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Hoosonova wrote:
not
only that, but remeber that the one infected an agent like a virus
(twice) that became a rogue program, it could initially cause that same
program to still pop up some where.  Causing two one's to be
running around with no specific agenda but to change an unknown
variable already in an unknown or contrrolled state.

Message Edited by Hoosonova on 08-17-2005 05:39 AM


My head just exploded in a shower of gore. Thanks SMILEY



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Glad I could help Romav:robotvery-happy:


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I think we all, or most of us, assumed that if the one came back he would have to come back for a reason.  Neo was awakened for a reason, and so were the other previous anomolies.  So before the next one shows himself/herself there will have to be some major event to greatly upset the balance between all organizations.

 

I don't think we shall see anything of that magnatude anytime soon. SMILEY

 




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I was lead to believe that there was no control of when a one was awaken, and even so (not like they'll ever take the story there) but where does that leave the rogue program who just doesn't want to be or stay deleted?


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I think that most of you are missing a rather obvious
point.  Each of these system anomolies takes like 100 years to
reoccur.  Does anyone remember the speech Morph gives in
Revolutions? The whole "For One Hundred Years.... blah blah blah"
speech?  Well remember that each time the systemic anomoly occurs,
their purpose is to return to the source and reinsert thier code so it
can "reboot". At that time they remove x number of people to repopulate
zion, because zion has been destroyed.  So I think everyone
looking for a new "One" may have a long wait ahead of them, because
it's not an overnight occurance.  When a "One" dies or completes
it's task, the next "One" doesn't just immediatly pop up.  It's an
anomoly formed by the remainder of an equation that continues to build
over time until it results in a "One". 



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Desc1ple wrote:
I think that
most of you are missing a rather obvious point.  Each of these
system anomolies takes like 100 years to reoccur.  Does anyone
remember the speech Morph gives in Revolutions? The whole "For One
Hundred Years.... blah blah blah" speech?  Well remember that each
time the systemic anomoly occurs, their purpose is to return to the
source and reinsert thier code so it can "reboot". At that time they
remove x number of people to repopulate zion, because zion has been
destroyed.  So I think everyone looking for a new "One" may have a
long wait ahead of them, because it's not an overnight occurance. 
When a "One" dies or completes it's task, the next "One" doesn't just
immediatly pop up.  It's an anomoly formed by the remainder of an
equation that continues to build over time until it results in a "One".




Yeah, I did think of that. However my
reasoning for the chances of another One sooner than previous Matrix
versions is that Neo broke the pattern.  Instead of doing what the
One usually did, Neo made a decision based off love.



I see anything possible now that Zion was not destroyed this time. Perhaps it has confused the system in a way? I don't know.


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The creation of  The One and Smith Virus were the system trying to balance the equation out, when Zion and the Machines were still at war. But since Neo never reset the Matrirx, The One code(Quite Possibly) never got reset.

 

So the purpose of Neo and Smith was to bring balance...in the words of Agent Skinner, May he rest in peace.

 

"The truce brings balance."

 

Also, did anyone think that her name is an Anaogram of Thomas Anderson.


How quickly we forget the words of a dead man....

Did Morpheus not say it was possible that the machines had jacked Neo back into the matrix, and that it was possible that he was a female?





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The "equation" that was unbalanced, was unbalanced
because of the "problem of choice".   Humanity needed a choice
even at a "subconscious level" to be able to leave the Matrix. 

Now,
that equation is balanced because of the nature of the truce, each
person has a real choice to leave if they want.   Therefore
the "One" program is obsolete. 

That being said the RSI of Sarah Edmonton may actually be
Neo.  Not the next "eventuality of the anomoly".  That is
what Morpheus meant when he said that he could be anyone and not even
know who he is.   That this girl is actually a "fake" RSI of
Thomas Anderson/Neo.

Of course, this interpretation sort of
leads to a question about the Cypherites and their goals.  Their
agenda doesn't really make any sense.  If they truly want to
eliminate all possibility of people ever becoming Awakened, then the
Matrix program is crippled with that equation becoming permanently
unbalanced.   So effectively their  success means the
end of the human race.



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now for something completely different.... about the Red eyed agents i think that they r being controled by silver of the elements



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Shouki wrote:

Also, did anyone think that her name is an Anaogram of Thomas Anderson.





Read previous posts much?  That was mentioned on page one of this thread. SMILEY

 


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Romav wrote:


Desc1ple wrote:
I
think that most of you are missing a rather obvious point.  Each
of these system anomolies takes like 100 years to reoccur.  Does
anyone remember the speech Morph gives in Revolutions? The whole "For
One Hundred Years.... blah blah blah" speech?  Well remember that
each time the systemic anomoly occurs, their purpose is to return to
the source and reinsert thier code so it can "reboot". At that time
they remove x number of people to repopulate zion, because zion has
been destroyed.  So I think everyone looking for a new "One" may
have a long wait ahead of them, because it's not an overnight
occurance.  When a "One" dies or completes it's task, the next
"One" doesn't just immediatly pop up.  It's an anomoly formed by
the remainder of an equation that continues to build over time until it
results in a "One".


Yeah, I did
think of that. However my reasoning for the chances of another One
sooner than previous Matrix versions is that Neo broke the
pattern.  Instead of doing what the One usually did, Neo made a
decision based off love.

I see anything possible now that Zion was not destroyed this time. Perhaps it has confused the system in a way? I don't know.


From
what I understand of the Architect's speech, the Anomaly appears when
enough people have refused the programming and been awakened from the
Matrix - consider the rate of this happening before, and the rate of it
happening now. (Basically, the equation becomes more and more
unbalanced when people go against the odds and deny the programming,
hence the Anomaly appears and needs to be re-inserted to the source for
a re-start of the Matrix.)



Because of the truce, bluepills will be much more likely to see strange
events in the matrix that'll make them question things (read past
issues of the Sentinel for this), and the Agent's won't stop us when we
set about freeing those minds, as they have in every previous version
of the matrix. Result: more people are freed, much faster.



So we may have another 'potential' walking around now (I have a theory
that the anomaly more or less creates itself by aquiring a level of
understanding of the matrix equal to what Neo did - which is why the
Oracle had so many potentials she was 'testing', but more on that
another time), and she may turn into a super-powered 'One' given the
right stimulation. That person will then need to be re-inserted and the
matrix re-started - which, I'm guessing, is what will happen at the
climax Paul Chadwick was talking about in an interview a while back...




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thorn, I like your idea that everything is happening much quicker this
time because the amount of Coppertops who are being released from the
Matrix. There are thousands more being released than ever before, and
so it would make sense that the system requires itself to be rebooted
much quicker too.



I hope that's how they explain it if another 'One' emerges very soon.





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If i had all of a sudden decided to move to Seattle i'd probebly try to apply for a job with the SOE live events team.  I tell ya if i were on that team you would see a little bit more progression of the events.  By now we would probebly be well into the 2.2 event(whatever that might be).

 

I just hope they restart the live events soon.


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thornTree wrote:



From what I understand of the Architect's speech, the Anomaly
appears when enough people have refused the programming and been
awakened from the Matrix - consider the rate of this happening before,
and the rate of it happening now. (Basically, the equation becomes more
and more unbalanced when people go against the odds and deny the
programming, hence the Anomaly appears and needs to be re-inserted to
the source for a re-start of the Matrix.)


Good
stuff.  We should remember that Neo  found a solution outside
of the Architect's equation.  As such, the old equation, which
included "The One", may no longer apply, although you can bet that the
Architect is working on a new equation. 



I'd like to see some progress made on the overall conflict of humans
vs. machines.  The new characters/plotlines are interesting, but
being part of the big picture with the main movie characters would be
really cool to me.  For example, I wonder if Sati could play a
part in this.  A true resolution is doubtful, as that might mean
the end of the Matrix, but something with a meaningful impact would be
nice.



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I think that Sarah Edmonton could be neo or she could be a sorta new
morpheus.  Not that she would become a man or anything but that
she would be destined to find the new one.  As for the opposite of
this new one I was thinking the LED agents could be the new opposite
since someone said that they we the imprint of Smith that stayed after
he and neo died.

 
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