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Systemic Anomaly

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Well I think because all the freed people in Zion where either Computer hackers or totally into computers in the matrix, that morpheus just picked the "one" that was the best at the moment I.e. Thomas Anderson and stuck with him. KLuckely he turned out to be the one, not saying there wern't missed tries before him, where Morpheus grabed somebody and they where like uhhh... dead. Yeah thats what I think.

 

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day...I suppose Morpheus was bound to find the next One eventually.

 

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Message edited by Illyria22 on 01/09/2007 08:37:54.



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didnt the oracle tell him he was going to meet someone of great significance that would help him?



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ManicV wrote:

Keep in mind that this involves Trinity as well.  The Oracle told her that she would fall in love with the man who would be The One.  This raises a few questions:

Did Trinity believe The Oracle's prediction?

If she didn't believe it, would she still have fallen in love with Neo?

If she did believe it, are her affections for Neo genuine?

Assuming people can fall in love with more than one person, how many potential "Ones" did Trinity have affections for after the prediction was made?

I think Morpheus was a very insignificant factor, compared to how Trinity impacted Neo's awakening.  The Oracle told Morpheus that he would find The One, yet when examined, The Oracle determines that Neo was not The One.  Morpheus didn't find The One, he found Neo.  It wasn't until Trinity confessed her true feelings for Neo that he became The One.

That really falls under the "Broken Vase" line of thought; if she didn't believe, would it have happened anyway? Wouldn't she have fallen in love with Neo anyway? She clearly had feelings before he showed any One-like powers. Or was her connection with the One more psychic than romantic? Perhaps she never really loved him, she just thought she did, because of what the Oracle said.


As for Morpheus, he's just some crazy guy who desperately wanted a purpose, illustrated even more so in MxO. Hmm...there's a connection to Smith in that regard.



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ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
ManicV wrote:

Keep in mind that this involves Trinity as well.  The Oracle told her that she would fall in love with the man who would be The One.  This raises a few questions:

Did Trinity believe The Oracle's prediction?

If she didn't believe it, would she still have fallen in love with Neo?

If she did believe it, are her affections for Neo genuine?

Assuming people can fall in love with more than one person, how many potential "Ones" did Trinity have affections for after the prediction was made?

I think Morpheus was a very insignificant factor, compared to how Trinity impacted Neo's awakening.  The Oracle told Morpheus that he would find The One, yet when examined, The Oracle determines that Neo was not The One.  Morpheus didn't find The One, he found Neo.  It wasn't until Trinity confessed her true feelings for Neo that he became The One.

That really falls under the "Broken Vase" line of thought; if she didn't believe, would it have happened anyway? Wouldn't she have fallen in love with Neo anyway? She clearly had feelings before he showed any One-like powers. Or was her connection with the One more psychic than romantic? Perhaps she never really loved him, she just thought she did, because of what the Oracle said.


As for Morpheus, he's just some crazy guy who desperately wanted a purpose, illustrated even more so in MxO. Hmm...there's a connection to Smith in that regard.

Well, when you put it like that, I think Trinity's love for Neo could have been another Machine control.

"Being the One is just like being in love.", "The Oracle told me that I would fall in love, and that man would be the One", "Save Trinity or save Zion" Go figure.

But, back on topic. At some point, Morpheus looked at Neo and said, "this is it; he's the One". What I want to know is, what made him decide/realize/etc? No one knows?




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Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

But, back on topic. At some point, Morpheus looked at Neo and said, "this is it; he's the One". What I want to know is, what made him decide/realize/etc? No one knows?


Cause Neo stopped a crap load of bullets in mid-air.

 

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Fondo wrote:
Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

But, back on topic. At some point, Morpheus looked at Neo and said, "this is it; he's the One". What I want to know is, what made him decide/realize/etc? No one knows?


Cause Neo stopped a crap load of bullets in mid-air.

 

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Your words have a kind of ... poetic beauty to them SMILEY


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Fondo wrote:
Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

But, back on topic. At some point, Morpheus looked at Neo and said, "this is it; he's the One". What I want to know is, what made him decide/realize/etc? No one knows?


Cause Neo stopped a crap load of bullets in mid-air.

I think he means before they awoke Neo.


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@ LostProphet: I try.

@ Zeroone: Well if he would clarify then I could also comment on the other situation... but if he would read my post from earlier then he would see that I already touched on that subject... that Morpheus always had the best hackers in his crew, and he might have thought that the best hacker in the matrix could become the one, because he had so much base understanding of cade and programming.

 Better? SMILEY

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Morpheus Believed Neo was the One waaaaay before he knew who Neo was. I would suspect he looked at everyone at some point and thought, "You could be the One." He wasn't stupid, he must have had reasons to view a potential as such.

He actually Knew Neo was the One when Neo proved it, like whoever said.

These forums think Neo is spelled wrong. Ouch.


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Fondo wrote:

@ LostProphet: I try.

@ Zeroone: Well if he would clarify then I could also comment on the other situation... but if he would read my post from earlier then he would see that I already touched on that subject... that Morpheus always had the best hackers in his crew, and he might have thought that the best hacker in the matrix could become the one, because he had so much base understanding of cade and programming.

 Better? SMILEY

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We saw that Thomas Anderson was a hacker from his dealings with the guy who had the white rabbit girlfriend.

To paraphrase Fondo: Possibly Neo performed hacks that would have been impossible for those without an understanding of the matrix.


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I definitely see what the OP is trying to get at, but I don't think there's any way to know for sure.  If there was a specific answer somewhere in the films, MxO, or The Animatrix, someone in this horde of fans would probably be able to quote it line, chapter, and verse. 

My theory?  I think that Neo did something to distinguish himself in terms of his understanding of computer systems - after all, being the One is really only a matter of having the capability to overpower the rules of the simulation by force of will.  What that something was that caught Morpheus' attention is up in the air.  Coming up with extremely powerful hacks for which people would pay a lot of money is a good candidate.  I seem to recall a theory that Thomas Anderson may have been tinkering with artificial intelligence based upon the titles of the books on his bookshelf, so perhaps he was on the verge of "discovering" the key to artificial intelligence.  Hard to say for sure.

On the other hand, the edited quote from Morpheus may mean that he literally just saw Thomas Anderson on the street, but had an overwhelming sense that this random guy was the One.  Morpheus was a big proponent of trusting your intuition, so this seems almost as likely as there being a specific rational reason for his commitment to tracking Neo.




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Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

How did Morpheus know that Thomas A. Anderson, aka Neo, was the One? What did Neo do that set him apart from any other potentials?

And how did the Agents in the beginning not know?

Morpheus didn't know.  He was on a search mission, remember?
Nothing.  People believed in him/her/it.
No one knew.  BTW, you can't not know.
 
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