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For the record I think 1st Anomaly was trying to be helpful. I can understand though where it's frustrating to have a problem like this continue on for so long. I know I was a little harsh as well in my last post but that was just me being angry over the game losing players over this issue.

 

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Message edited by Alternity on 02/18/2008 21:27:29.


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I've lost many good friends and faction mates to this issue.  My Faction founder Beachhead was the first one to bring this issue to light.  And he was treated like * for it.  Sorry 9mmfu, Rarebit, and Virrago (I believe Raijinn was the Comm.Rep at the time) and gang - but you did treat him like * and skirted the issue and ignored it and blamed it all on his system settings for the longest time.  I still believe that the Dev team owes my guild-leader a massive apology.  Just for treating him so badly all this time despite his repeated attempts to inform and self-repair the problem on his end.  It may be a moot point now ... but Beachhead is still waiting for an apology ... I think it would just be a common courtesy to give him one.  He brought up this thing over a year ago when Vista and the cards where released and ppl started getting it.  And he was treated like *.  And still feels like the Dev team treats him like * on the lag issue and doesn't give a flying rat's *.  And now this a total community blow-up - which was a long time coming.  And will untill it's fixed.   

Many ppl have left, and new ppl with 8000 series cards who get buddy-keys will try the game and run into this problem and not buy the game.  Simple economics and customer services 101.  I also live with the same problems.  And have put up with them as long as my faction leader Beachhead has had them.  I have an 8600gts Nvidia card.  What is wierd is 8600 has no indoor lag in Vista, but does so on XP.  None of my other games have this issue or have had this issue. And I am not going to downgrade my system for one sloppy game.  It is only this game.  So ... all roads point to * code game design.  The blank screen problem, texture tweekage, all of that * is only MxO specific.  But I have known this from the start so I am tired of being mad about it. 

Just give Mr. Beachhead his formal apology that he is owed and work on fixing it.  If the new area still has all these problems .... how can we enjoy it?  Answer me that ...   If the devs think this is terrible screaming, wait till that new package is put out.  Once ppl realize they can't play in it do to the lag issues ... it will get a whole lot worse.

I'm past being mad.  I am numb to the pain.  Actually, that is just one of the reasons I am crying in my current signature. 

I will add, and news for the Devs if they have not heard (stop ignoring me for once Rarebit and listen!!).  Vista service Pak 1 is coming out this late spring to the start of summer.  Some ppl w/ friends who have tested some beta action say that MANY graphical glitches where fixed.  However that is just rumor.  I reported this as a news brief a little bit ago ... why to the Devs ignore anything I have to say so much?  Anyway - VISTA SERVICE PAK 1 coming out soon.  Vista users with Nvidia I highly suggest we get this and use it.  And my mention was a heads up for the Devs - but they just like to ignore. 

 

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Yes it does Camisra but not in a advanced way. and thank you The Leo and CrimsonKiller for supporting my comments and your hilarious posts and yes you are right i had 3 paragraphs and the first 2 where constructive advice and the other simply stated the sitation we are in with help from SOE
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Travi wrote:
I have an ATI HD Pro 2600 card, and I have similar issues with indoor lag, but only at certain intervals.
The main time I get lag is when I first enter a new building after jacking in, OR just a new building that I hadn't been in during that current play session.
After running around the area and visiting the same-type structure numerous times (like during missions or such), the lag goes away, normally within 30-45 minutes. I guess it's during this time, the game just recycles the same textures when you enter the same-type structure.
I play with high detail, high shadows, and several of the advanced graphics sliders at high or max.
While it's not a solution, that's all I've noticed out of my card - just when first entering new buildings or entering after jacking in, I get massive, jump from this place to the other lag. I just ignore and it and go on, as after a while, it does smooth out.
That's just an observation on my part.

Same here actually, with the same card. But mine cleared up after a week or so of play time. /shrug


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LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:
Travi wrote:
I have an ATI HD Pro 2600 card, and I have similar issues with indoor lag, but only at certain intervals.
The main time I get lag is when I first enter a new building after jacking in, OR just a new building that I hadn't been in during that current play session.
After running around the area and visiting the same-type structure numerous times (like during missions or such), the lag goes away, normally within 30-45 minutes. I guess it's during this time, the game just recycles the same textures when you enter the same-type structure.
I play with high detail, high shadows, and several of the advanced graphics sliders at high or max.
While it's not a solution, that's all I've noticed out of my card - just when first entering new buildings or entering after jacking in, I get massive, jump from this place to the other lag. I just ignore and it and go on, as after a while, it does smooth out.
That's just an observation on my part.


Thats normal.  Thats what you said, loading lag.  But even if I stay in a place for 30 min...it still lags.  Slight difference.
Well, what I was getting at, and didn't mention, so my apologies: Is with my old Nvidia 7900 card (before it went kaput), my loading times for indoors were not near as bad (infact, it was just upon entering a building and that was it) as they are now. They do smooth on with this card (I believe it to be an issue with DirectX 10 as well), it still takes it a long while with this card than it did with my old Nvidia card.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that - it's just longer loading times, may not be a relation to this issue at hand, but just trying to help how I can.

Message edited by Travi on 02/18/2008 12:59:49.



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id say sell that card and upgrade to the 3870 because it sounds like it has buffering problems.


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1stAnomaly wrote:
id say sell that card and upgrade to the 3870 because it sounds like it has buffering problems.

SMILEY



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1stAnomaly wrote:
id say sell that card and upgrade to the 3870 because it sounds like it has buffering problems.
once again stop talking about the ATI card and get back on topic


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man i just replied to what he said he also thought he had indoor lag therefore on topic and this is all about solutions for the problem so therefore that is a solution and im on topic so get off my case.

btw the last thread was closed because of personal attacks *hint hint*


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1stAnomaly wrote:
man i just replied to what he said he also thought he had indoor lag therefore on topic and this is all about solutions for the problem so therefore that is a solution and im on topic so get off my case.



btw the last thread was closed because of personal attacks *hint hint*

Constantly saying "buy this card" is not a solution. It may not have issues but its not what this thread was created for, we are here to figure out this mess with the 8 Series cards not simply throw out a perfectly good video card just so we can play 1 game.

Message edited by Kybutra on 02/19/2008 06:19:48.



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1stAnomaly wrote:
man i just replied to what he said he also thought he had indoor lag therefore on topic and this is all about solutions for the problem so therefore that is a solution and im on topic so get off my case.



btw the last thread was closed because of personal attacks *hint hint*
Please refrain from offering a solution of "Dump the 8xxx cause i think it's trash".  As a graphic desinger, this card is tops.  Duel screen, and running high rez for layouts, ill put any mac to shame.

Those of us posting in here to try and work out a solution with 9mmfu (Thanks for the help in game btw 9mm) are obviously NOT (Say that again...) NOT going to swap out our cards for the advice of some player with god knows what background.

ATI is not relevant, nor  will it be, EVER (let me say that again as well) ATI Will NEVER be relevant when dealing with Nvidia.

Thanks for your opinions, but we are looking for serious solutions, and not cop-outs.

Anywho...

Magog W, most of the larger buildings, I suffer a fraction of the lag there as if I were in clubs.  If I absolutely have to mission, I go there, and try and hit the big buildings that the Crossbones hang around.  Oddly enough, the same building styles elsewhere, suffer the lag.

Perhaps a different coder wrote this area than others?  Its just like the clubs, only lag I suffer is in doorways.  Once through and the door is closed, I am fine.

*edited for flamebaiting*

Message edited by Inkblot on 02/20/2008 19:41:03.


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This post has moved:

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Please do not make personal attacks against the moderator staff. If you have a problem with a moderator's decision please take your concerns to CRM Virrago or a Senior/Lead Moderator.



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OMG SERIOUSLY!


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In all fairness, there is a reason that your posts here keep getting reported, and subsequently moved.
Feel free to PM any moderator, and they'll be happy to explain why they edited or moved your posts.
If you have a problem with the way a moderator is handling things, send a PM to Virrago or I, and we'll look into it.

Message edited by Paradox on 02/20/2008 22:04:47.
 
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