Terrorists in the matrix shall not be tolerated

demosthenian1

Not everyone is so innocent. Bluepills should be shown the truth: that they are enslaved by the Machines. Killing a bluepill without showing them truth and giving them the choice is murder. When choosing between freedom and slavery, every rational human will choose freedom. Those who kill innocent bluepills, whether machine or human, are enemies of freedom.

**Bayamos**

How exactly do Machines "kill" bluepills, when they rely on the pod-people for an energy source? Repeatedly, you speak of murder and killing bluepills, but I fail to see the connection. Rather, EPN are the murderers - their code bombs have on separate occasions, caused bluepills to die.

As for the element of choice, most podborn don't want to know. You're doing them a disservice by forcing them to know, and enslaving them with the realization that their entire life, world, et cetera is a lie, when they WANT to remain in that world. Forcing someone to awaken and suffer in a damp, dark cave, when they only wish to continue their current lives is tantamount to murder; EPN kill the dreams and remove choice from the innocents. As a Machinist, the bluepills must be protected, and any threat to the stability of the simulation removed.

**Brommerz77**

Yas sploits! Look at the damage on that sniper on the first screeny!

SPLOITS!!

YASASPLOITS

**exsuscito**

demosthenian1 wrote:

Not everyone is so innocent. Bluepills should be shown the truth: that they are enslaved by the Machines. Killing a bluepill without showing them truth and giving them the choice is murder. When choosing between freedom and slavery, every rational human will choose freedom. Those who kill innocent bluepills, whether machine or human, are enemies of freedom.

The members of EPN are so as a result of their own autonomous choice. They're also very much not blue pills.

demosthenian1

Which is precisely my point, if the members of EPN routinely kill bluepills, then they must be stopped.

**exsuscito**

You're arguing both sides of the coin. Pick a side and then perhaps I can contribute with full comprehension.

demosthenian1

Not quite. As you can see from my first post, I am arguing the same point as my last: those who kill bluepills, i.e. EPN's, must be stopped.

**Sphairo**

demosthenian1 wrote:

Not quite. As you can see from my first post, I am arguing the same point as my last: those who kill bluepills, i.e. EPN's, must be stopped.

Like all those bluepill's EPN were killing with their little Code bomb fiasco? Hypocrit, your full of it.

Terrorist's will be put down, I should hope we dont meet in the simulation.

spha x

Neolivesftw

When NEO comes back all yall toasters gonna die!

He be sayin BAM take out that toaster BAM take out that stupid mofo right here! bam

**exsuscito**

demosthenian1 wrote:

Not quite. As you can see from my first post, I am arguing the same point as my last: those who kill bluepills, i.e. EPN's, must be stopped.

I misunderstood your initial comments. I interpreted it as an attempt to counter my actions.

**exsuscito**

As requested (Doesn't show 'killed by' but the damage clearly adds up):

/Salute

**Zerotolerance**

Bayamo wrote:

Forcing someone to awaken and suffer in a damp, dark cave, when they only wish to continue their current lives is tantamount to murder.

Precisely. I feel that awakening a bluepill and showing them the biased point-of-view that the Machines caused the Real to be so tattered is a bold lie. We humans darkened the skies to kill the Machines -- the entire mechanical race. Instead of commiting genocide, the Machines chose to use us as an energy source. Imprisonment? No. I see it as survival and compassion, regardless of those who suffered during the initial expirementation.

It's hypocritical for E Pluribus Neo to take action in the simulation. Why not live on in the caves? Why enter the system when you despise it so much?

demosthenian1

But, you are missing an important point. Nobody is being forced to awaken. They are given the option. If they wished to continue their current lives, they would have chosen the bluepill and "believe what you want to believe," as Morpheus would say.

As for the "biased point-of-view," there is a bit of a discrepency in your argument. You seem to be missing the fact that we tell the coppertops the sky was darkened by us. Which was an effort to save the human race from those you call compassionate.

**GamiSB** · 01/02/2007 13:24:02

This crusade aginst EPN would make sence if those being targeted were the ones that were responcible for the code bombings that had accured. From what I've seen all that is in this thread is generalazation that because someone waves a golden tag they are automaticly labled a terrorsit and responcible for setting of code bombs. But then again this comeing from an org that lives by the priniciple to never question your authority it is not to be unexpected.

**Yasamuu**

The point in this is to confirm the elimination of identified targets for openly backing the deployment of code bombs and also breaking the truce on numerous occations, attacking our liason officer.