Fire in movie 2

WGAnubis1

I dont quite understand the part when Neo left the architect with the wave of fire trailing after him.

A theory I have is that it may have been a sort of fail safe designed to atleast try to injure the one so they could drag him to the door on the right and cause a forced reset.

Thoughts?

**FrozenFyre**

I've always thought that the fire was because Neo triggered "The Bomb"
(did he say bomb?) located in the Architect's building by returning to
it when the window was closed and not returning to the source. Works
for me.

Aule5

FrozenFyre wrote:
I've always thought that the fire was because Neo triggered "The Bomb" (did he say bomb?) located in the Architect's building by returning to it when the window was closed and not returning to the source. Works for me.

yeah, I think that since the door was opened after all of the power came back on, the bomb was triggered.

**zeroone506**

That's actually exactly as it happened. SMILEY

**Othinn1**

According to the Matrix special effects crew in a Cinefex article, the fire is a result of Neo's rage. It's coming from behind him, and not from the building, where the bomb is.

Plus, with both the main and auxiliary power down, the alarm cannot sound and the bomb cannot detonate.

vivi44

The truth is Neo chucked a grenade in the controll room killing the arch, if you argue that the controll was in a construct not bound by the normall rules of the matrix and would be secure you gota ask yourself why was he flying out then?

Sort of like the trainmans construct.

But with all grenade tossing aside I assumed he trigged the bomb

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Message edited by vivi44 on 04/29/2006 16:24:20.

**Othinn1**

vivi44 wrote:

But with all grenade tossing aside I assumed he trigged the bomb
Message Edited by vivi44 on 04-29-2006 05:24 PM

How? The power's down. And the bomb's in the building, not the Architect's room.

I'm going with that the special effects guys said.

ThePigeonKing

Othinn1 wrote:
According to the Matrix special effects crew in a Cinefex article, the fire is a result of Neo's rage. It's coming from behind him, and not from the building, where the bomb is.

Plus, with both the main and auxiliary power down, the alarm cannot sound and the bomb cannot detonate.

That is kee-rect. Whatever was behind the door was already being ignited, as you could see before the explosion, before Neo went through the door. The fire is also coming from the door.

Message Edited by ThePigeonKing on 04-29-2006 05:30 PM
Message edited by ThePigeonKing on 04/29/2006 16:30:30.

Dodge_THIS

Othinn1 wrote:
According to the Matrix special effects crew in a Cinefex article, the fire is a result of Neo's rage. It's coming from behind him, and not from the building, where the bomb is.

Plus, with both the main and auxiliary power down, the alarm cannot sound and the bomb cannot detonate.

Neo's rage? LOL. The fire appeared to be "coming from behind him", not "coming from him", a big difference. It seemed to me that he was using his bullet-time skillz to get away from it.

If you recall, the scene changed to a view of the building from the outside, where we saw the entire floor of the building explode at once (as if a bomb went off), with the flames spewing out of the building from all sides, and then you saw Neo come flying out. So while there were some flames behind him, they also appeared to be generated from multiple points within the building (i.e. from a bomb) as he was trying to escape.

Yes, the auxillary power was taken down by Trinity at the beginning, which would've prevented the bomb from going off, but the power could've easily brought back up in the meantime while Neo was chatting it up w/ the Architect. Also, take note that as soon as Neo gets out of the building and starts flying to save Trinity, all the buildings are lit up -- they have power. This would not be the case unless the backup power had been restored, which would have, in turn, lead to the bomb.

**Othinn1**

digitize wrote:

Yes, the auxillary power was taken down by Trinity at the beginning, which would've prevented the bomb from going off, but the power could've easily brought back up in the meantime while Neo was chatting it up w/ the Architect. Also, take note that as soon as Neo gets out of the building and starts flying to save Trinity, all the buildings are lit up -- they have power. This would not be the case unless the backup power had been restored, which would have, in turn, lead to the bomb.

The building Neo flew out of was completely dark. We've seen it with the power on, several of its rooms are lit up when it is on.

Neo was flying at an extremely fast speed. By the time we saw him, he most likely left the 27 blocks whose power was off.

And I find it interesting that you're saying that the people who worked on that scene are wrong. Still, nobody has to accept them.

WGAnubis1

Out of curosity, wouldnt the fire be caused more by the sheer speed that neo was flying at? I mean if you recall, he was going so fast that cars were tumbling right behind him and everything was a blur.

Wouldnt that generate large amount of friction with the air particles and thus emense heat?

In regards to the rage, I dont know, I think I would be rather pissed after finding out that I was just a pawn of the system meant to restart the game and the one person (the Oracle) that knew never told me, or rather, never hinted.

Zelon

Through the eyes of its creators it was to show his anger. The reason why there was a huge explosion though was because the Flames ignited the bomb.

Doondoon

The Bomb was only disarmed for 3 minutes so while hes in there talking the power comes back on as u see while Neo is flying out the power around the building (all the little buildings) is back on so the bomb was back on. it could have been considered his rage but it was actualy the bomb since that was the first time the One ever took that Door becoz nomraly he chose to re insert the prime code. u see him flying out of the door although he walks out from the room....weird huh

Doondoon

oh and if it was his speed he was going at that caused the fire it wouldnt have been the air behind him that caught on fire it woulda be him just like when i meteor falls to earth The Rock Catches Fire and Creats the Tail. also the fire was only inside the building. Neo gained speed as he flew thus is why u hear the Sonic Boom when hes Flying also if it was the Speed that Caused the Fire why didnt The Air explode when he was flying from the Chatue to the Highway to Save Morpheus and The Keymaker???

Dodge_THIS

Othinn1 wrote:

The building Neo flew out of was completely dark. We've seen it with the power on, several of its rooms are lit up when it is on.

True, but if the bomb had gone off, it likely would've taken out the power again, no?

Neo was flying at an extremely fast speed. By the time we saw him, he most likely left the 27 blocks whose power was off.

Possibly, but hard to say.

And I find it interesting that you're saying that the people who worked on that scene are wrong. Still, nobody has to accept them.

Well, since you didn't provide any direct link to what you quoted from the special effects crew, I really don't know what they actually said, vs. your interpretation of what they said. Besides, most things about the Matrix are open to interpretation anyway.