[9.2.2] He's afraid we might want it too - Vector - 1/23/08

**Garu**

machete wrote:

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know. Is this the thanks you get for serving the system? Keeping your operatives in the dark, and throwing them bones now and again to keep them loyal. Ah what beautiful lapdogs you guys have turned out to be. I would say you machinists are probably worse than those lapdogs that serve the merovingian.

Whose being holier than thou now, Machete?

Last I checked, Machines weren't the only ones smoozing up to the Intruder. At least we're doing it only to appease him so he doesn't wreck havoc on the system rather than hopelessly looking for another savior to your self-imposed dilemma with the Machines.

**Procurator**

machete wrote:

Its funny how the machinists love to throw their doctrine and holier than thou attitude around and they are the most hypocritical of all. They try to kiss The Intruder's *CENSORED* and get what they can from him, and when he blows them off, they attack him for no reason but "to protect the system and the bluepills connected to it."

I don't recall kissing the Intruder's posterior or trying to get anything out of him. At most we've been avoiding him.

machete wrote:

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know. Is this the thanks you get for serving the system? Keeping your operatives in the dark, and throwing them bones now and again to keep them loyal. Ah what beautiful lapdogs you guys have turned out to be. I would say you machinists are probably worse than those lapdogs that serve the merovingian.

Oh, look! Someone thinks we're mindless, obedient slaves! How original.

Christ, man, this was brought up in the thread below this one. It's the most uninspired, tiresome and cliched line of attack there is, and we've countered it probably a thousand times by now.

Pyraci

Procurator wrote:

Oh, look! Someone thinks we're mindless, obedient slaves! How original.

Christ, man, this was brought up in the thread below this one. It's the most uninspired, tiresome and cliched line of attack there is, and we've countered it probably a thousand times by now.

(Psst... That'll probably go on as long as the equally-cliché'd "All Zion and EPN are idiots" stereotype persists.)

**Procurator**

I don't subscribe to that view. Well, the EPN-are-idiots one, maybe, but they are lead by Popper after all.

Pyraci

Procurator wrote:

I don't subscribe to that view. Well, the EPN-are-idiots one, maybe, but they are lead by Popper after all.

Ah, but there are some Machinists that do fit the stereotype. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't true with some people, after all. But yeah. I guess as long as some hold stereotypes, others are liable to hold their own against them.

**machete**

Blah blah blah...

The trolls come out at night... The trolls come out at night....

Lets see.. Everyone who flamed me resides on OTHER server not Vector so your opinions don't matter here do they?

I was making my statements to those hypocrites who do one thing and say another (Vector Machines anyone?) , so if my comment stung you then I guess you are guilty too huh?

Relax people its JUST a game SMILEY

FLAME OFF!

Oh and if you persist in trying to attack me it will only make me look OVER your post even more SMILEY

**Procurator** · 01/25/2008 13:00:18

Pyraci wrote:

Ah, but there are some Machinists that do fit the stereotype. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't true with some people, after all. But yeah. I guess as long as some hold stereotypes, others are liable to hold their own against them.

Oh, certainly. I can think of a few Machinists who simply do as they're told, and that's just amongst the Syntaxians. But it's unfair to suggest we as a group are like that, especially when the accusation is paired with bizarre ideas like us kissing the Intruder's behind. That just suggests very poor observation.

(( PS: Machete, we're defending ourselves in-character. We're well aware it's a game. SMILEY

))

**machete**

Well I am know that on OTHER servers Machinists are more intelligent, but unfortunately you don't see what I have to deal with here on Vector. If you saw what happened at the previous machine event, and then saw what happened at this event you would understand why I said what I said. SMILEY

**Procurator**

(( H'mm, hah, okay. If you were just referring to Vectorian Machinists, I'll let you off. SMILEY

))

Croesis · 01/25/2008 13:07:16

machete wrote:

Lets see.. Everyone who flamed me resides on OTHER server not Vector so your opinions don't matter here do they?

I was making my statements to those hypocrites who do one thing and say another (Vector Machines anyone?) , so if my comment stung you then I guess you are guilty too huh?

((Opinions mattering are down to those reading but anyone can post here, most of us are in character when replying to these and any other RP threads so unless you state a specific group of people (Vector Machinists) then we can only take it that you include all Machinists from any instance. The story part isn't restricted to the one server it was played out in, but I see what you mean from your last post SMILEY

))

**machete**

I am sure you guys have your fair share of hypocrites residing on your perspective servers so you understand where I am coming from. I initially had Vector in mind when I posted so please don't take my message to heart all you fun-loving machinists. Not all of you are toasters or tools. But there are a big majority that are! SMILEY

**Synapse777** · 01/25/2008 14:53:03

((That event was a pile of .. I won't use much space for it here, but seeing those reds come over 1nce a month to shoot up our asses in mindless pvp and not backing off when we try to RP - I'm certain some of you here realize that's what some of us try to do in events by now - and then keeps shooting/hacking and just plainly messes up the event for the sake of "Kill the terrorits" GG... and a RSI sample of Shimada from Systematica to the Architect? *CENSORED* did I miss there? oh.. that's right another pvp event which looks cool here, no doubt, but was really bad ingame mostly under the talk with the Intruder tho, the rest was okay. So let me see, why don't we agree that on Vector we do RP, and maybe I should get that across to LESIG as well cause since Khepril left/kicked whatever, nothing much has happened on the server RP-wise. Me and Kevin from EPN caught Systematica redhanded in a Zion contruct and nothing has come from it, I find that a bit funny.. is there something Im not being told about here?... looks like it... but back to the event, and future events as well... Reds, back the f.. off and we'll promise as much as we can not to bust your events but if you want busting... it's coming, I leave it in your court... and to the ones we see 1nce a month... GG kids, hope you felt good after trashing yet another EPN event... oh *poop* I forgot... you were "invited".))

**Tytanya_MxO** · 01/25/2008 14:57:03

Well as you know I aim to displease.

Diversity remains the Merovingian trump card but also their cross to bear, no one appreciates that individuals in each org can differ in their approach and their ability. Indeed Exiles are routinely persecuted by machines exactly because they are different and individual, this Intruder arrived to a similar welcome but now miraculously (after abject failure) the machines want to play nice and chat. Historically what have we come to understand by the Machines approach to forming a mutual alliance out of need?

I have no delusions about myself or the organisation I work for, I claim no altruistic motivation for either - but is anyone seriously convinced that the best way to monitor that 1% figure in the truce was to invent a covert terrorist army? What secret organisation have they now waiting in the wings ready to do the exact opposite of what they would have us believe, or is that still what the cypherites are and why, as is conceded so many machinists appear to actively support them?

Edit Bah replied on the wrong thread but syn had already replied

**Synapse777**

Honest words, Tyt.

**Raviola**

Rarebit wrote:

Raviola wrote:
What are the name of Shimada's boots?
"Michael" and "Karl."

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