I feel sorry for that poor simulacrum, I really do. Imagine, having the thoughts and memories of someone else, even before you came into being. Yet now, look at how it's starting to grow. Oh it's hard to say it's growing and not get a laugh from some, yet look at the basics. It's not accepting "the truth" anymore.
Now, by that I don't mean about the Matrix, I mean just in how it goes about things. "The truth" in his mind is so flexible right now. All his life he's been told what is true, by memories that aren't his, by his creator and now by all of us. Who are we to tell the program the true value of right and wrong. Look where that has got us, a war that will probably never end.
The simulacrum isn't the one with the mental issues it's all of us. Each of us, spinning the truth to suit our needs and not his. Now we might truely see who is right and wrong, yet maybe we won't.
He is still learning, yet he will do what he sees as right in the end, not what we tell him is right.
So does this mean you are gonna let it decide for itself who it trusts more, and does that go for the entire Org? I can't see you taking the sidelines while every other Org tries to convince it, because one Org may find out exactly what it is wanting and may be able to offer it. You can't afford to allow it not to be you.
Ah you see, that is where things differ. I was there last week when we really did go out to try and find him to speak to him ourselves. Does it mean we're doing things the right way, well that's another matter entirely. Yet there are keys to his actions if you read enough of them.
Every org here can offer it everything you can think of, yet can you give him individuality and peace of mind with what he is?
You're right though, we can't offord for it to not be our group that it sides with, yet what if it decides to not side with anyone, why hasn't that been asked of it yet. Why not help him, rather than asking him to help us?
Niobe and her operatives were onto something the other day. Stop telling it what's going to happen if it joins one group over the other, ask it more about how it feels about things. Like I said, it's growing and learning, why else would it seek out the Oracle for guidance? For the lovely cookie service or more like what she's known for, helping those who are lost to find the path.
Honestly, I think the machines stand to lose as much as any of us, despite the appearance of viewing this particular situation from an advantage. As a matter of fact, there seems to be something internally, inherently keeping it from siding with the machines completely.
That I don't doubt, but do you really think that other Orgs will oblige an EPN and stop their attempts to convince it to side with them. I'm all for letting it decide for itself, but as you say, we Machinists could lose quite a lot, like everyone else. So what would the intelligent decision be, stop trying and watch other orgs in their attempts that may possibly succeed, or try anyway, knowing that all the other Orgs are doing exactly the same thing, in the hopes that your attempts may spark something in the mind of the sim before someone else does?
Fact of the matter is, if we did take your 'advice' and leave it alone, it would give you a far greater oppertunity to convince it. So the only way this is going to be resolved is if it comes to its own conclusion regardless or one org finds a way to get through to it before the others do.
Mnemasyne wrote:Honestly, I think the machines stand to lose as much as any of us, despite the appearance of viewing this particular situation from an advantage. As a matter of fact, there seems to be something internally, inherently keeping it from siding with the machines completely. That I don't doubt, but do you really think that other Orgs will oblige an EPN and stop their attempts to convince it to side with them. I'm all for letting it decide for itself, but as you say, we Machinists could lose quite a lot, like everyone else. So what would the intelligent decision be, stop trying and watch other orgs in their attempts that may possibly succeed, or try anyway, knowing that all the other Orgs are doing exactly the same thing, in the hopes that your attempts may spark something in the mind of the sim before someone else does?Fact of the matter is, if we did take your 'advice' and leave it alone, it would give you a far greater oppertunity to convince it. So the only way this is going to be resolved is if it comes to its own conclusion regardless or one org finds a way to get through to it before the others do.
Just remember what I said about it's internal, inherent programming.
If that's the case, you should reference what I said about manipulating it without it's consent...
I predict that if the sim does decide to help the Machines, Zion/EPN will attempt to delete him.
Illyria
One can easily predict the same from the Machinist side, however these predictions may be unfounded. Fear is a big motivator for all parties, but who knows, maybe for the sake of 'choice' EPN or even the Machines would leave it be if it went against their interests. Or perhaps not.
Unfortunately that's not likely. The simulacrum's existence has remained unhindered because it has chosen to remain neutral to the desires of each side. However, once a side is chosen then it's demise is unavoidable. Such is the way for us all.
I predict that if the sim does decide to help the Machines, Zion/EPN will attempt to delete him. Illyria
Illyria22 wrote:I predict that if the sim does decide to help the Machines, Zion/EPN will attempt to delete him. IllyriaOh my dear, you're forgetting my adopted mantra, "Bless all forms of intelligence" yes, and I mean even the silly lot that do keep trying to kill me! *chuckles*
