Wow nice conrac, I and a few others were struggling through that translation to ascii as well. your right the translation has been giving me fits, but what you came up with looks right with what we ended up with so far.
Since Strayshot seems to want everyone to work on this I'll continue with this here. I had decided to work with others from zion in secret but if strayshot doesn't mind I'll share.
the first data node listed was just outside of sai kung central hardline, most liekly on the vector instance, that is where coffinsnail had been seen before, either by the angels or if I remeber correctly outlaw54 mentioned him beening seen there.
As for the other locations Pamela showssets of data that we can possibly use to pointpoint the coordinates. I'll play around with it here on vector and if I figure anything out I'll post here.
I have been looking at the Pamela Feed .. Seems the feed is updated every day with a new localization.
The first scene was at Sai Kung Central.
The second on the 20th Floor of the Kedemoth Tower that tisiphone calls home.
The third had poor signal reception and seems to be from under the Edgewater docks
Todays scene was in an apartment in Rogers Way near the broken down roadway and one of the Morpheus Beacon Sightings.
In order to make use of the Adelia tool we need to be able to reverse triangulate the locations of the data nodes.
This is a much harder problem then a normal forward triangulation. Consider that in the forward problem the the Target emits a signal at some time, call it T0. The signal propagates isometrically and is received at the Data nodes at some later times T1, T2 and T3. The data node locations are known locations. The data nodes are capable of determining the azimuth and elevation of the incoming signal. We are assuming straight line propagation, here. This direction is represented by a unit vector and for a given Node forms the parametric equation of a line. that is
XT= X1 + A1*t1, YT=Y1 + B1*t1, and ZT=Z1 + C1*t1
Where (XT,YT,ZT) are the Coordinates of the Target (in meters), (X1,Y1,Z1) are the coordinates of the Node (also in Meters) and (A1,B1,C1) are the components of the Unit Vector indicating the direction of the Target measured by the Data Node (these can be in meters or meters/second) depending on how one treats the variable t1 (the line parameter for node 1). T can either be dimensionless or expressed in seconds if one knows the propagation speed of the signal. The variable t takes on all values from 0 to infinity. It allows one to trace out all points that lie on the line at whatever resolution to user desires. There are equivalent equations for the other two nodes. All three nodes share the same target but different values for the direction Vector and the line parameter at the point of intersection. We are assumming perfect straight line propagation os only two Modes are required to provide an intersection by solving a set of simultaneous equations for the values of t1 and t2 at the point of intersection. t3 can be calculated for confirmation. that is
X1 + A1*t1 = X2 + A2*t2, Y1+B1*t1 = Y2 + B2*t2, Z1+C1*t1 = Z2+C2*t2
once t1, t2 and t3 are known they can be substituted into the parametric equations of any of the lines to give the coordinates of the Target.
Now consider what Pamela does for us .. First she provides us with the coordinates of the Target... presumably by performing the triangulaization I have described here. She also provides us with a direction vectors that shows us the direction from the target to each one of the nodes. What she does not provide us directly is the travel time for the signal from the target to each of the Nodes.. Therefore we have no direct way to calculate how far along the direction line the node is. What she does provide us with is a frequency of the outgoing signal from the target ... From which we must derive a distance and the query frequency used by the node because in order to retrieve the data with Adelia we must provide the location and the query frequency of the node. Presumably one can pull the data from each of the nodes used for triangulation.
When one looks at the Pamela data in more detail one realizes several things .. First the Direction vectors are not normalized, which is how one might arrive at a distance to the node. From the Sai Kung scene one can by inspection determine that the t parameter for the indicated node is exactly equal to 2. It also turns out that the outgoing freq from the target is exactly 18 times the Node frequency. In fact all the outgoing frequencies in the first scene are exactly divisble by 18. This includes the number in the upper right hand corner of the if one discards the last digit. I have tried playing around with frequency ratios for determining distance but have not had much success.
In the second scene the frequencies have a highest common denominator of 3. The direction components howver are very large which does not jive very well with the length of the node-target lines in the picture.
At the moment I do not know how to proceed .. perhaps a night sleep will provide me with some new ideas.
Most of that just seems way too beyond my comprehension, that being said if theres something im good at it's finding the location of random shots in mega city - so besides their existance - is there anything about this nodes that makes them different outside of their conjunction and relation to the joker, or are they just random nodes along the way?
Also - max props to Conrac.
Darminian
Having one in each counting richland and westview as one would make sense, especially with the recurring triangulation business.
Ahhhrrrgghhh...
Well I kind of figured this would happen. I have been at the Pamela Page since about 01/2007. Though the Pamela Page you all are seeing is not what was originally there... and the one that is being posted now has changed from what was displayed in June. There was an additional code and different x,y,z coordinates than what is up now. Suffice it to say it took me about 4 days to decode the ASCII script to get the HTMl Pamela Page and then from there we started working at finding the different locations of the nodes. Though when we had the Pamela Page originally there was just one picture, the top one, and the text at the top was different as well... Suggesting a different type of system for finding the nodes. A program was actually written by one of our members to locate the other nodes based off of XYZ coordinates and frequencies and we then inputed about 1000 + different locations in the Adelia page to find matches to them. Which there were none... Simply because the puzzle had not been completed.
From:Rarebit
To:broin
Date:02/02/2007 11:10:30
Subject:Re:Unidentified Broadcast Live Events Post
You are correct, the puzzle is currently incomplete.
I will talk to Strayshot about sharing the additional information that I have which is not now contained on the different pages. Hell, for all I know the xyz cords that I have that were posted in June were wrong and that's why they changed them to the new ones. However, I want to make it clear there are those who spent numerous numerous hours working on this puzzle. Not just FA memebers, but others in the community who were working with the original Scanline Crew and figuring things out. I do not like the idea of an individual having done so much work and dedicated so much time to a puzzle or storyline activity, only to have all of that hard work and information basically thrown out on the forums, for anyone to gather and run with. If in the end someone who has not put in the time or effort but is simply able to piggy-back on the hard work of others is granted some type of special item in game I find that extremley extremley disoncerting. Then again if like Strayshot says there is no bonus to coming across the finish line first then I'll be more than happy to share what I have.
Hidden text in the adelai site: Top of page: Node accessed. Data not found. Accessing error log. 8.25.17.37.26 Bottom of page: So he wants to play rough, does he? You're probably the one who's been cutting the strings on our puppets too. Not the wisest course of action, ol' buddy, ol' pal. Hidden text in the PAMELA site: Top of page: Aborting standby mode. Initializing main routine. Unarchiving system files. Loading target from config. Re-acquiring target signal. Re-establishing PAMELA network. This may take some time... For assistance, type /helpdoc. >> /helpdoc Photovisual Adaptive Mapping Encrypted-Link Actuator is used to track data flow between nodes. Can operate in single-target tracking or sector-scanning modes. Broad spectrum frequency analysis enabled. Multiple data samples required for triangulation of single signal source/destination. Visual display provides three-dimension coordinate identification (X,Y,Z), parametric signal representation (X:,Y:,Z, and outbound signal frequency (freq). I work well with my sister. Please use responsibly. System Online. Mid page: Reformatting Output. One moment please. Visuals Updated. Launching Protocol "EndGame"... "EndGame" Loaded. Resolving... "EndGame" Unloaded. While it may not be officially "hidden", the text was in black. I thought t would help to post it here as well.