For now enough would be exactly that, ZeroMark.
And you know my number Drisena.
Soldiers,
A reminder, any submitted tie clips, must be done before the 1st of the coming month.
Systematica, if you wore a tie clip, I'm quite sure it would now be in my hands.
DrisenaZion Liaison Officer
If you have yet to send in any more tieclips, please be aware that you have until the end of today, to do so.
Thank you to all operatives involved in getting us these Tie Clips.
After confirmation on submitted entries, winners will be announced within the next 24 hours.
Thank you to all operatives who have sent in Tie Clips.
I can now confirm that the operative team to submit the highest amount of tie clips was Furious Angels, with a final total of 117 Tie Clips.
This has sent a big message back to the Agents that are trying to hunt us down.
Hello, greetings, I am captain, but I do not have ship and crew. I say this because single I, cannot with any agent because I do not have level, but want to help. That level I must have, to make this mission successfully.
I do not want that nobody despises my sweat.
Two weeks have passed... Any word from Ghost or Niobe on the status of things Drisena?
*** one of our members had a great idea... How about a new T-Shirt that says "I killed 117 Agents and all I got was this lousy shirt" *****
machete wrote:exsuscito wrote:machete wrote:Exsuscito... I suggest you decide who's side you are REALLY on. You said once you went to the machines because it seemed like the right choice. Do you still feel the same way now? Now that you have seen the machines kill for no reason but to kill. To kill because the "system deemed it necessary" are the machines those noble programs you once thought they were? No, you are the one who is mistaken my old friend. Not only will we stand our ground, but we will defeat those agents who stand in our way. If you stand in my way, then you will feel my wrath as well...MacheteBig words indeed, but ultimately pointless posturing. I've simply stated that Zion shouldn't underestimate the agents, and overestimate the force they can collectively generate. The Zionist argument since making that point can be boiled down to : "If we all get together and try really, really hard, we can kick any agents behind". Now, I'm all for confidence and self-belief, but this isn't a conversation about who's Dad can beat up whomever elses Dad. I still work with the machines towards co-existence, but the Zionist EPN-lite cries of "Rawrrr, don't cross us or we'll (try, and fail to) destroy you" are helping nothing, and nobody. If an agent is chasing you, you did something wrong. If one is seemingly chasing you for no reason, then you can blame your helpful Brothers and Sisters for breaking the truce and painting a target on your back.Lest you forget who made the first approach for peace, and who the aggressor was. It's abundantly clear that Zion has no interest in co-existence, so yes I do still consider the machines to have a greater awareness of nobility than most can ever imagine. Sidenote: As for 'feeling your wrath', I'm not in the least interested in chest-beating or marking territory. Let's hope that your overt aggression doesn't get you or anyone around you into trouble.I am not pointlessly posturing. The fact remains that we are at war again. The fact that both EPN AND The Merovingians forces are both looking for weaknesses in the machine defenses in the real, shows that Zion are not the only one's looking to wrest control of Matrix from the machines. The machines control is starting to weaken. The big machine is starting to fail and crack. Mistakes are being made, people are dying because of it. I fight for humanity and its existance. I also fight for all sentient beings to co-exist. BUT I draw the line when I am needlessly attacked by agents just because I hold a zion tag above my head. I am not the enemy here, the machines and their oppressive nature are. They maintained a truce with us as long as we remained under their thumb and within their watchful eye. Once they saw we were under the radar building up our defenses and created a whole new city, it freaked them out... A LOT! Why should they be so scared if they have the supposed forces to destroy us? Shouldnt they see this is logical considering what they did to us in the past? Shouldnt they try to work it out with Zion and re-assure us they won't attack? Shouldnt they be the better one's here and try and maintain peace? Shouldnt the machines be the bigger person and try and work LOGICALLY with us rather than go off and officially announce "THE TRUCE IS NOW OVER!?" I mean we are the cave monkeys right? We are the one's who think with our guns and not with our brains? If they are SOOO superior to us why do they want to be so much like us still? Why do they still wrestle with trying to convey human emotions? You machinists make me laugh because you sit in your mechanical wannabe mindstates and forget how human you stilll are. If you werent, you wouldnt be sitting here arguing with little ole me about things that bothered you. If you were machinelike you would deem these arguements as "inefficient" and ignore me " width="15" height="15">Sidenote: Don't you have a ZION alt on recursion called Cervacius?? " width="15" height="15"> Ah the bait and switch, a fine foundation to any side of a discussion . You're making wild assumptions about the machinists state of mind and being, assumptions which aid your argument but ultimately fall flat due to a total lack of context or relevance. It amounts to name-calling, and I like to think that this doesn't reflect the Zionist opinion in its entirety. You say that the machines should be the ones to take the high road and offer peace. If you check the archives you'll find that this already took place, but omitting such information gives your argument a nice, shiny veneer so we'll just slide right past that fact. You've spent your entire post asking wayward, rhetorical questions which amount to nothing, and your final paragraph is laughable. Please continue with your remarkably accurate sterotype that all machinists consider themselves to be mechanical, it's truly amusing. Personally, I don't believe I do fall into your category of 'robot wannabe', and even if I did your bait and switch would remain as telling as it is now. I've already stated that I have little interest in chest-beating, I've have even less for oneupmanship.Ref sidenote: I have no idea where you got that from, but no I don't have an alt, or indeed ever heard of a character named 'Cervacius'. Bringing that up to discredit me really lends credence to your argument though, well done.I'm all up for discussing the subject, but not at this infantile level.
exsuscito wrote:machete wrote:Exsuscito... I suggest you decide who's side you are REALLY on. You said once you went to the machines because it seemed like the right choice. Do you still feel the same way now? Now that you have seen the machines kill for no reason but to kill. To kill because the "system deemed it necessary" are the machines those noble programs you once thought they were? No, you are the one who is mistaken my old friend. Not only will we stand our ground, but we will defeat those agents who stand in our way. If you stand in my way, then you will feel my wrath as well...MacheteBig words indeed, but ultimately pointless posturing. I've simply stated that Zion shouldn't underestimate the agents, and overestimate the force they can collectively generate. The Zionist argument since making that point can be boiled down to : "If we all get together and try really, really hard, we can kick any agents behind". Now, I'm all for confidence and self-belief, but this isn't a conversation about who's Dad can beat up whomever elses Dad. I still work with the machines towards co-existence, but the Zionist EPN-lite cries of "Rawrrr, don't cross us or we'll (try, and fail to) destroy you" are helping nothing, and nobody. If an agent is chasing you, you did something wrong. If one is seemingly chasing you for no reason, then you can blame your helpful Brothers and Sisters for breaking the truce and painting a target on your back.Lest you forget who made the first approach for peace, and who the aggressor was. It's abundantly clear that Zion has no interest in co-existence, so yes I do still consider the machines to have a greater awareness of nobility than most can ever imagine. Sidenote: As for 'feeling your wrath', I'm not in the least interested in chest-beating or marking territory. Let's hope that your overt aggression doesn't get you or anyone around you into trouble.I am not pointlessly posturing. The fact remains that we are at war again. The fact that both EPN AND The Merovingians forces are both looking for weaknesses in the machine defenses in the real, shows that Zion are not the only one's looking to wrest control of Matrix from the machines. The machines control is starting to weaken. The big machine is starting to fail and crack. Mistakes are being made, people are dying because of it. I fight for humanity and its existance. I also fight for all sentient beings to co-exist. BUT I draw the line when I am needlessly attacked by agents just because I hold a zion tag above my head. I am not the enemy here, the machines and their oppressive nature are. They maintained a truce with us as long as we remained under their thumb and within their watchful eye. Once they saw we were under the radar building up our defenses and created a whole new city, it freaked them out... A LOT! Why should they be so scared if they have the supposed forces to destroy us? Shouldnt they see this is logical considering what they did to us in the past? Shouldnt they try to work it out with Zion and re-assure us they won't attack? Shouldnt they be the better one's here and try and maintain peace? Shouldnt the machines be the bigger person and try and work LOGICALLY with us rather than go off and officially announce "THE TRUCE IS NOW OVER!?" I mean we are the cave monkeys right? We are the one's who think with our guns and not with our brains? If they are SOOO superior to us why do they want to be so much like us still? Why do they still wrestle with trying to convey human emotions? You machinists make me laugh because you sit in your mechanical wannabe mindstates and forget how human you stilll are. If you werent, you wouldnt be sitting here arguing with little ole me about things that bothered you. If you were machinelike you would deem these arguements as "inefficient" and ignore me " width="15" height="15">Sidenote: Don't you have a ZION alt on recursion called Cervacius?? " width="15" height="15">
machete wrote:Exsuscito... I suggest you decide who's side you are REALLY on. You said once you went to the machines because it seemed like the right choice. Do you still feel the same way now? Now that you have seen the machines kill for no reason but to kill. To kill because the "system deemed it necessary" are the machines those noble programs you once thought they were? No, you are the one who is mistaken my old friend. Not only will we stand our ground, but we will defeat those agents who stand in our way. If you stand in my way, then you will feel my wrath as well...MacheteBig words indeed, but ultimately pointless posturing. I've simply stated that Zion shouldn't underestimate the agents, and overestimate the force they can collectively generate. The Zionist argument since making that point can be boiled down to : "If we all get together and try really, really hard, we can kick any agents behind". Now, I'm all for confidence and self-belief, but this isn't a conversation about who's Dad can beat up whomever elses Dad. I still work with the machines towards co-existence, but the Zionist EPN-lite cries of "Rawrrr, don't cross us or we'll (try, and fail to) destroy you" are helping nothing, and nobody. If an agent is chasing you, you did something wrong. If one is seemingly chasing you for no reason, then you can blame your helpful Brothers and Sisters for breaking the truce and painting a target on your back.Lest you forget who made the first approach for peace, and who the aggressor was. It's abundantly clear that Zion has no interest in co-existence, so yes I do still consider the machines to have a greater awareness of nobility than most can ever imagine. Sidenote: As for 'feeling your wrath', I'm not in the least interested in chest-beating or marking territory. Let's hope that your overt aggression doesn't get you or anyone around you into trouble.
Exsuscito... I suggest you decide who's side you are REALLY on. You said once you went to the machines because it seemed like the right choice. Do you still feel the same way now? Now that you have seen the machines kill for no reason but to kill. To kill because the "system deemed it necessary" are the machines those noble programs you once thought they were? No, you are the one who is mistaken my old friend. Not only will we stand our ground, but we will defeat those agents who stand in our way. If you stand in my way, then you will feel my wrath as well...Machete
Big words indeed, but ultimately pointless posturing. I've simply stated that Zion shouldn't underestimate the agents, and overestimate the force they can collectively generate. The Zionist argument since making that point can be boiled down to : "If we all get together and try really, really hard, we can kick any agents behind".
Now, I'm all for confidence and self-belief, but this isn't a conversation about who's Dad can beat up whomever elses Dad. I still work with the machines towards co-existence, but the Zionist EPN-lite cries of "Rawrrr, don't cross us or we'll (try, and fail to) destroy you" are helping nothing, and nobody. If an agent is chasing you, you did something wrong. If one is seemingly chasing you for no reason, then you can blame your helpful Brothers and Sisters for breaking the truce and painting a target on your back.
Lest you forget who made the first approach for peace, and who the aggressor was. It's abundantly clear that Zion has no interest in co-existence, so yes I do still consider the machines to have a greater awareness of nobility than most can ever imagine.
Sidenote: As for 'feeling your wrath', I'm not in the least interested in chest-beating or marking territory. Let's hope that your overt aggression doesn't get you or anyone around you into trouble.
Ah the bait and switch, a fine foundation to any side of a discussion . You're making wild assumptions about the machinists state of mind and being, assumptions which aid your argument but ultimately fall flat due to a total lack of context or relevance. It amounts to name-calling, and I like to think that this doesn't reflect the Zionist opinion in its entirety.
You say that the machines should be the ones to take the high road and offer peace. If you check the archives you'll find that this already took place, but omitting such information gives your argument a nice, shiny veneer so we'll just slide right past that fact.
You've spent your entire post asking wayward, rhetorical questions which amount to nothing, and your final paragraph is laughable. Please continue with your remarkably accurate sterotype that all machinists consider themselves to be mechanical, it's truly amusing. Personally, I don't believe I do fall into your category of 'robot wannabe', and even if I did your bait and switch would remain as telling as it is now.
I've already stated that I have little interest in chest-beating, I've have even less for oneupmanship.
Ref sidenote: I have no idea where you got that from, but no I don't have an alt, or indeed ever heard of a character named 'Cervacius'. Bringing that up to discredit me really lends credence to your argument though, well done.
I'm all up for discussing the subject, but not at this infantile level.
I would like to resurrect this thread to point out that I am my own personage. Thank you.
