Update 61 Discussion - June 26, 2008

**TheSorrows** · 07/04/2008 12:24:44

Pylat wrote:

AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

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The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.

**Presence**

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ReProgrammed

TheSorrows wrote:

Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.

Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..

**Weskie**

ReProgrammed wrote:

TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..

Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P

**Ballak**

Weskie wrote:

ReProgrammed wrote:
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P

Same thing with Zudrag and I.

Honestly the drop rate for the Shurikens is horrible. On average you can get from 5-9 shurikens from one box. when you need 72 for one outfit. And if you want all the outfits that's 216 shurikens. That's 44 boxes you'd have to go through if you got five on each one. For one person that's 44 boxes. For an entire team that's 264 boxes for 1,296 shurikens. Say the box takes the full two hours, and that's 528 hours of killing the same ninjas. That's the amount of three weeks and a day. T_T

ReProgrammed

Ballak wrote:

Weskie wrote:
ReProgrammed wrote:
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P
Same thing with Zudrag and I.
Honestly the drop rate for the Shurikens is horrible. On average you can get from 5-9 shurikens from one box. when you need 72 for one outfit. And if you want all the outfits that's 216 shurikens. That's 44 boxes you'd have to go through if you got five on each one. For one person that's 44 boxes. For an entire team that's 264 boxes for 1,296 shurikens. Say the box takes the full two hours, and that's 528 hours of killing the same ninjas. That's the amount of three weeks and a day. T_T

your math is terrible...since there are 3 items and you need 36 shurikens thats 108 and if you want all 3 colors that's 324 shurikens and 12 tokens....so much fun...

**Villemar_MxO**

Aquatium. wrote:

Neoteny wrote:
Recursion did get the numbers up, but unfortunately we were still a half hour too long in doing my Daimyo box.
Well it was about 5 people doing damage upto about the 90 something spawn, with me and Nicks healing and buffing. A lot of players didn't log into Recursion till very late on, so the extra help came, but a little late, though nice to see the Mec players there just standing and watching.

Oh, I really like the effects of the Ninja's and the lvl 100 also looked really cool. Rarebit you made Nicks really happy with some of those color choices!

What is this talk about level 90's and 100's. I thought the highest level was the 83 ninja.

**Ballak**

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Aquatium. wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
Recursion did get the numbers up, but unfortunately we were still a half hour too long in doing my Daimyo box.
Well it was about 5 people doing damage upto about the 90 something spawn, with me and Nicks healing and buffing. A lot of players didn't log into Recursion till very late on, so the extra help came, but a little late, though nice to see the Mec players there just standing and watching.

Oh, I really like the effects of the Ninja's and the lvl 100 also looked really cool. Rarebit you made Nicks really happy with some of those color choices!

What is this talk about level 90's and 100's. I thought the highest level was the 83 ninja.

The Daiymo Toy Box spawns ninjas from 71-100. 83-100 being named ninjas that have their own color schemes.

**Ballak** · 07/04/2008 11:55:56

ReProgrammed wrote:

Ballak wrote:
Weskie wrote:
ReProgrammed wrote:
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P
Same thing with Zudrag and I.
Honestly the drop rate for the Shurikens is horrible. On average you can get from 5-9 shurikens from one box. when you need 72 for one outfit. And if you want all the outfits that's 216 shurikens. That's 44 boxes you'd have to go through if you got five on each one. For one person that's 44 boxes. For an entire team that's 264 boxes for 1,296 shurikens. Say the box takes the full two hours, and that's 528 hours of killing the same ninjas. That's the amount of three weeks and a day. T_T
your math is terrible...since there are 3 items and you need 36 shurikens thats 108 and if you want all 3 colors that's 324 shurikens and 12 tokens....so much fun...

yep, you're right. So that's even more than I estimated. I forgot to add another 36 onto the 72. Oh well.

That's 324 for one person, 5 on each box that's 65 boxes. 390 boxes for a team, and 2 hour on those boxes would be 780 hours, actually. Which is 32 and a half days. That's a month of straight farming plus or minus a few days.

ReProgrammed · 07/04/2008 12:12:17

you can get enough for 6 people with 33 boxes.....thats if each spawn drops a shuriken...which is impossible....

and 99 boxes if you want all the colors.

**Pylat**

To me it seemed a whole lot more logical to have more than 36 Shurikens drop per box (So 1 box = 1 item + a few spare to throw around. And if someone wants to get the outfit that's roughly 3 hours of content for them, more if they are an avid collector, not to mention the Daimyo box aswell). Cause at the end you're left with a pile of Completion tokens you can do nothing with cause you had to repeat the box 3-4 times to get 1 item.

I think people would have looked much more favorably on this content if "Re-playability" wasn't shoehorned in on it like this. The boxes are fun and I enjoyed them. But when you have to do around 12 just to get 1 item for each member of a 4 person team it turns into a grind.

**Villemar_MxO**

It seems to me that Satiland is exclusively a place to go to farm those specific boxes, absolutely nothing more. Too bad there isn't anything else to do there.

**flecky**

I think the drop rates are somewhat bizarre to be honest. You get a token at the end of each box yet you have to complete the box 4-7 times to get enough shurikens for a trade. That means you will then have atleast 4 tokens, 3 of which are useless to you......

Cant we add an info trade to the vendor like on the patcher quest so we can trade these tokens in for something, or is there somethign else that they can be used for

**Kybutra**

Being able to explore all of the buildings is awesome, what the matrix should have been from launch.

Tenshi · 07/04/2008 12:32:39

Kybutra wrote:

Being able to explore all of the buildings is awesome, what the matrix should have been from launch.

While that is a cool feature, the way mission areas work it wouldn't be possible outside the constructs. And even if they cut down the mission areas, that would mean multiple people running missions in the same neighborhoods would run into all kinds of problems. And now that I'm close to getting a third 50, I can safely say there are plenty of keyboard-smashing errors as is.