EPN and their failure

pyro102

Today Cryptos made a visit to the Matrix to meet with the Cypherites. We all heard it blah blah Cypherite this Cypherite that. When he was leaving Zion operatives and Merovingian operatives banned together probaly for the last time to defeat him. He was almost deleted when EPN in their failure to communicate started attacking Merovingian operatives instead of Cryptos and the Cypherites ruining any attempt at ridding the Matrix of Cryptos once and for all. I and many others had Cryptos in our sites for a Sniper Shot to the head when he had 200 health left then EPN turned on us.

So Zion I ask you do you really want to be associated with people who can do a simple thing as fight one man. These are people whos leaders say they are against Cryptos then turn around and protect him as he is trying to escape.

Today's failure falls on no one man or faction. It falls on one group called E! Pluribos Neo and their absolute failure to follow a simple plan.

Nicholas_Stephanopolis

Real knowledge is to know the extent of ones ignorance. (Confucius)

**Tytanya_MxO**

In truth EPN and Cypherties are mutually dependant, neither has any real goal to achieve, both are driven by revenge, both actively pursue a future already clearly proven to be impossible.....that one is led by a child and the other a raving lunatic does kinda give the hint that they cannot be trusted and should not be supported.... wisdom in either Zion or Machine ranks would seem to be in preciously short supply!

**PBlade**

Cryptos is no program. All that your defeat would have served as would be a victory of principle.

**Degu**

Ok so we all agree that EPN's goals simply can't work. Also to an extent I agree with you about my own organisation, our goals can't work entirely, but Cryptos isn't a lunatic, all me and my brothers fight for is to give those who want to return to their pods a second chance, not everyone is content with the real world. The machines may have enslaved us all but they gave us a new home in doing so, why live in a cold and harsh wasteland i nthe desert of the real when we have a perfectly stable world to live in.

I know you won't agree with me so don't bother pointing out why my beliefs are wrong and yours are so right, note how i'm not saying your beliefs are wrong, i respect everyone's beliefs though I don't believe in them myself, so respect my beliefs because in the end, all that matters is that we survive no matter which way to salvation is right.

PanikKontrol

Degu is right. Many people in this artificial world fight for the same cause, regardless of their orginizational affiliation. We all want to have a purpose. To some, their purpose is power. To others, knowledge. And others still, choice.

He says they fight to give people a choice. Who then, is his enemy? Not those who follow the Merovingian surely. We are content in our choice, and the diverse purposes we have chosen within ourselves. Why then, do we try to stop these Cypherites? What do we have to gain by fighting them. They are merely providing those who want to chose the bluepill a means to that end. Did we not chose the red pill when it was our time?

And speaking of that small little red pill, why do those who push it do so with such... cultish fanaticism. Our enemy is not Machine, they stabilize this system. It is not Cypherites, for they only seek to provide an alternative to the endless struggle in which we are now engaged. The more they put to sleep, the less chaotic the Matrix becomes, and the less resitance to our goals as an Orginization, my dear Merovingian followers.

We are the most diverse, the most adaptive, the strongest, the quickest. When we look at the picture as a whole, it is not us who are trying to dirupt the plans of our good blue pill neighbors, it is the seething, clawing, blind masses of Zion and "EPN" that hinder all of our goals; be it Merovingian, Machine, or Cypherite.

Fromal truces have been tried, and they always fail. I am not suggesting an alliance, rather, and understanding of our like goals. Individuals will do as they see fit, but if enough of us can realize the greatest common enemy to us all; those who wish to sleep will dream; those who wish for power will have controol; and those who wish to destroy everything, including themselves, will have their destruction.

**Degu**

Yeh ur right there Crucifus, people just can't understand our goals because they just don't know them.

Try understanding our goals before you go joining sides with zion.

Do you not understand that we are not Sleepwalkers, we pose no threat to the system. It is E Plurbius Neo that do so, not us, so why do you join sides with them to defeat the lesser of two evils?

You have no reason to want to attack us so why bother, Merovingians should be helping us, not helping zions to try and remove Cryptos for no reason other than you have no understanding what he does so you decide that rather than risking it, you had better attack.

Well here's news for you, we're not here to put everyone back in their pods because we just can't do that...

We merely give those who want a second chance at being in their pod, what is wrong with that? We don't ruin your operations do we? That was the sleepwalkers....Not us.

Oh and appologies to the members of immortallis, we only removed you because we thought you were trying to spy on us which you probably were :smileywink:

Anyway, don't judge your enemy till you know what they fight for.

Thankyou...

Degu

PanikKontrol

Listening Degu. Spying implies wrongful use of information. SMILEY

Oh, and we shouldn't be helping you specificly so much as we should all be... helping each other?

Message Edited by Crucifus on 04-28-2006 04:11 PM
Message edited by PanikKontrol on 04/28/2006 15:11:58.

**Degu**

You know what I mean. I lose my meaning sometimes when I post that much information at once :smileywink:

**-Mercidos-**

I think the problem people seem to have with our org is that they assume we are "evil" that we are the bad guys forcing people back into pods. Now ideally all would return, but that just isn't feasible. We offer a choice to those who want to go back. The problem is that we have to some how ensure that they aren't reawakened. This is why we are forced to fight those in Zion, and more specifically those of the E Pluribus Neo organization. Those EPN followers are hell bent on waking up everyone, and that includes people that don't want the "gift" of being awakened.

Sometimes people forget that the matrix is a gift given to us by a form of life we humans created and then tried to wipe out. We ruined our world and the machines gave us a new one, true it's not perfect but they tried that as well. Merovingian operatives are not really a problem to us, as they are not going out and waking up blue pills. The only people waking anyone up are zionites and thier sub-org EPN.

I am not proposing an end to hostilities between merovingian and cypherite operatives, but just hoping to show people what it is we are doing. Others are fighting, choosing to fight, for whatever it is they believe in. Meanwhile we are being forced into fights for what we believe in. This is why you will hear me stress that we are after a true solution for peace where I believe others may not be. Degu has basically made every point I have discussed, but I just wanted to reiterate it for everyone.

Message Edited by Desc1ple on 04-29-2006 02:59 AM
Message edited by -Mercidos- on 04/29/2006 01:59:32.

**Degu**

Yeh exactly, we hit the point on the head. We're not people with no goals, true they're not real goals because they have no real end to them, but our goals are more feasable than EPNs ones.

So why work with them to destroy the lesser of the two evils, you have no reason to. We used to be ally to the Merovingian, now i don't quite understand how the misunderstanding happened which forced are alliance to end. But that's no reason to want to kill us over zion and EPN.

**Tytanya_MxO**

At the meeting in question Cryptos himself told his troops to 'attack the supporters of the Merovignian', the choice was his and the consequnce is apparent...if he isnt a lunatic then at the very least his judgement needs to be questioned, likewise the judgement of the EPN factions should be closely examined.... in both cases a conscious descision was made which had the sole effect of undermining everything either one of you claims to work for.

Haelios

Cryptos is the wisest man in the Matrix. If he told us to attack the followers of the Merovingian, it's because he knew there was no alternative, they would have attacked us anyway, Cryptos only wanted to throw the first stone.

We were victorious, proof that E Pluribus Neo and the Merovingian cannot put aside their differences to tackle a common enemy. You would be wise to not make this mistake again.

**PBlade**

You cannot expect a radical group to follow a procedure of reasoned
thinking. It's rational, it's sensical, and it's a step in the right
direction. Thus, radical groups such as E Pluribus Neo would never follow them!

**Degu**

He ordered us to attack because he blatantly knew that you were going to work with zion to try and remove us on the way out so yeh, I have to agree with Haelios, he simply threw the stone before you could.