So, if you know where the powerlines run, where are the datalines? Maybe they are the same? Ever thought about that?

-GG

Data and Power walking side by side?? The power line are not 5 Volts DC current, the interference on data if they walk side by side will be very huge.

Why you think the machine build the towers so far from the 01 city? Why not building inside their stronghold, wasting mile and mile of wire and work to bring the energy in 01?

Machine proof men to resist nuclear explosion in the past,  so what let them fear to build The towers with it's kind of "natural" energy withinn home?

And remember the simulation is a broadcast net, we exploit this "by air network" to send our pirate signal inside it.

Data and power surge will not go side by side, as electronic device and EMPD.

The key of the future is coexistence, equal right in a free world for men machine and exile, like Neo Dream, that sacrifice for all the three race.

So, if you know where the powerlines run, where are the datalines? Maybe they are the same? Ever thought about that?

Or that maybe they run alongside each other?  (Why bother building separate sets of cable lines that go in separate directions but then loop around to the same place?)

Illyria

kou_urake wrote:

The Machines are responsible for running and maintaining the Matrix - the reality in which the Bluepills live. Any harm to one inevitably affects the other.

This is not correct,

in fact  the true state of things is, that the machine are responsible for binding human race extracting from them the energy that the same machine need to continue exist. 

This is true - the same energy would go to waste - they aren't taking anything Humans would actually use.

Any harm to the power line mean let the machine know that they can't continue  exploits human race binding them in a big LIE, mean let them know that if they want use men they need to ask and not to take, mean that them have to act like they have equal right to exist  in the real than the men have, mean that a truce have to be an unconditionated truce, not a mockery like the one we left behind us.

Not even sure where to begin on this one. Yes, the Matrix is a lie - a lie that 99% of the people within are perfectly comfortable with accepting - why would you force a truth upon them that they wouldn't accept?  The Machines acknowle the human race's right to exist by their own existance - the Machines need us to survive.  You mistakenly associate their conflict with Zion and related insurgent groups as a conflict with the human race.  Remember that it was Zion's failure to inform its citizens of its illegal fortress that led to the end of peace - the Council's lies brought this upon them.

The key of the future is coexistence, equal right in a free world for men machine and exile, like Neo Dream, that sacrifice for all the three race.

Three? Humans, Machines... that's about it. But I do agree with you - it's a shame you're doing such a horrible way of expressing your desire/

Here is a 20mb video that I made for your enjoyment.

CLICKY-> CODE PULSE GROOVE

This experience will get us that much closer to shutting down the machines.  Rome wasn't built in a day.

~ Hydrazine

SEPET wrote:

kou_urake wrote:

The Machines are responsible for running and maintaining the Matrix - the reality in which the Bluepills live. Any harm to one inevitably affects the other.

This is not correct,

in fact  the true state of things is, that the machine are responsible for binding human race extracting from them the energy that the same machine need to continue exist. 

This is true - the same energy would go to waste - they aren't taking anything Humans would actually use.

Im sure that if i come every day extracting from u a quantity of blood that your body produce without asking  you the permission, just taking it you will be happy cause without extract it noone  could use it....

Any harm to the power line mean let the machine know that they can't continue  exploits human race binding them in a big LIE, mean let them know that if they want use men they need to ask and not to take, mean that them have to act like they have equal right to exist  in the real than the men have, mean that a truce have to be an unconditionated truce, not a mockery like the one we left behind us.

Not even sure where to begin on this one. Yes, the Matrix is a lie - a lie that 99% of the people within are perfectly comfortable with accepting - why would you force a truth upon them that they wouldn't accept?  The Machines acknowle the human race's right to exist by their own existance - the Machines need us to survive.  You mistakenly associate their conflict with Zion and related insurgent groups as a conflict with the human race.  Remember that it was Zion's failure to inform its citizens of its illegal fortress that led to the end of peace - the Council's lies brought this upon them.

Why don't let all the pod connected to choose if they want to stiil live in a Lie, there are million of people that can't never be aware of the simulation, if the machine really want to help humanity, have to transform what now is at all effect a cage, in a crysalis, but not for 1% for all, remeber human race have the right to live free than the machine have 

The key of the future is coexistence, equal right in a free world for men machine and exile, like Neo Dream, that sacrifice for all the three race.

Three? Humans, Machines... that's about it. But I do agree with you - it's a shame you're doing such a horrible way of expressing your desire/

Typically of a machinist mind..... you consider what is not a machine to be an inferior for of life... Exile are program that want still to live, program the machine choose to delete cause there is no mor use for them...

But the machine always act like this, they get, they take, without asking..... and u call "an horrible way of expressing your desire" what we do with our op???

I think the awful way to express the want of coexistence, is continuing to act like the machine are superior, like them have the righ to dispose of all men (yes you too starsch) like the want....

They need to know there is people here that not stay watch, they need to know Men are awake, and ready to fight for freedom!

"Remember we gave them a fight today"

That is Mr. Popper's battle call.

What he and those who serve his regime fail, or simply do not care to realize is they're waging war with the only organization truly interested in the survival of both races.

It was mankind who declared war on AI. It was mankind who destroyed the sky. It was mankind that broke the truce Neo created.

Man. Not Machine.

The planet is ruined, the nourishment needed to maintain organic life destroyed. The situation is so severe the remains of the human race have had to build their city as close to the Earth's core to ensure they have life sustaining temperatures.

What those of you under Mr. Popper's banner, as well as those of you serving under New-Zion, fail to comprehend is that those asleep in their pods live under the protection of the Machines. They're provided protection from the hardships and realities that are not easily carried by even the most seasoned of operatives. The Matrix is not a form of forced servitude; but an alternate reality in which life as we knew it is allowed to carry on. Humans do indeed provide the energy needed to maintain machine life, but that same energy provides power to the Matrix which in turn ensures the survival of the human race.

The Machines are not here to destroy us, nor force us into any kind of servitude. They simply provide the means necessary to exist and attacking the Machine city, like our ancestors before us, could potentially cause our race to finally meet its end. An end that has been avoided numerous times thanks to the Machines.

Surely if they willed it so the human race would be gone by now, but instead they continue to allow us chance after chance to evolve into more than a simple race of warmongers hell bent on re-establishing dominance over a dead world. We're allowed the continuance of Zion from iteration to iteration of the simulation in hopes of the ‘One' finding those truly capable and willing to work hand-in-hand with the machines to restore the planet and bring about a lasting peace between our two races.

So here I declare my retort to Mr. Popper and those of you belonging to EPN and New-Zion.

"Remember. The simulation continued is preservation of both the Machine and Human races."

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SEPET wrote: They need to know there is people here that not stay watch, they need to know Men are awake, and ready to fight for freedom!

The Commissioner responds: There is a difference between fighting for freedom and fighting for dominance. No further awakenings were to be allowed because New-Zion is bringing death upon those inside their city walls. Having removed free access to awaken blue-pills the Machines have ensured no further human casualties. Yes, men and women are awake.. but awake and aware, again, are different.

"Remember we gave them a fight today"

That is Mr. Popper's battle call.

What he and those who serve his regime fail, or simply do not care to realize is they're waging war with the only organization truly interested in the survival of both races.

It was mankind who declared war on AI. It was mankind who destroyed the sky. It was mankind that broke the truce Neo created.

Man. Not Machine.

Yes but not the actual men, it was B166er the first machine to kill a man, but i never think that all the machine are responsable of that death.... who is the first, who start it all.... this don't lead nowhere, what we have here is the actual mmachine are binding the actual men in chain , what let you think that you (machine)  can own the right to choose what is right or waht is wrong???  The truce where broken when machine find that they are loosing control of men, casue they want to be the dominator on planet surface.

The planet is ruined, the nourishment needed to maintain organic life destroyed. The situation is so severe the remains of the human race have had to build their city as close to the Earth's core to ensure they have life sustaining temperatures.

Why to not work together to clean the sky, maybe cause with the little excuse of "men can't manage byself their life", machine take the control above all?

What those of you under Mr. Popper's banner, as well as those of you serving under New-Zion, fail to comprehend is that those asleep in their pods live under the protection of the Machines. They're provided protection from the hardships and realities that are not easily carried by even the most seasoned of operatives. The Matrix is not a form of forced servitude; but an alternate reality in which life as we knew it is allowed to carry on. Humans do indeed provide the energy needed to maintain machine life, but that same energy provides power to the Matrix which in turn ensures the survival of the human race.

So why to not let choose EVERYONE to be aware... again lie that try to hide your need of control above all.... 

The Machines are not here to destroy us, nor force us into any kind of servitude. They simply provide the means necessary to exist and attacking the Machine city, like our ancestors before us, could potentially cause our race to finally meet its end. An end that has been avoided numerous times thanks to the Machines.

Maybe or maybe not... maybe when machine find to be not superior (like the men in past find themself), then they understand that not all need to be in  control of them to still exist 

Surely if they willed it so the human race would be gone by now, but instead they continue to allow us chance after chance to evolve into more than a simple race of warmongers hell bent on re-establishing dominance over a dead world. We're allowed the continuance of Zion from iteration to iteration of the simulation in hopes of the ‘One' finding those truly capable and willing to work hand-in-hand with the machines to restore the planet and bring about a lasting peace between our two races.

So here I declare my retort to Mr. Popper and those of you belonging to EPN and New-Zion.

 

"Remember. The simulation continued is preservation of both the Machine and Human races."

Yes but a preservation dominated by machine, men have the right to live free a choose them destiny not cotrolled by anyone 

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SEPET wrote: They need to know there is people here that not stay watch, they need to know Men are awake, and ready to fight for freedom!

 

The Commissioner responds: There is a difference between fighting for freedom and fighting for dominance. No further awakenings were to be allowed because New-Zion is bringing death upon those inside their city walls. Having removed free access to awaken blue-pills the Machines have ensured no further human casualties. Yes, men and women are awake.. but awake and aware, again, are different.

 

With an aware choice to ALL men in the simulation, no more bluepill casuality will affect the matrix, so now answer me who is fighting for dominance?

((powerline cause big interference on data signal when the wire is near each other, you can shield the data cable  but we are talknig bout very huge power line , very huge power, so very huge interference))

Next time you send men and women who trust you out into combat, you should be aware that we have many means of defense in the real world. Kid, does it get easier to make mistakes that cause your own people their doom... or harder?

GQubed wrote:

Next time you send men and women who trust you out into combat, you should be aware that we have many means of defense in the real world. Kid, does it get easier to make mistakes that cause your own people their doom... or harder?

Those who went, died knowing the risk involved. They died for what they believed in!

Havocide wrote:

GQubed wrote:

Next time you send men and women who trust you out into combat, you should be aware that we have many means of defense in the real world. Kid, does it get easier to make mistakes that cause your own people their doom... or harder?

Those who went, died knowing the risk involved. They died for what they believed in!

No. They went to deaths, fully aware that their plan would fail and that they would die. They were simply propelled by blind faith, and stirring words. Morale may be important, but I say Strategy takes precedent.

You can 'try and try again' but eventually you'll run out of hopeless devotees.