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Denary wrote:
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I logged today on my llv 16 on vector to see what the server is like 1 year after my last visit and I got killed 3 seconds after and remembered why I left the server for 1 whole year...
You left because you are perma flagged at level 16?? I'm sorry but thats bull if you're flagged and are going to get killed in 1 hit then generally you should have the good sense to keep your evade up and make sure there isn't a red around.

How exactly, when jacking in initially, do you make sure there isn't a red around in firing or attacking distance? Also how can you get your evade shield up when you need to be in the simulation first?

Does that mean then that you have people camped out at HL's waiting for low levels to jack in and kill them before they've had the chance to apply their low end buffs and even evade shield? Hell... it's a wonder anyone uses HL's there at all....

/jackout is your friend I guess....

Message edited by Croesis on 12/27/2007 07:02:35.


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Vinia wrote:
Denary wrote:
The Leo wrote:
I logged today on my llv 16 on vector to see what the server is like 1 year after my last visit and I got killed 3 seconds after and remembered why I left the server for 1 whole year...
You left because you are perma flagged at level 16?? I'm sorry but thats bull if you're flagged and are going to get killed in 1 hit then generally you should have the good sense to keep your evade up and make sure there isn't a red around.

How exactly, when jacking in initially, do you make sure there isn't a red around in firing or attacking distance? Also how can you get your evade shield up when you need to be in the simulation first?

Does that mean then that you have people camped out at HL's waiting for low levels to jack in and kill them before they've had the chance to apply their low end buffs and even evade shield? Hell... it's a wonder anyone uses HL's there at all....

/jackout is your friend I guess....

There is hundereds of HLs out there, I am level 22 and have only been killed by a level 50 once (Outside of Mara C) and that was because I had to quickly go AFK while standing next to Sai Kung C.  A lot of the HLs youd never think of using on a non-hostile server are really useful when you get them on Vector.  If you do use a HL that has a hostile outside and they kill you, go to another, there is no way every HL you have at 16 has an hostile there.

I cant believe you wont play on a hostile server because you were attacked, jacking in to an HL and wondering if your going to come up to emptyness, friendlies or Hostiles is half the fun.  SMILEY




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Vinia wrote:
Denary wrote:
The Leo wrote:
I logged today on my llv 16 on vector to see what the server is like 1 year after my last visit and I got killed 3 seconds after and remembered why I left the server for 1 whole year...
You left because you are perma flagged at level 16?? I'm sorry but thats bull if you're flagged and are going to get killed in 1 hit then generally you should have the good sense to keep your evade up and make sure there isn't a red around.

How exactly, when jacking in initially, do you make sure there isn't a red around in firing or attacking distance? Also how can you get your evade shield up when you need to be in the simulation first?

Does that mean then that you have people camped out at HL's waiting for low levels to jack in and kill them before they've had the chance to apply their low end buffs and even evade shield? Hell... it's a wonder anyone uses HL's there at all....

/jackout is your friend I guess....
You know that there mostly aint hostiles at HLs like kedemoth C or Midian W? I mean if you are stupid enough to jack out at mara C then that is your problem.


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Vinia wrote:
Denary wrote:
The Leo wrote:
I logged today on my llv 16 on vector to see what the server is like 1 year after my last visit and I got killed 3 seconds after and remembered why I left the server for 1 whole year...
You left because you are perma flagged at level 16?? I'm sorry but thats bull if you're flagged and are going to get killed in 1 hit then generally you should have the good sense to keep your evade up and make sure there isn't a red around.

How exactly, when jacking in initially, do you make sure there isn't a red around in firing or attacking distance? Also how can you get your evade shield up when you need to be in the simulation first?

Does that mean then that you have people camped out at HL's waiting for low levels to jack in and kill them before they've had the chance to apply their low end buffs and even evade shield? Hell... it's a wonder anyone uses HL's there at all....

/jackout is your friend I guess....
Well first of all I call it "Lock onto closest enemy" The hotkey being either "c" or my personal favorite "Page up" Secondly if there isn't a red in the vicinity then I call up the fact that it should be very easy to click the icon or press the hotbar key for it whichever you may have it set to, in the case a red is there I would like to call up the fact that we have a very useful ability known as Hyper Jump, by pressing ctrl + space you instantaneously jump into the air and away from danger, because you have virtually no way of combating a level 50 most people find this acceptable.

People don't "Camp" generally unless you're heading to a PvP hot zone where there are some people continuously clicking the "nearest enemy" hotkey and waiting for a punt but generally it's not worth the time.

Finally as a level 26 on Syntax I've been killed more times than Solid due to accidental flaggings or running through one of those PvP area's and not noticing the flag came on.



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Denary wrote:
Well first of all I call it "Lock onto closest enemy" The hotkey being either "c" or my personal favorite "Page up" Secondly if there isn't a red in the vicinity then I call up the fact that it should be very easy to click the icon or press the hotbar key for it whichever you may have it set to, in the case a red is there I would like to call up the fact that we have a very useful ability known as Hyper Jump, by pressing ctrl + space you instantaneously jump into the air and away from danger, because you have virtually no way of combating a level 50 most people find this acceptable.

People don't "Camp" generally unless you're heading to a PvP hot zone where there are some people continuously clicking the "nearest enemy" hotkey and waiting for a punt but generally it's not worth the time.

Finally as a level 26 on Syntax I've been killed more times than Solid due to accidental flaggings or running through one of those PvP area's and not noticing the flag came on.
Don't patronize me. Not all of us have a nice speedy connection and quick loading computer. It usually take me about 3 seconds to even be able to move let alone activate any abs when jacking in or moving to another HL. Easily enough time for someone to target someone, root them and get them into IL before the code dissipates.

I am aware that there are a few HL's which can be used by a lvl 16 in Richland that aren't near any gangs that are around your level, and that the population of the server isn't as high as Recursion or Syntax so the possibility of there being a 50 standing there when you coalesce isn't high. I have a low level alt on Vector so I know what it's like to play there...

I just don't like the snotty attitude of people who belittle others who don't play there and who have their reasons for not doing so, reasons that people have no right to judge them for.

Message edited by Croesis on 12/27/2007 09:48:10.


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Vinia wrote:
Denary wrote:
Well first of all I call it "Lock onto closest enemy" The hotkey being either "c" or my personal favorite "Page up" Secondly if there isn't a red in the vicinity then I call up the fact that it should be very easy to click the icon or press the hotbar key for it whichever you may have it set to, in the case a red is there I would like to call up the fact that we have a very useful ability known as Hyper Jump, by pressing ctrl + space you instantaneously jump into the air and away from danger, because you have virtually no way of combating a level 50 most people find this acceptable.

People don't "Camp" generally unless you're heading to a PvP hot zone where there are some people continuously clicking the "nearest enemy" hotkey and waiting for a punt but generally it's not worth the time.

Finally as a level 26 on Syntax I've been killed more times than Solid due to accidental flaggings or running through one of those PvP area's and not noticing the flag came on.
Don't patronize me. Not all of us have a nice speedy connection and quick loading computer. It usually take me about 3 seconds to even be able to move let alone activate any abs when jacking in or moving to another HL. Easily enough time for someone to target someone, root them and get them into IL before the code dissipates.

I am aware that there are a few HL's which can be used by a lvl 16 in Richland that aren't near any gangs that are around your level, and that the population of the server isn't as high as Recursion or Syntax so the possibility of there being a 50 standing there when you coalesce isn't high. I have an alt on Vector so I won't say I won't play there...

I just don't like the snotty attitude of people who have a go at other who don't play there and who have their reasons for not doing so, reasons that people have no right to judge them for.
I don't have a nice speedy connection, 2Mb is what I'm supposed to get but its nearer to about 256Kb, Also I've been playing with a processor which won't go beyond the 50% margin, trust me my current build is crappy and MxO won't work altogether on my Vista machine, I have no trouble with jacking in every day at Mara C with no abilities loaded.



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eirik wrote:
Denary wrote:
The Leo wrote:
I logged today on my llv 16 on vector to see what the server is like 1 year after my last visit and I got killed 3 seconds after and remembered why I left the server for 1 whole year...
You left because you are perma flagged at level 16?? I'm sorry but thats bull if you're flagged and are going to get killed in 1 hit then generally you should have the good sense to keep your evade up and make sure there isn't a red around.
Heh, just proves that he is unable to handle the hostile element and is therefor unable to play on vector.
Couldn't have said it better.

If you don't want to die while doing PvE stuff, by all means stay on Syntax or Recursion. Every last one of us who is 50 on Vector had to go through it as well. Getting ganked is inherent of a Hostile server. The same thing happens to my level 56 Troll on World of Warcraft because I choose to play on a PvP server. Getting ganked brings a mandatory need to join a Guild, or in this case a Faction. You get support and you have someone handle the level 50 red that's doing the ganking.

On a non-hostile server, I'd blame the level 16 for getting ganked because that means they had to have flagged. On a hostile server, it is just another aspect of the game to keep you on your toes. In my opinion, it's one of the ONLY reasons to keep you on your toes as combat is just about how everything in this game of MXO is handled. Without the fear of getting owned, where's the suspense? It certainly isn't in most of the story (I won't say all, because some is in fact interesting).



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Vinia wrote:
Denary wrote:
The Leo wrote:
I logged today on my llv 16 on vector to see what the server is like 1 year after my last visit and I got killed 3 seconds after and remembered why I left the server for 1 whole year...
You left because you are perma flagged at level 16?? I'm sorry but thats bull if you're flagged and are going to get killed in 1 hit then generally you should have the good sense to keep your evade up and make sure there isn't a red around.

How exactly, when jacking in initially, do you make sure there isn't a red around in firing or attacking distance? Also how can you get your evade shield up when you need to be in the simulation first?

Does that mean then that you have people camped out at HL's waiting for low levels to jack in and kill them before they've had the chance to apply their low end buffs and even evade shield? Hell... it's a wonder anyone uses HL's there at all....

/jackout is your friend I guess....
It's hardly ever that bad, because most of the people who used to play on Vector are now on Syntax or Recursion. Chances are if you Jack In to any Hardline outside of Mara or Magog you will find a vacant spot. In fact, it's in my firm belief that the flagged level 16 immediately went to Mara to be remembered why he left. Nice way to remind himself. Go to the most hostile place on the server. I salute such intelligence.

Some safe spots in Vector are Chelsea NW (Dueling Grounds), Camon C (RP area), Tabor C (RP area), and Magog W (The Black Market's Hardline). They aren't always as friendly as I'd like you to believe, but they are certainly less hostile than Mara C which will more than surely remind you of why you've chosen to make flagging an option.



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Sidenote: Unnecessary buffing (with a ixnay on the health booster 3.0...ay for plausible deniability) is an epidemic on all three servers. 

Remove all buffs and heals from the game please.  Thank you.

 




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exsuscito wrote:

Sidenote: Unnecessary buffing (with a ixnay on the health booster 3.0...ay for plausible deniability) is an epidemic on all three servers. 

Remove all buffs and heals from the game please.  Thank you.

 

/twothumbsup =D

Either way, if you don't like being ganked your first mistake is making a character on vector, your second is not furiously tapping 'c' when you pop out of hardline, and or going to a HL with people around it (as noticed by the variated color of the name of the hardline in the list, this can also be used to run around HL attacking people =P).

Another good tip is to apply your title buff, shield and what not at some remote location then HL to wherver it is you were going.  Or you could do what i do and have your title buff ready to activate in your hotbar the second you pop out, shield second, hypers can be applied mid-fight =P


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Tenshi wrote:
Either way, if you don't like being ganked your first mistake is making a character on vector, your second is not furiously tapping 'c' when you pop out of hardline, and or going to a HL with people around it (as noticed by the variated color of the name of the hardline in the list, this can also be used to run around HL attacking people =P).

Another good tip is to apply your title buff, shield and what not at some remote location then HL to wherver it is you were going.  Or you could do what i do and have your title buff ready to activate in your hotbar the second you pop out, shield second, hypers can be applied mid-fight =P

Thanks, I'm quite adept at choosing an out of the way HL, but there is still no guarantee that there won't be a higher level there or in the vicinity. As I said, it take a few seconds for my computer to catch up with what is going on therefore preventing me from moving or activating anything. I'm not opposed to playing on Vector, I understand that there is a risk that is unique to that server, I only wanted to know if there were some out there who sit and wait specifically for low levels to pop out of a HL.


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Vinia wrote:
Tenshi wrote:
Either way, if you don't like being ganked your first mistake is making a character on vector, your second is not furiously tapping 'c' when you pop out of hardline, and or going to a HL with people around it (as noticed by the variated color of the name of the hardline in the list, this can also be used to run around HL attacking people =P).

Another good tip is to apply your title buff, shield and what not at some remote location then HL to wherver it is you were going.  Or you could do what i do and have your title buff ready to activate in your hotbar the second you pop out, shield second, hypers can be applied mid-fight =P

Thanks, I'm quite adept at choosing an out of the way HL, but there is still no guarantee that there won't be a higher level there or in the vicinity. As I said, it take a few seconds for my computer to catch up with what is going on therefore preventing me from moving or activating anything. I'm not opposed to playing on Vector, I understand that there is a risk that is unique to that server, I only wanted to know if there were some out there who sit and wait specifically for low levels to pop out of a HL.
No nobody does that, generally 50's will stand around hardlines, some will kill red lowbies some won't it's just a matter of luck basically if you jack into a hardline with a red there, personally I don't kill lowbies... generally



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exsuscito wrote:

Sidenote: Unnecessary buffing (with a ixnay on the health booster 3.0...ay for plausible deniability) is an epidemic on all three servers. 

Remove all buffs and heals from the game please.  Thank you.

 

QFT!!!!!!



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Vinia do you have green code turned off in your useropts?


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Tenshi wrote:
Vinia do you have green code turned off in your useropts?


I have my code turned off, but for some weird reason, very now and then, it takes a while to load building interiors and textures and stuff.  Comeing out of a HL, for a few seconds I get about 3 frames a second if I am lucky, so I can see where Vinia is comeing from SMILEY  In fact, I turned my code off once to have a look again, and it took about 2 minutes to fade away >_<

And yeah, I have never come across anyone waiting next to the HLs waiting for lower levels to kill, if you do come across one its usually that they were there doing something else and its just a bit of rotten luck if they get you.

I actually see more low level hunting on Sytax actually, I see some 50s standing near luggables they have places near a hardline waiting for a nieve lower level to pick them up not knowing that it flags you.


 
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