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Ascendent Logic

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Ok, lets assume that the machines uses a Computer similiar to ours to run The Matrix.  What do you think it's specs would be like?  Personally I can't even imagine how big the HD, RAM would be.  Probably in the billions, and the Motherboard would be a billion times better than the best Motherboard we have now.  So to try to even imagine the computer that it would take to house our world would be nearly impossible, what do yall think? 



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Memory and stuff like that can be made so small these days. its unreal how fast technology is advancing. it would still be big tho..



Ascendent Logic

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have you even looked on the back of the case?!
sheesh



all sillyness aside, probably about 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
flerabytes of SUPA 1337 ram
the other stuff i can't even try to imagine.. SMILEY



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I would have to say the the machine hardware is probably so far from what we have now there is not current language for the actual components. I've always assumed nano-technology would be an AI second stroke, and in general the hardware would probably be far more productive than anything we have ever seen.


What I always wonder about is "alternate power sources".

 "there are level of survival we are prepared to accept" is this just a reserve and if so far and how much can run on it for how long.

Message edited by AqueousRei on 10/03/2006 00:20:49.



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AqueousRei wrote:
I would have to say the the machine hardware is probably so far from what we have now there is not current language for the actual components. I've always assumed nano-technology would be an AI second stroke, and in general the hardware would probably far more productive than anything we have ever seen.


What I always wonder about is "alternate power sources".

 "there are level of survival we are prepared to accept" is this just a reserve and if so far and how much can run on it for how long.


Well in the movie there was an endless thunderstorm, so maybe they would harness the power of lighting? 



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SMILEY nice real nice.

It was always my thinking the the lightning was the atmosphere reaction to the man made machine cloud system... Even old Ben Franklin had that one figured out SMILEY



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Actually, I think I read somewhere, perhaps a transcript of the Animatrix or something, that we are the computer that generates the Matrix. That, not only do we supply the electrical and heat energy the Machines need, but through the parts of our brains that we don't yet use, the Machines use us to run the calculations necessary to run this realistic a simulation.

The human brain can calculate and assimilate data millions of times faster than the fastest computer on the planet. There are scientists that liken the human brain to a Pentium 60 at 160,000 tHz. Then, networked together, each brain working on different parts of the same problem, such processing would be virtually undetectable by us (except for a little more tiredness or slow-wittedness perhaps) and would be billions of times more powerful than one brain on its own. It would be easy for the toasters to tap into this super-computer.




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Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

Actually, I think I read somewhere, perhaps a transcript of the Animatrix or something, that we are the computer that generates the Matrix. That, not only do we supply the electrical and heat energy the Machines need, but through the parts of our brains that we don't yet use, the Machines use us to run the calculations necessary to run this realistic a simulation.

The human brain can calculate and assimilate data millions of times faster than the fastest computer on the planet. There are scientists that liken the human brain to a Pentium 60 at 160,000 tHz. Then, networked together, each brain working on different parts of the same problem, such processing would be virtually undetectable by us (except for a little more tiredness or slow-wittedness perhaps) and would be billions of times more powerful than one brain on its own. It would be easy for the toasters to tap into this super-computer.


So basically, it's like an Open Source MMO? 



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MetaLogic wrote:
So basically, it's like an Open Source MMO?

 

Well, more like a peer2peer network. All of our human brains networked and slaved to a massive processor.




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Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:
MetaLogic wrote:
So basically, it's like an Open Source MMO?

 

Well, more like a peer2peer network. All of our human brains networked and slaved to a massive processor.



Intresting way of looking at it.  That makes the most sense, since for those of us who jack in and out of The Matrix, we have small computers built into our brains. 



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Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

Actually, I think I read somewhere, perhaps a transcript of the Animatrix or something, that we are the computer that generates the Matrix. That, not only do we supply the electrical and heat energy the Machines need, but through the parts of our brains that we don't yet use, the Machines use us to run the calculations necessary to run this realistic a simulation.

The human brain can calculate and assimilate data millions of times faster than the fastest computer on the planet. There are scientists that liken the human brain to a Pentium 60 at 160,000 tHz. Then, networked together, each brain working on different parts of the same problem, such processing would be virtually undetectable by us (except for a little more tiredness or slow-wittedness perhaps) and would be billions of times more powerful than one brain on its own. It would be easy for the toasters to tap into this super-computer.


But wouldn't that defy the fact of The Architect creating The Matrix?



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DarkRevenantW wrote:
But wouldn't that defy the fact of The Architect creating The Matrix?


No, he wrote the simulation. The Machines just use our brains, connected together in a vast "neural network" if you will, as the computer that runs it. Each brain does only a small part of the calculations, similar to the open/close circuit on one of today's processors. They keep it running at optimal efficiency, with each brain operating at 100% of possible capacity, without danger of 'crashes'.

 So, imagine one tower of Battery City as one gigantic processor, harddrive, memory, graphics card, etc. And then imagine about 100 of them, linked together. More than enough computing power to run a simulation, even one as detailed and realistic as the Matrix. 

This theory has some fantastic opportunities for stories. Such as: what if Autistic children were not really autistic at all? What if, in fact, they were so smart that the Machines tied their brains up with extra computations, giving the simulation a 'supernode' that can compute faster than normal ones, while also handicapping a mind that would easily see and understand the nature of the Matrix?

Just thinking 'out loud'. SMILEY




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I think that idea was from Goliath, where they explained that 'We only use 15% of our brains' thing by saying that the other 85% is what the Machines are using. (as RAM maybe?)


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Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:
MetaLogic wrote:

Well, more like a peer2peer network. All of our human brains networked and slaved to a massive processor.


I think the term your looking for is a HA Cluster. Combined with some form of grid-based computing...

 

or taking the "neural network" idea a bit too far...



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It's probably at least at the level of bio-computers or quantum computers, which are both next on the list for where computers might go next after transistors. Whereas current computers process data by using electricity to keep small switches open or closed, quantum computers store bits of data based on the spin of atoms or the energy level of electrons, or some such gobbledygook like that.

 
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