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Systemic Anomaly

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sugaree wrote:

Zeac wrote:

Woot! ugg boots

glad this area is being brought some attention though since the only 3 reasons people go there is 1) access key 2) huang shirt or 3) to get away from everybody.

Beg to differ!  There are also some great neighborhood contact missions, of which Mr. Po stands out from a strong group!

Plus, having lived in Asia, it all brings back such strong, savory memories for me.

 

Little known factiod:  The old Mr. Po missions waaaay back in beta featured a group of Exiles that had a little business going whereby they would re-insert heartbroken redpills that missed bluepill loved ones back into the Matrix as bluepills once again with no memory of their redpill life.  Kind of like what Neo was offered (and Cypher to an extent by Smith), actually made manifest.  Of course, pretty quicly that got scrapped...perhaps even before EOB, because it would totally conflict with Cypherite storyline goals and later of course bluepill reinsertion being exposed as a fiction!  So they replaced them with the current Po missions which are pretty generic, kill this guy, escort this guy types of things.  I swear this is true...it stuck in my memory because they were so fascinating and poignant.  No one remembers, alas SMILEY




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Certainly sounds interesting and perhaps even a little hasty in their removal. Sure it would confuse people, but what if this 'business' turned out to be a front for something else, they promise re-insertion but don't actually do it?

Of course an issue with insertion if it was true (or even if it weren't and the business was a front)... where would a redpill, who enters the Matrix via hovercraft, go to get 're-inserted'? Would this Mr. Po have machines on the outside?

Either way would have been interesting, but eh, hindsight is a wonderful thing.


Message edited by Croesis on 12/15/2008 02:59:26.
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The subject of reinsertion really pisses me off, as a Matrix fan.

First...  I remember those Po missions, but I wasn't in beta.  However, I did those probably within the first month of the game being live.  I never knew they had been changed!!  As a matter of fact, back when Enmascarado and Germaaskerd were around, a friend of mine that used to play this and wanted to be Cypherite, made Mr. Po part of his RP due to his ability to reinsert redpills.

Anyhow...  the reinsertion thing ticks me off, because it was already established as being possible (and actually showing a redpill back in their pod) in other canon sources (the story "Saviors" in the Matrix Comics Vol. 2).  Some people here will defend MxO by saying the comics are not canon, however, they had always been accepted as such (not only that, but some stories are written BY the W. Bros, and ALL of them were selected for print and edited by the W. Bros....  how is that not canon?) until this change by MxO.

I'm sorry, but I'd take the comics as more canonical than this game...  especially since this decision to make reinsertion not possible came after the W Bros probably stopped paying attention to this game.

Actually, that's a question I'd like an answer to...  Rarebit, when you're writing the story, do you submit your ideas to the W Bros for approval?  Do you have contact with them?  I'm just curious.




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Fen wrote:

I'm sorry, but I'd take the comics as more canonical than this game... 


I wouldn't go as far as that. For example, the story "Goliath" (Comic Volume 1) is really in contradiction with the Matrix Universe as a whole. MxO is at least NO LESS canon as the comics to me.




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Fen wrote:

The subject of reinsertion really pisses me off, as a Matrix fan.

First...  I remember those Po missions, but I wasn't in beta.  However, I did those probably within the first month of the game being live.  I never knew they had been changed!!  As a matter of fact, back when Enmascarado and Germaaskerd were around, a friend of mine that used to play this and wanted to be Cypherite, made Mr. Po part of his RP due to his ability to reinsert redpills.

Anyhow...  the reinsertion thing ticks me off, because it was already established as being possible (and actually showing a redpill back in their pod) in other canon sources (the story "Saviors" in the Matrix Comics Vol. 2).  Some people here will defend MxO by saying the comics are not canon, however, they had always been accepted as such (not only that, but some stories are written BY the W. Bros, and ALL of them were selected for print and edited by the W. Bros....  how is that not canon?) until this change by MxO.

I'm sorry, but I'd take the comics as more canonical than this game...  especially since this decision to make reinsertion not possible came after the W Bros probably stopped paying attention to this game.

Actually, that's a question I'd like an answer to...  Rarebit, when you're writing the story, do you submit your ideas to the W Bros for approval?  Do you have contact with them?  I'm just curious.


Good at least I know I wasn't hallucinating them!  I'm remembering them correctly, more or less, yes?


 
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