Just a quick point about sub-orgs; since the Merovingian organization has never had a breakaway faction or sub org, ironically enough I thought that would be in the cards for us, I thought the Morpheus Sim with Seraph's and others' help would shed his identity as "Morpheus" and become his own entity and start a "Free Exile" movement for those Exiles who do not want to be under the thumb of anyone; maybe he'd merge with the BIP or something, and the "Exilist" sub org would officially be born.

Who knows?  The main thing is now I can realize my dream of becoming "Jack the Hack"    (hehe kidding).

This sounds intersting to say the least. Rarebit has given us the information about the coming path but we will have to walk the path before we truly know it I guess.

My only concern is the CYPH/EPN deal. It has been mentioned that Rarebit has commented on dropped Chadwick ideas concerning these groups and their main characters in this thread. Any chance those present during whatever was said can elaborate for the rest of us? It kind of seems these groups are being swept under the carpet according to this thread to a certain degree.

I felt that after Seraph did his over-write extraction thingy on Cryptos that this could spell the end of these groups from within the story, coupled with the Oracle giving both groups pieces of whatever and then being killed. I still don't know what that was all about...But I figured the two groups would dissolve back into their main Zion and Machine orgaizations (to sum it up in a nutshell). Instead they both continued to plod along in an unclear (to me at least), meaningless direction.

We were also told ages ago that these groups would be temporary so this comes as no surprise to me. I just feel they are important, temporary or not and warrant (to the players as well as the fictional characters themselves), a solid departure or retreat as the case may be from the fore-front. This would bring closure to all players and the characters in question as well as CONTINUE the story and tie up loose ends. If said characters don't end up being killed off it also leaves future story lines open for the possibility of exploration.

As it stands according to this thread I just see them almost literally being swept under the rug via giant broom. I just hope that is not the case. That giant broom keeps showing up for me as far as the story goes since Paul Chadwick's departure...

This whole Intruder/No Fly Zone/etc line is dragging along with more questions and pretty much zero answers to the point where I barely care about it at all. I am seeing that giant broom in the end of this arch...The way I see it the root of the information in this arch is in the real. The instance that was never intended/implemented for MxO, thereby removing all of us from the story yet again. I know we all have to use our imaginations concerning the story but it just seems to be happening on a more regular basis.

That being said, I have had both my ship and many others in Exemplar Triune head full speed to the No Fly Zone and we crashlanded after being attacked by Sentinels. After leaving our partially destroyed Hovercrafts we found Halborn injured but alive and Carlyne and Danille Wright and Mauser. They were all arguing about who should get the BIP so much so they barely noticed we survived the attack so we just zapped em all with our EMP rifles. The Kid and EPN picked us up as they were in the area and drop a huge payload of EMP bombs on the site just before EVAC.

While this was going on the operatives inside the Matrix wiped out the last of the overrides. At the same time good Old Effy was able to chase the BIP in the Matrix catching up with it and trapping it in a very tiny construct of his creation with only one method of exit locked by him. In the event the Matrix is reset or restarted the construct will self destruct taking with it whatever the BIP is/was. In short Effy files the BIP under "G" for garbage. As for the No Fly Zone and whatever was there...do you see it? The giant broom? Okay, good.

As for the companies in the Matrix involved...Machine overwrites return everything to normal. EPN returns to Zion and/or some operatives choose other avenues. Same with the Cypherites especially considering it was all another method of control implemented by the Machines without CHOICE/FREE WILL.

Now what you ask? Easy. Two searches are organized and implemented. One in the real to find Morpheus body or the man alive somewhere. This is long overdue. Another in the Matrix to find the over-elusive Sarah Edmontons.

ExternalError wrote:

ok looking at all the points made i for one am looking forward to about 80% of these changes.  the ones i dont like are:

iradication of the sub orgs these represent peoples choice in game for instance epn do what zion cannot due to their responsibilities to the people living in zion.  what happens to these proactive members now.

 Removal of LESIG i for know lesig had its leaks and a few of the liasons were just plain rubbish for many reasons. but there have been a few things that have hooked me to a story line here and there.  For one the thermal image fragment story and the 01 mainframe with LESIG gone does this mean this will stop becuase i think we still need a long projected mystery to sole to give those willing to delve deeper a chance.  Also with LESIG gone what happens to Scanline and The Sentinall.  A month or two ago now it was adertised that BA 52 was coming yet we have not seen anything since i guess with the disolution of LESIG this will never come now.

I agree with the Live event changes because they were becoming very samey with the go here do this talk to him/her hack a server meet at a club.  so it will be a fresh change but i do think that it should be mixed up a little now and then.

Rarebit if you read this can you answe these 3 questions as the future of these items was neglected from your post

 What happens to the Sentinal?

What happens to the 01mainframe?

What happens to Scanline?

Basically i still hold a little faith even though your basically screwing my sub org, i just want to know if these deeper plot lines will continue or if they are being removed with the rest of LESIG

Definately things that needs to be addressed in my opinion.

As huge as the mega city is.... players just can't seem to put down the crack pipe called "MARA CENTRAL".... That's a fatal flaw of many FPS games. Players that will only fight on a specific map they know which is usually the most common FPS map... and just wont venture out because they don't know it.

This sounds intersting to say the least. Rarebit has given us the information about the coming path but we will have to walk the path before we truly know it I guess.

My only concern is the CYPH/EPN deal. It has been mentioned that Rarebit has commented on dropped Chadwick ideas concerning these groups and their main characters in this thread. Any chance those present during whatever was said can elaborate for the rest of us? It kind of seems these groups are being swept under the carpet according to this thread to a certain degree.

I felt that after Seraph did his over-write extraction thingy on Cryptos that this could spell the end of these groups from within the story, coupled with the Oracle giving both groups pieces of whatever and then being killed. I still don't know what that was all about...But I figured the two groups would dissolve back into their main Zion and Machine orgaizations (to sum it up in a nutshell). Instead they both continued to plod along in an unclear (to me at least), meaningless direction.

We were also told ages ago that these groups would be temporary so this comes as no surprise to me. I just feel they are important, temporary or not and warrant (to the players as well as the fictional characters themselves), a solid departure or retreat as the case may be from the fore-front. This would bring closure to all players and the characters in question as well as CONTINUE the story and tie up loose ends. If said characters don't end up being killed off it also leaves future story lines open for the possibility of exploration.

As it stands according to this thread I just see them almost literally being swept under the rug via giant broom. I just hope that is not the case. That giant broom keeps showing up for me as far as the story goes since Paul Chadwick's departure...

This whole Intruder/No Fly Zone/etc line is dragging along with more questions and pretty much zero answers to the point where I barely care about it at all. I am seeing that giant broom in the end of this arch...The way I see it the root of the information in this arch is in the real. The instance that was never intended/implemented for MxO, thereby removing all of us from the story yet again. I know we all have to use our imaginations concerning the story but it just seems to be happening on a more regular basis.

That being said, I have had both my ship and many others in Exemplar Triune head full speed to the No Fly Zone and we crashlanded after being attacked by Sentinels. After leaving our partially destroyed Hovercrafts we found Halborn injured but alive and Carlyne and Danille Wright and Mauser. They were all arguing about who should get the BIP so much so they barely noticed we survived the attack so we just zapped em all with our EMP rifles. The Kid and EPN picked us up as they were in the area and drop a huge payload of EMP bombs on the site just before EVAC.

While this was going on the operatives inside the Matrix wiped out the last of the overrides. At the same time good Old Effy was able to chase the BIP in the Matrix catching up with it and trapping it in a very tiny construct of his creation with only one method of exit locked by him. In the event the Matrix is reset or restarted the construct will self destruct taking with it whatever the BIP is/was. In short Effy files the BIP under "G" for garbage. As for the No Fly Zone and whatever was there...do you see it? The giant broom? Okay, good.

As for the companies in the Matrix involved...Machine overwrites return everything to normal. EPN returns to Zion and/or some operatives choose other avenues. Same with the Cypherites especially considering it was all another method of control implemented by the Machines without CHOICE/FREE WILL.

Now what you ask? Easy. Two searches are organized and implemented. One in the real to find Morpheus body or the man alive somewhere. This is long overdue. Another in the Matrix to find the over-elusive Sarah Edmontons.

Ingus wrote:

As huge as the mega city is.... players just can't seem to put down the crack pipe called "MARA CENTRAL".... That's a fatal flaw of many FPS games. Players that will only fight on a specific map they know which is usually the most common FPS map... and just wont venture out because they don't know it.

Mwhahaha, what's most fun is when Mara Central hardline is down. Suddenly you meet people spreaded all over the place. AND THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. Get your *censored* bums out of that stinking hole you call Mara Central.


That is all.

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Ingus wrote:

As huge as the mega city is.... players just can't seem to put down the crack pipe called "MARA CENTRAL".... That's a fatal flaw of many FPS games. Play ers that will only fight on a specific map they know which is usually the most common FPS map... and just wont venture out because they don't know it.

Mwhahaha, what's most fun is when Mara Central hardline is down. Suddenly you meet people spreaded all over the place. AND THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. Get your *censored* bums out of that stinking hole you call Mara Central.


That is all.

I have always thought if it could be put into game,the devs should code any hardline to start spawning agents if too many level 50's are within a certain distance of the hardline for too long.it would stop some of the standing around at the same spot and would make sense since the system would not want so many redpills drawing attention after a certain time at a single location.

Neoteny wrote:

Historically, changes in the status quo in MMOs are signs that the game is collapsing or, in our case, going downhilll (from the business perspective, MxO collapsed a while ago).

If you look at SWG it's the CU and the NGE.

If you look at EQ2, there was that whole class revamp thing. And then I think they did it again? (I had cancelled by then)

If you look at MxO it's the SoE acquisition (disbanding of LET), CR2, and likely this.

Now I'm not saying the changes might not be for the best (I don't think they will, but I haven't lived through them yet, so I could be wrong), but major changes generally seem to result in a drop in subscriptions when it comes to MMOs.

Best point made so far in this entire thread.