Hyperviolent wrote:
Ebola wrote:Thats what the orginization constructs are for :p We're in a War *which some people have forgotten I guess* Its totally reasonable for a Machine crack down on a Zion Terrorist meeting, or a terrorist attack on a Machine meeting... its called immersion ^_^Hahaha indeed, then if you want to kick down some doors RPvP style, have an infiltrator invite or teleport you inside.
Ebola wrote:
Thats what the orginization constructs are for :p We're in a War *which some people have forgotten I guess* Its totally reasonable for a Machine crack down on a Zion Terrorist meeting, or a terrorist attack on a Machine meeting... its called immersion ^_^
Hahaha indeed, then if you want to kick down some doors RPvP style, have an infiltrator invite or teleport you inside.
Yeah, I personally like the opening of Reloaded when the Agents crash the Zion meeting... I think that should happen every time. And since Neo isn't there to save them, the Agents can barge in and say "This RP suxs invite me back k?" then kill everyone! Heh heh.
Hyperviolent wrote:Ebola wrote:Thats what the orginization constructs are for :p We're in a War *which some people have forgotten I guess* Its totally reasonable for a Machine crack down on a Zion Terrorist meeting, or a terrorist attack on a Machine meeting... its called immersion ^_^Hahaha indeed, then if you want to kick down some doors RPvP style, have an infiltrator invite or teleport you inside.Yeah, I personally like the opening of Reloaded when the Agents crash the Zion meeting... I think that should happen every time. And since Neo isn't there to save them, the Agents can barge in and say "This RP suxs invite me back k?" then kill everyone! Heh heh.
Actually, the last Zion meeting we had a week ago or so was almost crashed by Agents, luckily we had rezzes. That was cool.
QuiDormit wrote:
The thing is, not once in any thread that I've found recently has a dev popped in to say anything. Everyone is making all these assumptions about merging and saying "oh well, we'll just up the character count to six, all better." That might not even be possible. The thing is, we have no idea whatsoever what would go into a server merge. If I had to guess, there's no way that any of the devs are going to talk about it, be it that they don't want to, or more importantly, they're not able/allowed to. A server merge is going to be a lot of work. It's not just a copy/paste bing bang boom done. And of course, don't forget about the all-delicate database which I've read in the past might melt into a firey explosion if you even say the word database too often.All that being said, I'd be for a merge as long as we're guaranteed MxO won't die in a firey crash because of the attempt. I don't think that's something that can be guaranteed at this stage of the game, though.
The thing is, not once in any thread that I've found recently has a dev popped in to say anything. Everyone is making all these assumptions about merging and saying "oh well, we'll just up the character count to six, all better." That might not even be possible.
The thing is, we have no idea whatsoever what would go into a server merge. If I had to guess, there's no way that any of the devs are going to talk about it, be it that they don't want to, or more importantly, they're not able/allowed to. A server merge is going to be a lot of work. It's not just a copy/paste bing bang boom done. And of course, don't forget about the all-delicate database which I've read in the past might melt into a firey explosion if you even say the word database too often.
All that being said, I'd be for a merge as long as we're guaranteed MxO won't die in a firey crash because of the attempt. I don't think that's something that can be guaranteed at this stage of the game, though.
Yes, that's probably the closest cause and explaination for why this isn't going to work. At least from a subscriber point of view. But ages have proven that this kind of threads are here to stay, and that there will be many more of them, so i do not take this too seriously and use them to state my immediate opinion. That's what we all are doing here, basically.
Hmm, it seems that the majority of forum lurkers have a tendency to "lol" when their mouth is full of some substance, in most cases coffee or coke.
Forum lurker? Sticks & Stones. "NO" for server merge.
I see what you did thar!
Also, I have nothing against the 2-server system, but I dunno how the people ultimately react to it (except the forum trollers >_>).
We currently have no plans for any server merges at this time.
That does not however mean you guys are not allowed to talk about them and we do read your opinions in these threads.
Also, I would much rather someone create a new thread then necro some 2 month old thread with old discussion in it as it is easier for us to read fresh threads then 2 month old ones.
Oh and for you guys flaming the Original Poster, you are not the forum police. That is my job, report the post and we will make the determination on if it violates a rule, rather then you quoting rules at someone which just leads to turning the thread into a flame fest.
Virrago wrote:
We currently have no plans for any server merges at this time.That does not however mean you guys are not allowed to talk about them and we do read your opinions in these threads.Also, I would much rather someone create a new thread then necro some 2 month old thread with old discussion in it as it is easier for us to read fresh threads then 2 month old ones.Oh and for you guys flaming the Original Poster, you are not the forum police. That is my job, report the post and we will make the determination on if it violates a rule, rather then you quoting rules at someone which just leads to turning the thread into a flame fest.
Thanks, Virrago. As far as I'm aware, this is one of the first dev posts I've seen in one of these threads. It's appreciated.
Thank you Virrago, that should dampen the heat in this kind of threads, and maybe keep us interested in proving our points here.
THANK YOU! I really appreciate your post, thanks for clearing that up. Im glad that for the first time we have a post from you guys
Thank you Virrago! I'm happy these threads aren't just made in complete vain and that we can discuss our opinions in a civilized manner. We're just trying to come up with constructive ideas to make this game better, even if they are "outside of the box" and/or ressurections of older ideas in light of new situations.
But this could be possible to do? if its needed in the future? and Virrago thanks for your response.. i think that will help straighten the forum police out..Thanks!!!
But I LIKE flame fests.
Good call on posting.
Really I dont care anymore merge the servers, Ill just throw the pain in the arse people on ignore like I've been doing for tha past 4 years.
QuiDormit wrote: The thing is, not once in any thread that I've found recently has a dev popped in to say anything. Everyone is making all these assumptions about merging and saying "oh well, we'll just up the character count to six, all better." That might not even be possible. The thing is, we have no idea whatsoever what would go into a server merge. If I had to guess, there's no way that any of the devs are going to talk about it, be it that they don't want to, or more importantly, they're not able/allowed to. A server merge is going to be a lot of work. It's not just a copy/paste bing bang boom done. And of course, don't forget about the all-delicate database which I've read in the past might melt into a firey explosion if you even say the word database too often.All that being said, I'd be for a merge as long as we're guaranteed MxO won't die in a firey crash because of the attempt. I don't think that's something that can be guaranteed at this stage of the game, though.Yes, that's probably the closest cause and explaination for why this isn't going to work. At least from a subscriber point of view. But ages have proven that this kind of threads are here to stay, and that there will be many more of them, so i do not take this too seriously and use them to state my immediate opinion. That's what we all are doing here, basically.
Yeah, but that's just it; someone on the dev side has spooked the player base about the much-talked-about database. They've got everyone believing that the database can't be touched.
But it can. Proof positive is the csv clothing file. That file was generated directly from the database. Maybe doctored a little by Dracomet for proprietery or server-side info only, but a direct export nonetheless.
Most databases interface a lot like an excel spreadsheet. In fact, the best ones can export to excel (csv) and then import the changed data right back into it. However, data manipulation for a database is time consuming and tricky. In that respect, databases are 'touchy'. But that doesn't mean they can't hire a temp for three weeks of data entry in prep for a merge.
Now, naturally, there is a lot more complicated information and table relations in this game's database than a typical website, mp3, or movie catalog would have. But its all the same basic principles.
