Unidentified broadcast - 7/20/07

**Conrac** · 08/11/2007 19:51:23

I'm stuck ... I can't figure out how to generate a time parameter to localize the data nodes .. Perhaps this message from Strayshot will help somebody figure it out.

Hey Bro,

I know you're a bit out of my league and all, but I thought of something and I figured I'd run it by you, y'know.

Call me old-fashioned, but you ever think about using a simple map? I know you guys are all smarter then me,

but in the past, y'all have gotten carried away with your fancy technical stuff when the simple solution was already there,

ya dig ?

**PS10N** · 08/11/2007 21:37:14

Let's assume that a node can appear at any X,Y,Z within the bounds of the coordinates of the district. For example let's say a spherical node with a radius of 1 spawns at every whole number X, Y and Z. We would have something like this:

Something interesting happens in this configuration, based on "natural numbers" and "mathematical constants." Ancient architects, artists, artisans and uhm... masons knew all about these proportions and used them as the basis for their work.

If the nodes propagate along these geometries, we may have all the information we need, once we determine which geometrical pattern the nodes follow and its orientation.

Taking these proportions to their ultimate conclusions yield results like these:
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If you want to delve into this aspect of 4D propagation of 3D solids, you can google things such as:
sacred geometry
metatron's cube
natural numbers
natural logarithms
flower of life
mathematical constants
golden proportion

**mantra777**

How many data nodes are we trying to look for anyways in order to get the location we seek?

**PS10N**

PAMELA has a new, fifth image, which, to answer Mantra's question, gives us five nodes to work with, though the data is incomplete for each one. I think, like before, it's a simple, simple solution and we're all looking for the big complicated one. ((As much as I would like to think sacred geometry was worked in to an MxO puzzle, I doubt they have heard of the natural logarithm e before )) This is something along the lines of what we would usually look at after an event:

**mantra777**

PS10N wrote:

PAMELA has a new, fifth image, which, to answer Mantra's question, gives us five nodes to work with, though the data is incomplete for each one. I think, like before, it's a simple, simple solution and we're all looking for the big complicated one. ((As much as I would like to think sacred geometry was worked in to an MxO puzzle, I doubt they have heard of the natural logarithm e before )) This is something along the lines of what we would usually look at after an event:

interesting as i've thought of a similar trajectory of what you've shown there using the data nodes required but it is a bit more complicated as is. though i haven't plotted them.

**Bayamos** · 08/12/2007 16:29:08

two of the images have co-ordinates listed which are "incorrect" or not reflective of the image shown.

i.e the fifth's image is the right-hand wing of the Abandoned Subway, yet the co-ords in the [ ] are wrong for the Abandoned subway. Going to those coords in all districts yields apparently nothing. hmm.

**GypsyJuggler** · 08/12/2007 22:54:02

Does anyone have an unmarked copy of that map? It looks handy :)

Someone's made it easy for us and put two images in close proximity. We now have two sets of vectors pointing to the nearby nodes and can identify which is which. I'm gonna go jack in and see what I can figure out.

Edit: Okay Bayamos is right about not being able to reach the 5th set of co-ordinates and that throws doubt on the usefulness of any of them :/

**Ballak**

I thought I'd take a shot at this puzzle, but I think my brain just exploded from reading this thread.

o_o

**Neoteny** · 08/12/2007 23:15:52

PS10N wrote:

PAMELA has a new, fifth image, which, to answer Mantra's question, gives us five nodes to work with, though the data is incomplete for each one. I think, like before, it's a simple, simple solution and we're all looking for the big complicated one. ((As much as I would like to think sacred geometry was worked in to an MxO puzzle, I doubt they have heard of the natural logarithm e before )) This is something along the lines of what we would usually look at after an event:

Pardon, but if I recall correctly, that's the image which showed the radial triangulation Steelle used to locate the site of a Morpheus appearance from Code Pulse Bombs.

I believe this image is hinting that the system used for triangulation may be similar to the system used at that time.

I may also recall that the points where the code pulses were set off were given, as was the range for each pulse. Perhaps this suggests that the frequency of each transmission is a term for the radius.

Best of luck and regards,

Publius,
E Pluribus Neo

**GypsyJuggler**

Neoteny wrote:

I may also recall that the points where the code pulses were set off were given, as was the range for each pulse. Perhaps this suggests that the frequency of each transmission is a term for the radius.

It'd be nice if this were true but I don't think it is. If you look at the frequencies in the Sai Kung picture you'll see why.

Anyway, I just went and tried tracing one of the Vectors manually but it looks like that's going to be far too inaccurate a method to give us anything useful, not to mention only supplying data for two out of three axes. Even if we could trace the vectors exactly we'd still be missing what frequency to input. Now I feel like I knew less than when I started :/

**PS10N** · 08/13/2007 23:40:02

Just to clear up any confusion, the map I posted was from a previous EPN event predicting where the "Morpheus" signal would next appear. It was only meant to be an example of a "simple map" like Strayshot suggested. It is not the fifth PAMELA image, all of which can be found here.

Someone asked for the simple map without the RGB circles. I did a quick and dirty version; it's not perfect because doing color filtering requires an RGB palette mode and the original GIF was, of course, a 256 color fixed palette. I should offer a huge $info reward for anyone who makes a large-scale accurate map of the megacity with the coordinate grid overlaid. I know Conrac started one; so have I; so have others. Maybe there are more projects we should be collaborating on....

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**mantra777**

That would be nice but then districts have their very own (origin) coordinates. If we only have a Single origin coordinate for the whole megacity, it would have been much much easier to do.

**Conrac**

New Pamela feed came in today ...

New site is in an apartment in Guiness Lake ... It turns of that these two new node bearing lines exactly intersect in 3d two of the bearing line in the Kedemoth image....

One intersection point is at 1417, 21, -1052 near the east edge of the city in Midian Park ... It is in an apartment building on the 6th Floor, just outside the elevator.

Inspecting this point as a data miner revealed nothing out of the ordinary.

The two outgoing frequencies are 1100.4549 from Guiness Lake and 560.6091 from Kedemoth.

Factors are 3x53x67x1033 and 3x3x3x3x67x1033 respectively.

Time parameters in the bearing line equaton where 4 and 2 respectively.

The other intersection point is at -963,1,-788 near the west edge of the city in Guiness Lake... It is in an alley between two apartment buildings .. once again data mining scan revealed nothing out of the ordinary.

The two outgoing Frequencies that met at this point where 596.3485 from GL and 502.7070 from Kedemoth.

These Frequencies factor as 5x11x11x9857 and 2x3x5x17x9857 from those locations.

Time parameters where respectively 2 and 4 from those locations.

Thus far the Adelia query frequency(s) have eluded me .. time to dust off your calculators and come up with some frequency ideas.

As Dr. Raj so eloquently stated .. good luck to my friends, Bad luck to my enemies .....

Take care,

Con

**GypsyJuggler** · 08/14/2007 20:46:52

So we have four sets of vector frequencies pointing to four different nodes and we just have to figure out how each set relates to its node frequency?

So to pseudocode:
NF1=f1(560.6091)=f2(1100.4549)
NF2=f3(502.7070)=f4(596.3485)
and;
NF3=f5(777.8876)=f6(1498.7916)
NF4=f7(456.8778)=f8(623.1885)

How did you work out those coordinates though? If you apply that to the Roger's Way vectors we could have two more locations to look at.

**Conrac** · 08/15/2007 05:23:56

I have cross checked each of the bearing lines with the others each time a new image comes in. As others and yourself have mentioned each district must be handled separately as the coordinates are relative to the district and not absolute.

To find the intersection one assumes that each bearing line points to the same target so that the equations

Xt=X1+A1*T1 Yt=X1+B1*T1 Zt=Z1+C1*T1

and

Xt=X2+A2*T2 Yt=X2+B2*T2 Zt=Z2+C2*T2

can be set equal to one another

X1+A1*T1=X2+A2*T2

Y1+B1*T1=Y2+B2*T2

Z1+C1*T1=Z2+C2*T2

Now if we multiply the top equation by C1 and the bottom by -A1 and add the two equations we get

C1*X1-A1*Z1=C1*X2-A1*Z2+C1*A2*T2-A1*C2*T2

The only unknown here is T2 .. so the equation can be rearranged as

T2=(C1*(X1-X2)-A1*(Z1-Z2))/(C1*A2-C2*A1)

likewise T1 can be expressed as

T1=(C2*(X1-X2)-A2*(Z1-Z2))/(C1*A2-C2*A1)

Now one plugs the values of T1 and T2 back into the original equations and sees if the Xt,Yt & Zt for both bearing lines is the same.

Algebra is your friend .. Stay awake in class!

Con