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Oh yeah I'm sorry. I forgot that after what, five or six months that we have been useing these things that there have just be so many cases where they have torn the system to shreads and done so much damage to it. Alas I can't seem to find any notes on that so if you could please direct me to somewhere that I can find this mountiain of evidence that CPDs hurt the system I would be in your debt.But ya have to wonder now. If these things are so bad why are the Machines useing them in there own playground?
Oh yeah I'm sorry. I forgot that after what, five or six months that we have been useing these things that there have just be so many cases where they have torn the system to shreads and done so much damage to it. Alas I can't seem to find any notes on that so if you could please direct me to somewhere that I can find this mountiain of evidence that CPDs hurt the system I would be in your debt.
But ya have to wonder now. If these things are so bad why are the Machines useing them in there own playground?
*cough* That was a response test for Machininst operatives to see how we operated when faced with a random terrorist situation. In fact, this particular scenario was actually designed by the Tetragrammaton and was only one of several options that were submitted to Agent Gray.
Agent Gray: "Had this been an actual terrorist threat rather than an exercise, hundreds of citizens might have perished."
Looks like a CPD and has to be defused as a CPD must be a...
Test or not doesn't change the fact that CPDs were used. Infact it only prove my point that they are so harmless that yoru own orgnazation would use them in a drill.
Looks like a CPD and has to be defused as a CPD must be a...Test or not doesn't change the fact that CPDs were used. Infact it only prove my point that they are so harmless that yoru own orgnazation would use them in a drill.
Your taking a training exercise for its face value. A simulated CPD use was used to test Machinist responce times to various factors including information gathering/planning/execution times. The training program did not use an actual CPD, but rather a simulated varient. It was a fake, designed to feel like the real thing, like all good training programs should. You cannot claim that the machinist using a simulated training exercise shows the inherent "non-dangerous" nature of something, when it was not a legitiment CPD being used. A misunderstanding on your part, I'm sure.
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Oh, but NightTrace, not everyone is as quick as you to jump to the conclusion of massive weapons delivery.
This is true, but better to prepare for the worst, especially when I'm speaking of your misguided children. To many times they have shown themselves more then willing to sacrifice the lives of blues in the name of what they -beleive- to be a dead mans will. How long before they switch stances to a more militent view ala Morpheus and the idea sparks in their minds to use these CPDs as the delivery system for a simulation wide attack on core code streams, communications nodes etc? What if no one had thought of it before, and we had no plans in place? Now, we will have no such moment. Any CPD use, intent not important, will be treated as an open act of aggression and met with force.
I promise you, it is that exact line of thought... "preventative measures via overkill" that started this war in the first place, when the first massive agressions were launched against the Machines by mankind in "self-defense, before they got any 'bright ideas.'"
There is a difference between preventative measures via overkill and what I have publicly stated. Preventative measures via overkill would be faking a Morpheus broadcast so that we could lure Mr Chandler to the area, shut down all exits in the area, and have a three man team of Agents deal with him once and for all, kill code ammo and all. Meanwhile, an entire squad of Security Troopers would swarm the area and lay down suppresive fire onto the other gathered EPN, and force the popping of EJPs on the entire crowd. Zeissman wrote:
Somehow I thought you were smarter than that. Remember, if you destroy a nation, that nation will never rise against you... but if your own nation encounters a plague, the nation you destroyed may have had the vaccine.
And if you allow radicals to take military actions against you in your own country with out responce, then you will fail as a nation.
GamiSB wrote:Looks like a CPD and has to be defused as a CPD must be a...Test or not doesn't change the fact that CPDs were used. Infact it only prove my point that they are so harmless that yoru own orgnazation would use them in a drill. Your taking a training exercise for its face value. A simulated CPD use was used to test Machinist responce times to various factors including information gathering/planning/execution times. The training program did not use an actual CPD, but rather a simulated varient. It was a fake, designed to feel like the real thing, like all good training programs should. You cannot claim that the machinist using a simulated training exercise shows the inherent "non-dangerous" nature of something, when it was not a legitiment CPD being used. A misunderstanding on your part, I'm sure.
Show me exactly where it says the CPDs were simulated. Gray says it was a training excersise yes but not that the devices used were not real CPDs.
GamiSB wrote:Show me exactly where it says the CPDs were simulated. Gray says it was a training excersise yes but not that the devices used were not real CPDs.It was made clear on private Syntax Machinist channels, to which you don't have access. You'll just have to take our word for it - or use common sense. You do have that, right?
It was made clear on private Syntax Machinist channels, to which you don't have access. You'll just have to take our word for it - or use common sense. You do have that, right?
Not my statment and actully I was the first on this thread to point out just that. This whole argument was mostly just a round about way to prove it and that just because a CPD looks and acts like a bomb doesn't mean that it is.
But really I have stoped careing wether or not the Machines like our code pulse devices and untill they can give a real reason why we shouldn't use them then that stance wont change. Call them code bombs call them whatever but untill you can back up your statment expect us to keep calling you out on it.
*edit* Now that I think about it a bit further, the very fact that nothing is what it is means that we all SHOULD question, should be sceptic, and should never take anythig as it is unless prove to be that.
Willingness to hand out code bombs and CPDs? What are you talking about?
First off while we do make them we don't make them in bulk. There isnt a Walmart for CPDs and it cost alot of info and resources to make and compile the code.
Second every CPD to be used Im sure has to be cleared by Michael himself seeings as every time one has been set off he or shimada have been there to inform everyone on it. I know a few people who have requested permision to obtain one but every such case has been denied.
Thrid TaeCross' source has never been found so unless you have some sort of proof that says he was given the code bombs by Michael then I would kindly ask that you refrane from make such statements that have no shread credibility within them.
Lastly they copy data. They don't bring back the dead.
You didnt quite catch my sarcasim. When I say they've been used to bring "Morpheus back from the Dead", that is sarcasim. They dont copy data either, they have been used to bring old data back to the "top of the pile" so to speak. So -far- that is what they have been used for.
Was replying to Zippy's comment about bringing back the Assassin and actully you would be incorrect in saying they do not copy. Well so am I because it simply just reads and transmits. Some things can be sent straight to the HvCFT but other only make it as far as the surface of the Matrix.
And it isn't there only use as EPN has used them for other operations such as the one Pigeon mentiond as well as being able to transmit to us data from highly secured mainframes.
