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[8.1.4] Mr. Manohar must be reconfigured - Recursion - 8/8/07
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Transcendent

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Garu wrote:

...Zion has already killed a blue pill.  Yeah we'd both be rich.

Weak.



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Tytanya_MxO wrote:
((The Mech org was the most convincing and defined organisation in MxO, while it did have a section of 'wannabe agents' valid rp'ers could evolve from the post Revolutions status pround and strong..... as far as I can tell via the early ludicrous situation with the Cyphs and Crytos through the broken truce to today every valid mech rp has been betrayed))
(( /thumbsup to Tytanya.  It's nice to see that Machinists aren't the only ones to see this.  We can only hope things turn around sooner than later, but I'm afraid much of the damage has been done. ))



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Shinryu wrote:
Tytanya_MxO wrote:
((The Mech org was the most convincing and defined organisation in MxO, while it did have a section of 'wannabe agents' valid rp'ers could evolve from the post Revolutions status pround and strong..... as far as I can tell via the early ludicrous situation with the Cyphs and Crytos through the broken truce to today every valid mech rp has been betrayed))
(( /thumbsup to Tytanya.  It's nice to see that Machinists aren't the only ones to see this.  We can only hope things turn around sooner than later, but I'm afraid much of the damage has been done. ))

((Agreed, I can only hope there is a dark sinister part of the story behind all of this to explain why killing him was the only course of action available, because I would not be happy if it was just a way to utilise the RSI pills as part of an LE))

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Shinryu wrote:
((Agreed, I can only hope there is a dark sinister part of the story behind all of this to explain why killing him was the only course of action available, because I would not be happy if it was just a way to utilise the RSI pills as part of an LE))
((Latest Machine Crit anyone?))



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Osterlind wrote:

The greatest good for the greatest number of people.

Yes, the death of Mr. Manohar was regrettable, the saving of many more is far from it. Operatives worked very well as a team and you should be proud of yourselves for your accuracy and efficiency. This does not mean, however, that it will not be worked upon further; you can be sure of that.

[ Osterlind ]

There were other ways.

Illyria wrote:

We're at war.  And in all wars, innocent people die.  There's no way around it, unfortunately.

 

Illyria

You think this is war? This isn't war. War has defined goals, and objectives. This is an extension of what we had before, with a higher degree of hate attached. This is bickering between the orgs of Zion and the Machines, and a steady game of "We're better tee hee". Zion can't awaken people...so they do it anyway "tee hee", Zion told the Mechs no to accessing their Mainframes, the Machines will do it anyway, "tee hee".

This *poop* is stupid to a high degree.

I wouldn't be so adverse to war.

If this were war, we'd all be killing every day, and no ones EJP would work.

If this were war, we would see the undertaking of missions that would have a lasting PSYOPs effect.

There are few things as unnerving as having one of your "top operatives" [IE;Ghost] being forced back to his hovercraft upon jacking in, via a high powered rifle.

This isn't war, but sometimes? I kinda wish it was.



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I must agree with Tytanya to a certain extent as well.  However we redpills still have choices to make.  You can leave the Machines behind to continue to try to regain their former method of control with the old endless cycle that prevents man, machine and program from evolving.  Or you can stay and play the sheep, following orders blindly.

Another alternative would be to continue working with them and try to set an example, one from which they may actually learn something positive from humanity.  It seems to me programs and machines are acting out only the negative things they have learned from their creator thus far.  I wish I had been there to stop the death of this human.  This so called excuse for war is paper thin if you ask me.  Zion moved, can anyone blame them?  The machines still have all their defenses in place and with the threat of the General and his Commando Sentinels in the real hovering over Zion, moving makes perfect sense.  The machines concidered this a threat.  I'm sorry I don't see it.  Zion moved further away from 01.  How is this a threat?

(I'd also like to point out that the story is involving more and more events that happen in the real, fully removing subscribers from the continuing story.)

The Daemon Contingency will be there, ever vigilant, stemming the loss of life and trying to set an example for all.  The things you are fighting for are pointless when you really think about it operatives.


Message edited by Praey1 on 08/10/2007 11:21:15.



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odj wrote:

Shinryu wrote:
((Agreed, I can only hope there is a dark sinister part of the story behind all of this to explain why killing him was the only course of action available, because I would not be happy if it was just a way to utilise the RSI pills as part of an LE))
((Latest Machine Crit anyone?))

(( The latest critical mission notwithstanding, there was no reason that we can see for actually killing the original Bluepill. He was replaced by another Bluepill or RSI with a program. They could have achieved that by relocating Manohar, renaming him, detaining him or anything along those lines. ))



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So ....actually killing bluepills now...come on now...Protecting our race? You machinists need to learn from the machines. They cannot be trusted and just as the ended this inocent bluepills life so they will one day yours.



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...

odj


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Procurator wrote:
odj wrote:

Shinryu wrote:
((Agreed, I can only hope there is a dark sinister part of the story behind all of this to explain why killing him was the only course of action available, because I would not be happy if it was just a way to utilise the RSI pills as part of an LE))
((Latest Machine Crit anyone?))

(( The latest critical mission notwithstanding, there was no reason that we can see for actually killing the original Bluepill. He was replaced by another Bluepill or RSI with a program. They could have achieved that by relocating Manohar, renaming him, detaining him or anything along those lines. ))
((thinking like the machines do, that would have taken to much time and been inefficient, much more simple and quick just to kill him))



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RetroX wrote:
So ....actually killing bluepills now...come on now...Protecting our race? You machinists need to learn from the machines. They cannot be trusted and just as the ended this inocent bluepills life so they will one day yours.

The Machines are not going round on a murderous rampage, it was a single bluepill. I don't think they would require additional sacrifices as the plan was thought out efficiently. Obviously it is regrettable it had to be an innocent bystander to the war.  Your statement, however, about The Machines killing us is without evidence, killing Machinists would be a waste of resources.

I for one am concerned about Pace's abruptness when it came to the act, seeing as she was programmed to be more Humanesque, or at least be able to appear more Human.. I wonder if we are starting to see the effects of the untuned killcode used on her...

Message edited by Croesis on 08/10/2007 12:12:54.



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We were there, and we know what happened.

If "Navin Manohar" hasn't already been terminated, he will be shortly. If he was extracted, whoever did it ought to be shot after all of the communication we put out about this attrocity, or, at least, they won't be running extractions again very soon.

((Seriously... operations get compromised...  You can't just ignore the bulk of Zion and pretend we weren't there. We don't forget.))




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Neoteny wrote:

We were there, and we know what happened.

If "Navin Manohar" hasn't already been terminated, he will be shortly. If he was extracted, whoever did it ought to be shot after all of the communication we put out about this attrocity, or, at least, they won't be running extractions again very soon.

((Seriously... operations get compromised...  You can't just ignore the bulk of Zion and pretend we weren't there. We don't forget.))


You'll have to make sure all of your illegal extraction teams get the memo, but then... there are sometimes problems when sending messages...



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Ebola wrote:
Barbaric... truely barbaric.
Quite effective, too.  The ends justify the means.


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First of all, let me state my stance on this. I may not agree with the killing of the bluepill and I do wish there had been a way around it. However I can see the reasoning behind it and am safe in the thought that the machines had calculated this as the most efficient and safe way to go about things.

[ Osterlind ]


Message edited by Osterlind on 08/10/2007 12:56:31.
 
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