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Jacked Out

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I own a PS3 too, but I'm a multiplatformer not a console fanboy... so I'm posting this for our PS3 fanbois!

http://kotaku.com/5110889/littlebig...ales-disappoint

Couple of sad stories for you today, PS3 owners. One involving a cute little title that should never have been thrust into the limelight as a system seller. The other, a gorgeous tactical RPG.

Let's start with LittleBigPlanet, then. Media Molecule's quirky, original platformer was always going to be a struggle to sell to the holiday masses, what with it being an original IP that involved neither rock music nor guns. But even Sony's most pessimistic sales teams wouldn't have been prepared for this.

The game sold an OK-ish 205,000 units in October, but wasn't out for that long. It'd do a lot better in November, when it was on sale for all four weeks, right? No. It sold a disappointing 141,000 units for the month, which saw it slip out of NPD top 20 charts altogether.

Lord only knows how few copies it would have sold had it not been marketed to hell and high water. Then again, maybe that was the game's problem. The game itself is fine, as its "failure" is a relative one. Selling 346,000 of a niche, debut IP with novel concepts would otherwise have been a huge success!

But selling 346,000 copies of your most high-profile holiday release? That is not a success.

The second game we're looking at today is an even sadder tale. Valkyria Chronciles is one of the best-looking games of this hardware generation, and although tactical RPGs of the Japanese variety aren't big sellers, it still would have been nice to see it move more than 33,000 copies in North America for the month of November.

33,000 means the game wasn't even in the top 100-selling titles for the month. Meaning it probably got beaten by some Imagine: and Nancy Drew games. So sad.

Quality PS3-exclusive titles are few and far between these days, so why were two of the best for the holiday season such poor performers? PS3 owners? Suggestions?



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Why would I buy a PS3 just to play MGS4, or a Gears of War 2 knock-off (not that GoW2 is anymore original), or a significantly repetitive RPG, or possibly a customizable platforming game? I think the reason it didn't sell, is because a lot of people really don't want to buy a game system that really isn't worth it at this time.

So far the library of games that are actually worth playing is extremely low/poor compared to the Xbox (leaving the Wii out of this since it's a different demographic). Blu-Ray is great, you know, in the future (WHICH IS A LIE CREATED BY LIBERALS TO KILL US, I MIGHT ADD) but that will take time for the general populace to adjust to the new platform of DVD's and the majority of media present on DVDs is greater than the Blu-Ray media by tenfolds.

LittleBigPlanet had huge hype, and then there was some huge drama some where along the lime, because of, "LOL COPYRIGHT LEVELS, BALEETED". Overall though, it's not something I find myself playing hours on end. A casual game for casual people might not find the PS3 such a great casual investment. Just my thoughts on the matter.




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What Ballak said pretty much sums up why I don't have a PS3 yet. At the moment it's a Blu-Ray player with one, perhaps two decent games. I don't have any Blu-Ray discs, my whole film and series collection is DVD and until the Blu-Ray becomes a bigger part of the market than DVD (like when shops seemingly shifted from 1 display of DVD's and several full displays of VHS to Several displays of DVD's and half a display of VHS overnight.) I won't feel compelled to get a PS3 and even then, unless some more decent games come out by then I may just get a Blu-Ray/DVD player and stick with the Xbox.


Message edited by Croesis on 12/16/2008 05:07:08.



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I love the PS3. Mainly use it to watch Blu-rays on (have over 50). They have some good games and the graphics is good




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Read this on Kotaku yesterday, interesting little story.

I'd doubted all along that LBP could actually live up to the massive hype it had, especially given it's focus on quality user created content (which Sony did nothing to help amongst the hardcore post release thanks to it's draconian modding of content).  I mean, it was practically being hyped as the second coming and something better than sliced bread at the same time (where's that buttering 'bot when you need it?).  Nothing could have lived up to that.  I did figure it would at least do better sales wise than it did though.

The sad thing in that article is the mention of Valkyria Chronicles.  I haven't played it yet, but I want to badly.  Looks like I'll need to find myself a copy asap because there's no way they'll do a second run of it with those numbers.  SMILEY




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I constantly hear people talk about how they do not want a PS3 because it only has a few good games...  Of all the "good games" that are available I count 3 franchises that are exclusive to 360.

Halo

Gears of War

 

As for PS3...

MGS

Uncharted

God of War

Resistance

Killzone

Grand Turismo

Motorstorm

 

The lack of games is just a product of most everyones word of mouth and urge to move on to the next cool thing and be in the cool crowd. The ps3 hasn't sold as much as the 360 because of that, but mainly because its expensive. The 360 is cheaper because, guess what, it lacks the features Ps3s has and it was rushed out in order to be released a year in advance, and this caused it to have faulty hardware.

I'd rather have both systems, because you can never have to many games to play. But If I gotta pic one, I go with the one with more of the games I care about and the one that isn't gonna crap out on me strait out of the box or in a month or two. The free online game play is just like a cherry on top after all that.

But this argument is tired, this thread was started by someone who just enjoys ruffleing peoples feathers because he has nothing better to do. I never even heard of that RPG game, plus I dont like jampaese RPGs so I don't give 2 craps about it. LBP however is still a great game and lots of fun, but a ballak mentioned, the user created content fiasco pretty muched ruined everything extra it had going for it.




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imax wrote:

I constantly hear people talk about how they do not want a PS3 because it only has a few good games...  Of all the "good games" that are available I count 3 franchises that are exclusive to 360.

Halo

Gears of War

 

As for PS3...

MGS

Uncharted

God of War

Resistance

Killzone

Grand Turismo

Motorstorm

 

The lack of games is just a product of most everyones word of mouth and urge to move on to the next cool thing and be in the cool crowd. The ps3 hasn't sold as much as the 360 because of that, but mainly because its expensive. The 360 is cheaper because, guess what, it lacks the features Ps3s has and it was rushed out in order to be released a year in advance, and this caused it to have faulty hardware.

I'd rather have both systems, because you can never have to many games to play. But If I gotta pic one, I go with the one with more of the games I care about and the one that isn't gonna crap out on me strait out of the box or in a month or two. The free online game play is just like a cherry on top after all that.

But this argument is tired, this thread was started by someone who just enjoys ruffleing peoples feathers because he has nothing better to do. I never even heard of that RPG game, plus I dont like jampaese RPGs so I don't give 2 craps about it. LBP however is still a great game and lots of fun, but a ballak mentioned, the user created content fiasco pretty muched ruined everything extra it had going for it.

iMax... chill. I know that Collective members are required to hate me, but its OK really, I'm not so bad. I wasn't posting this just for you or anything, I posted it for the the community. And I didn't post anything that would ruffle feathers, I posted an article from a website. So chill. Thanks.



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imax wrote:

 I never even heard of that RPG game, plus I dont like jampaese RPGs so I don't give 2 craps about it.

I won't bother countering your list with my list because it's all subjective and, as you said, that's a tired argument that goes nowhere.  It's apples and oranges.

I will note, however, that Valkyria Chronicles isn't a JRPG per se, it's a tactical strategy game that combines the focused story and character growth of a JRPG with real time action.  Think of it sort of like an RTS where you actually control the individual units, and actually care about them instead of them just being cannon fodder.  It's also scoring in the mid to upper 80% range on gamerankings and metacritic at the moment so, whether it fits into one's tastes or not, it's definitely a title that should be getting better sales than it has.


Message edited by Shinryu on 12/16/2008 13:04:33.



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It's all irrelevant. PC gamers will rule the planet.

SMILEY




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well granted the sales havent been big but you also got to put the economy into factor the economy was hit really hard around october and i see at this time im sure alot of people are saving probaly more so now as early as they could for christmas etc. people probally arent gonna spend 60 bucks on a video game in this time along with the holidays coming up. if im not mistaking alot of other games didnt do so well in october aswell.




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Proximisio wrote:

It's all irrelevant. PC gamers will rule the planet.

lol  Yep, 5 months after console gamers do and assuming their global domination even runs without a handful of patches.  SMILEY




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*Cries.* That's only recently, honest! All games I've bought recently - Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, GTA IV - have been riddled with more bugs than the mind can comprehend (seriously; I have a hard time working out just what the hell the developers were on when they tested them). But we've never had such a buggy turnout before, it's never been this bad.

Kinda funny to hear of LBP getting low sales. Takes the edge off the low sales of Mirror's Edge. Clearly the gaming public is primarily comprised of unimaginative dolts who hunger only for the next iteration of a game they've played before. I don't know... developers and publishers finally start going out of their way to produce original titles, and the public still hates them.




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LBP is clearly my game of the year. Games, just like every other art form, tend to become formulaic in order to cater to the unwashed masses. Put a guy in a metal suit and make him fly and fight in a movie, people will throw their money at it. Try to bring a movie that requires the public to put themselves into the mind of the characters, that's difficult. Alas, that's the problem, LBP requires the player to make an effort. And in entertainment, that's not something you should do!

I love LittleBigPlanet! The game is fun, cute, quirky, and thought provoking! One day, you'll be breaking your head trying to make a series of motors working in conjonction, and the other you'll be dancing with your girlfriend. All the friends I've shown the game to have loved it, so I do strongly think that it has something for everybody. I know that on the shelf, the typical gamer might put his money into some random game with space marines gunning aliens instead of a game featuring little sack people in 2D, but I do think that this is a game that everybody could find something in.




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Shinryu wrote:

imax wrote:

 I never even heard of that RPG game, plus I dont like jampaese RPGs so I don't give 2 craps about it.

I won't bother countering your list with my list because it's all subjective and, as you said, that's a tired argument that goes nowhere.  It's apples and oranges.

I will note, however, that Valkyria Chronicles isn't a JRPG per se, it's a tactical strategy game that combines the focused story and character growth of a JRPG with real time action.  Think of it sort of like an RTS where you actually control the individual units, and actually care about them instead of them just being cannon fodder.  It's also scoring in the mid to upper 80% range on gamerankings and metacritic at the moment so, whether it fits into one's tastes or not, it's definitely a title that should be getting better sales than it has.

I agree. VC is one of the few games I'd have bought if I had the console to play it. But buying the console for one game isn't a wise decision ... except if the game is called FF XIII.




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GoDGiVeR wrote:

Shinryu wrote:

imax wrote:

 I never even heard of that RPG game, plus I dont like jampaese RPGs so I don't give 2 craps about it.

I won't bother countering your list with my list because it's all subjective and, as you said, that's a tired argument that goes nowhere.  It's apples and oranges.

I will note, however, that Valkyria Chronicles isn't a JRPG per se, it's a tactical strategy game that combines the focused story and character growth of a JRPG with real time action.  Think of it sort of like an RTS where you actually control the individual units, and actually care about them instead of them just being cannon fodder.  It's also scoring in the mid to upper 80% range on gamerankings and metacritic at the moment so, whether it fits into one's tastes or not, it's definitely a title that should be getting better sales than it has.

I agree. VC is one of the few games I'd have bought if I had the console to play it. But buying the console for one game isn't a wise decision ... except if the game is called FF XIII.

And thats coming to 360 now too, so you now have another choice of a system to buy! I'm going to get it on PS3 myself personally, playing a FF game on the 360 just seems wrong :p

 
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