was on dial-up back then. "If someone would just get the lead out of the I/O device on my chair...", etc. One time, I said I'd tried to clean some rust on the deck, only to find that the rust *was* the deck. Someone who will remain nameless found that immensely funny: "Enjoyed your trip through the nether regions, Sieges?"

As for the general topic: I sometimes substitute my own storyline into the Archive missions and explain what I'm doing in that context. Instead of escorting a Machine Program to safety, I'm picking up a recent Exile and taking him/her/it to a safehouse. I'm not meeting with an Agent to find out where the Commandos are, I'm meeting with the Agent to submit an "application for political asylum" on the behalf of my client- an Exiled Program. Et cetera.

I never have anything against artificial RP explanations for anything outside the game reality... but I think if you wanna be "serious" as RPer and really play your character's part instead of just expressing yourself via RP, you just need to drop the archive missions.

No matter what the details say about "educational purposes", this is just an archive of the past MxO storyline. It has nothing to do with the Machines or whoever having dropped their secrecy and actually giving out all information to all redpills. It has nothing to do with constructs.

There are some things you simply don't have to read to much into. It's just a mission archive.