what was/is the Merovingians purpose?

MattRobson · 03/19/2007 15:19:16

what did the merovingian do as a progam before he was exiled? i recall him saying about he was there to traffic information and that it was his business to know. is this is original purpose or is this now his purpose he has given himself?

also what was Persephone's purpose was she like a cupid or something? her obsession with love and that everything is down to it, hints she was a program governing the emotion? or is she simply a referance to greek mythology? (the wife of hades)

what was the twins purpose as programs what did they do? they have the ghost like ability but the oracle said that all sightings of ghost aliens warewolfs etc were programs doign what they shouldnt be doing so is this just the matirxs 'glitching' the twins?

hopefully someone will know as i dont think the film's actually say what these important chracters did if it does i have totally missed it.

cesspool

I'm not sure about the Merovingian's original purpose, but if I remember correctly it was stated somewhere that Persephone's original purpose was to provide "inspiration" for collecting genetic material from bluepills, if you catch my meaning.

The twins probably come from the Ashencourt version of the Matrix, so honestly who knows. Seems like that version was created mainly to scare the crap out of bluepills.

MattRobson

I was thinking along them lines for the twins too, i was thinking maybe they were from the previous version of the matrix that was more grotesque and violent like the architect mentioned.

maybe the merv 6.0 missions shed more light on them? i haven't done them yet.

WGAnubis1

1. Its been assumed that the Merovingian could be an orginal One somehow or maybe a former Dues Ex Machina.

2. Presphone "claims" to be a program to study love but is more about the physical side.

3. The Twins seem likely to be former agent programs given their resilence to destruction.

MattRobson

hmm interesting points there. i cant see that merv is a previous One as they decripted the code and anaylsed him each time then reinserted his RSI when the matrix was restarted. but an interesting point.

**Zampano1981**

I'd strongly disagree with Merv being a former One, the evidence for such is based on a single line in the film "He was like you once" which, in my opinion, has no relevance to "The One". (Or alternatively the origin of the name and it's link to Christ, but still doesn't convince me as all former ones would have returned to the source otherwise Neo would never have come about)

At one point in time Merv must have been a program (The balance between Archie and Oracle: Architect as Creator, Merv as Maintainer, Oracle as Destroyer) loyal to the system, given his power he would likely have been on par with The Architect and The Oracle. However, we know at some point he chose Exile. I think of Merv as the Lucifer character in the film, once a loyal servant of God (Architect) but fallen and now ruler of the Hells (Hence Persephone, Hel).

RainKingX

MattRobson wrote:

what did the merovingian do as a progam before he was exiled? i recall him saying about he was there to traffic information and that it was his business to know. is this is original purpose or is this now his purpose he has given himself?
also what was Persephone's purpose was she like a cupid or something? her obsession with love and that everything is down to it, hints she was a program governing the emotion? or is she simply a referance to greek mythology? (the wife of hades)
what was the twins purpose as programs what did they do? they have the ghost like ability but the oracle said that all sightings of ghost aliens warewolfs etc were programs doign what they shouldnt be doing so is this just the matirxs 'glitching' the twins?
hopefully someone will know as i dont think the film's actually say what these important chracters did if it does i have totally missed it.

They...er he ruled. Persephone is a good story. They kill. The twins were doing what they were supposed to be doing. The Oracle's comment was directed at the Merv hence his mention afterwards.

betaprimus

I have heard the theory the merovingian was a backup program, sole purpose is to backup programs and code, when a new revision of the matrix comes out, and something does not work out, the machines tap the merovingian for their old version to fix the problem

the merv survives wipes of the matrix

say the program that controls gravity in matrix version 5 was bugged, the machines tap the merv for the gravity program from version 4 and modify it, the merv also keeps the bugged gravity program as well, and uses it for his own needs

Shadow Griever

The Merovingian states it himself

"It is my business to Know"

The Merv was probably some sort of Information program, maybe a type of RAM or archive or CPU that either controlled or was an essential component of the Hell Matrix. His job was to collect and use information, but being a self serving being, uses that information for himself. This explains his mastery of using the code for his own benefits

The Theory about the Twins being the Hell Matrix's version of the Agents makes a kind of sense. They do act similarly to the MiB version we all know like finishing each other's sentences, increasingly hard to kill, a certain uniformity in thier oufits.

**Illyria22**

I believe the Oracle once referred to the Merovingian as an operating system.

Illyria

**TheEx** · 03/19/2007 21:20:38

I believe that the Merovingian, is as someone mentioned earlier, on par with the Architect and The Oracle, perhaps a former overseer of a previous version of the Matrix. While I'm not sure what his role was, I think he was probably given the respect of the architect and the oracle, but being a selfish program I believe he fled to the Matrix because he realized that there he could be a god instead of being just an underling.

Concerning Persephone I had always assumed she must have been a succubus program from the apacolyptic version of the Matrix. The way she seems to draw energy/thought/emotion from the people she comes into physical contact with kind of screams succubus to me, also her name is greek in origin and so are succubi. Also the merovingian seems to have an affinity for programs from the Hellish version of the Matrix (perhaps that is the instance that he governed over).

The Twins, fairly obviously, are ghosts. Such as Cane and Abel are werewolves, I believe the twins must be ghosts. Again this goes back to the Merovingian's taste for programs from the horror show Matrix. They exhibit most of the ghostly abilities we might expect from your run o' the mill poltergiest, and as suggested by The Oracle, their power comes from the Matrix trying to make sense of them hacking the environment (programs hacking programs).

As to the original purpose of these odd exiles, I believe thats mostly up to imagination, as we don't have much insight into any of the instances that they came from.

TheArk

The General said he was an Operating System, probably replaced in function of regulation by The Oracle's system of choice, which would explain why he hates her so much.

Shadow Griever

The General was the OS of the Sentinels

cesspool

Shadow Griever wrote:

The Theory about the Twins being the Hell Matrix's version of the Agents makes a kind of sense. They do act similarly to the MiB version we all know like finishing each other's sentences, increasingly hard to kill, a certain uniformity in thier oufits.

I actually remember when I first saw them in the Reloaded trailer I thought they were the upgrades.

TheArk

Shadow Griever wrote:

The General was the OS of the Sentinels

Nooo, no. The General said that The Merovingian's original purpose was to function as an operating system, most likely over the hell Matrix.

And to join the others, I too have considered the idea of the Twins being just two of many of the Ashencourte version of Agents. However, it only leads me to wonder why we haven't seen any others, and if there are others, do they all look the same (white skin, silver hair/clothes) in order to maintain their ghost appearance?