[10.1.2] "I can run a trace through him" - Syntax - 4/14/08

**Shimada**

Everyone,

It was decided that we would assist Carlyne with a scheme to help get rid of Halborn. Our operatives were able to overcome Halborn's overrides and restrain him while Carlyne ran a program on his RSI, but--according to Carlyne, at least--the program didn't work.

We still know very little about either of them, but their power and their actions--especially Halborn's murder of the Oracle--leave us little choice but to involve ourselves in this conflict. It becomes more and more apparent that it is we who will sway the balance between the two.

~Shimada

Zudrag

System chat is beautiful.

**shinpseudo**

The Leo

Shimada wrote:

That smiley is freaky...

**Avalod**

I knew it.... I KNEW IT!! I KNEW IT!! I KNEW IT!!!!

It was just to find his location. And for what? A sucker punch back? Tho Carlyne didn't soil his them there hands that much. Made us in EPN do that. Still I live by what I said. "Old tactics die hard". Soon enough they will be seen through and be more easier to predict.

Oh well. Someone will get the message soon enough seeing how the Mechs probably already expect the same thing over and over with there "observations" And this is seemingly going the same route -_-

Tenshi

Avalod wrote:

I knew it.... I KNEW IT!! I KNEW IT!! I KNEW IT!!!!

It was just to find his location. And for what? A sucker punch back? Tho Carlyne didn't soil his them there hands that much. Made us in EPN do that. Still I live by what I said. "Old tactics die hard". Soon enough they will be seen through and be more easier to predict.

Oh well. Someone will get the message soon enough seeing how the Mechs probably already expect the same thing over and over with there "observations" And this is seemingly going the same route -_-

Translate please?

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Zudrag

A little more on topic, Gentlemen. The Mod Swat team might be called in.

Looking through there again, sigh at the Machinist shooting at Halborn. Don't try to interfere with his efforts, just let him do what he's come here to do.

**GamiSB**

**shinpseudo** · 04/16/2008 05:45:45

Tenshi wrote:

Anyways...

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(( Yes, Halborn was hostile for the purpose of being attackable by us, not to incite a pvp fest, which it seems certain Machinists are looking to do at every single one of our events, lately. The opportunistic killing, seeing my system chat being flooded with ranged full-auto reduxes and hacks while being interlocked with the storyline character, was over the top even for standards already set quite low. Any faux RP standpoint, such as "I'm operative Billy Bob of the System, on patrol and happened across a hostile EPN force, so I attacked" is a complete cop-out in this instance ))

**GamiSB**

Zudrag wrote:

Looking through there again, sigh at the Machinist shooting at Halborn. Don't try to interfere with his efforts, just let him do what he's come here to do.

Is that why you did an ever so efficient job at removing his programs with your area hacks? I forgot to thank you for your assistance in that.

Croesis · 04/16/2008 06:39:47

shinpseudo wrote:

(( Yes, Halborn was hostile for the purpose of being attackable by us, not to incite a pvp fest, which it seems certain Machinists are looking to do at every single one of our events, lately. The opportunistic killing, seeing my system chat being flooded with ranged full-auto reduxes and hacks while being interlocked with the storyline character, was over the top even for standards already set quite low. Any faux RP standpoint, such as "I'm operative Billy Bob of the System, on patrol and happened across a hostile EPN force, so I attacked" is a complete cop-out in this instance ))

((Machinists and Zionites are still enemies as we're still at war, EPN doubly so. If Rarebit had intended for EPN to attack Halborn without interference from enemie operatives I'm sure Carlyne would have located him in an Org locked building or warehouse. Machinists are keeping an eye out for action by Halborn and Carlyne and allowing Halborn to do what he needs to do to get out of the system. EPN and Zion are aiding Carlyne and by doing so hampering Halborns progress, so you just expect us to watch and let you do it?))

As for Zudrag's area hacks, they may not be discriminatory and they may have unintendedly affected some targets mut you have to admit the results are in his favour.

**GamiSB** · 04/16/2008 06:54:18

Vinia wrote:

shinpseudo wrote:
(( Yes, Halborn was hostile for the purpose of being attackable by us, not to incite a pvp fest, which it seems certain Machinists are looking to do at every single one of our events, lately. The opportunistic killing, seeing my system chat being flooded with ranged full-auto reduxes and hacks while being interlocked with the storyline character, was over the top even for standards already set quite low. Any faux RP standpoint, such as "I'm operative Billy Bob of the System, on patrol and happened across a hostile EPN force, so I attacked" is a complete cop-out in this instance ))
((Machinists and Zionites are still enemies as we're still at war, EPN doubly so. If Rarebit had intended for EPN to attack Halborn without interference from enemie operatives I'm sure Carlyne would have located him in an Org locked building or warehouse. Machinists are keeping an eye out for action by Halborn and Carlyne and allowing Halborn to do what he needs to do to get out of the system. EPN and Zion are aiding Carlyne and by doing so hampering Halborns progress, so you just expect us to watch and let you do it?))

As for Zudrag's area hacks, they may not be discriminatory and they may have unintendedly affected some targets mut you have to admit the results are in his favour.

((I understand the point but apparently you missed something while watching. A few Machinist were not just there to watch and in fact helped Carlyne (sorta). I’m pretty sure Zud would get the award for most Accelerate Programs killed (the small glimps of system chat show ya that he killed more programs then EPN) and jb got the kills for two decelerators so the story for them just being there to monitor Halbron and help him get out goes to *poop* when you're there killing his programs.

Not that I’m complaining because it really didn't bother me (recon still works wonderfully) but that’s just the way I saw it.))

**shinpseudo**

Vinia wrote:

shinpseudo wrote:
(( Yes, Halborn was hostile for the purpose of being attackable by us, not to incite a pvp fest, which it seems certain Machinists are looking to do at every single one of our events, lately. The opportunistic killing, seeing my system chat being flooded with ranged full-auto reduxes and hacks while being interlocked with the storyline character, was over the top even for standards already set quite low. Any faux RP standpoint, such as "I'm operative Billy Bob of the System, on patrol and happened across a hostile EPN force, so I attacked" is a complete cop-out in this instance ))
((Machinists and Zionites are still enemies as we're still at war, EPN doubly so. If Rarebit had intended for EPN to attack Halborn without interference from enemie operatives I'm sure Carlyne would have located him in an Org locked building or warehouse. Machinists are keeping an eye out for action by Halborn and Carlyne and allowing Halborn to do what he needs to do to get out of the system. EPN and Zion are aiding Carlyne and by doing so hampering Halborns progress, so you just expect us to watch and let you do it?))
As for Zudrag's area hacks, they may not be discriminatory and they may have unintendedly affected some targets mut you have to admit the results are in his favour.

(( You cannot have a battle of that scale inside a locked building or a warehouse. It doesn't take much cognitive ability to discern between taking opportunistic ranged pot-shots at someone while they're fighting an LE character, being an obnoxious act or not. Your RP standpoint is being leveraged to justify behavior that was done (perhaps not by all...) solely for the sake of getting their rocks off ))

Croesis

GamiSB wrote:

((I understand the point but apparently you missed something while watching. A few Machinist were not just there to watch and in fact helped Carlyne (sorta). I’m pretty sure Zud would get the award for most Accelerate Programs killed and jb got the kills for two decelerators so the story for them just being there to monitor Halbron and help him get out goes to *poop* when your there killing his programs.

Not that I’m complaining because it really didn't bother me (recon still works wonderfully) but that’s just the way I saw it.))

((Halborns override programs and accelerated programs are hostile to everyone and a danger to the simulation. If, by the act of attempting to attack EPN with Area hacks, the accelerated programs get retired and override programs get eliminated then it's a bonus as, from what I saw Halborn was hardly taking any damage even with a load of EPN attacking him, so any 'help' that Zudrag or anyone else may have inadvertently given to EPN was negligable. I cannot speak for any Machinist attacking him, they'll be able to explain their own actions.))

Croesis

shinpseudo wrote:

(( You cannot have a battle of that scale inside a locked building or a warehouse. It doesn't take much cognitive ability to discern between taking opportunistic ranged pot-shots at someone while they're fighting an LE character, being an obnoxious act or not. Your RP standpoint is being leveraged to justify behavior that was done (perhaps not by all...) solely for the sake of getting their rocks off ))

((Of course you can, but it wouldn't have been that scale in a locked building as there wouldn't have been any Machinists in there. You had an org locked building before finding Halborn when Cyph NPC's attacked. I'm sure the override programs spawn numbers depend on amount of players in range and if not, during the event Rarebit must have seen the numbers and spawned more accelerated. The fight was big because of the amount of people there, without Machinists it would have been a lot smaller and thus fully capable of being held in a large building.))