Thank you Capt. Niobe. For making things a bit more understandable for us. We are all here to fight the good fight!

Vengeance Rising would be honored to be considered as one of the first fleets to be entered into service for the protection of  New Zion.

Capt. Neopill

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Wrong. The Cycle of the One failed with Neo's emergence. Six Cycles pass and then failure. That's a 15% failure rate. Incredibly inefficient by any Machine standard. The Truce was merely another attempt at maintianing control without resorting to the rreturn of the Cycle of the One which will eventually fail again.

It has always been about control and nothing else.

r3spon5e wrote:

If Zion falls, we're all dead. Fight for the Machines against Zion and you fight for your own death.

Incorrect, we have shown loyalty to the machines and for that we will be spared.

r3spon5e wrote:

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Wrong. The Cycle of the One failed with Neo's emergence. Six Cycles pass and then failure. That's a 15% failure rate. Incredibly inefficient by any Machine standard. The Truce was merely another attempt at maintianing control without resorting to the rreturn of the Cycle of the One which will eventually fail again.

It has always been about control and nothing else.

If its always been about control for Machines what has it been about for Zion?

I did not recall Neo dying so that he can buy Zion 2 years to prepare for war yet again.  This is trully sad and I am embarrased yet again of my human species.  Instead of using those two years to promote more peace and stronger ties, they used it to build more weapons.

And do you think the machine warfactory has been idle?

Satta wrote:

I did not recall Neo dying so that he can buy Zion 2 years to prepare for war yet again.  This is trully sad and I am embarrased yet again of my human species.  Instead of using those two years to promote more peace and stronger ties, they used it to build more weapons.

And do you think the machine warfactory has been idle?

I did not recall Neo dying so that he can buy Zion 2 years to prepare for war yet again.  This is trully sad and I am embarrased yet again of my human species.  Instead of using those two years to promote more peace and stronger ties, they used it to build more weapons.

And exactley what now, have the Machines been doing?................. Stepping on the truce. Thats what!

 It has been and always WAS a form of Machine control. What? YOu didnt expect humans to evolve to this as well? You backed us into a corner, and kept us there for far too long!

 The nerve of you to say something like this! Niobe wasn't labeling Neo's intentions, merely informing us of the fact that what he did and what he fought for is showing its head, finally! 

 He asked for peace? Yes. But I havent seen peace since my awakening. Only an attempt by the Machines to keep your fields full.

Expect Hell. Because thats what you are gonna get!

Capt. Neopill

Vengeance Rising - Protecturate of New Zion

Wrong. The Cycle of the One failed with Neo's emergence. Six Cycles pass and then failure. That's a 15% failure rate. Incredibly inefficient by any Machine standard. The Truce was merely another attempt at maintianing control without resorting to the rreturn of the Cycle of the One which will eventually fail again.

It has always been about control and nothing else.

odj wrote:

r3spon5e wrote:

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Wrong. The Cycle of the One failed with Neo's emergence. Six Cycles pass and then failure. That's a 15% failure rate. Incredibly inefficient by any Machine standard. The Truce was merely another attempt at maintianing control without resorting to the rreturn of the Cycle of the One which will eventually fail again.

It has always been about control and nothing else.

If its always been about control for Machines what has it been about for Zion?

Freedom.

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Truth. Zion protects the truth Neo showed us by not allowing the return to the Cycle of the One.

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Peace. Neo showed us the Machines will not accept change without great motivation to break them of their fixation on control. Yet the Truce was not the Peace Neo asked for. Simply another sign of the Machines fixation on control. If Zion cannot be destroyed, the Machines have to face the reality of working with Zion. Something they have never done before. A change that will take great motivation and sacrifice to promote.

A change that keeps alive the hope of a true peace for all.

Neoteny wrote:

Satta wrote:

I did not recall Neo dying so that he can buy Zion 2 years to prepare for war yet again.  This is trully sad and I am embarrased yet again of my human species.  Instead of using those two years to promote more peace and stronger ties, they used it to build more weapons.

And do you think the machine warfactory has been idle?

No, we do not, because as I recall, we just got finished disposing of the General and his armies.

Ah, that they did.

So what you're saying is that it's perfectly fine for them to build weapons which are readily available and useful in an attack, but it's a Truce-breaking attrocity when we build defensive weaponry?

Again, something just doesn't add up.

r3spon5e wrote:

Wrong. The Cycle of the One failed with Neo's emergence. Six Cycles pass and then failure. That's a 15% failure rate. Incredibly inefficient by any Machine standard. The Truce was merely another attempt at maintianing control without resorting to the rreturn of the Cycle of the One which will eventually fail again.

It has always been about control and nothing else.

To borrow a phrase, a system of control that allows Zion enough freedom to build a secret bunker is "incredibly inefficient."  If they wanted control, Zion would have been wiped out.  The cycle was broken because the machines saw the potential for peace in us.  Neo went to 01 and jacked in directly to their hardware.  They reset the system meaning they got the code they needed out of him, so if they wanted, they could have simply restarted the cycle again.  It would have continued as it always had.

The difference was not that Neo put them in a position where they couldn't continue it.  The difference was that Neo showed them that not all humans are blood thirsty war mongers.  Congratulations for stomping on his legacy.  I'll be sure to thank you with a bullet.

This........coming from a Machine.  You should spend your time researching the Machine objective.  You only want to keep us "humans" down.  Now prices have to be paid, heads have to roll...............heh..........it's the American way!

Lucen wrote:

r3spon5e wrote:

Wrong. The Cycle of the One failed with Neo's emergence. Six Cycles pass and then failure. That's a 15% failure rate. Incredibly inefficient by any Machine standard. The Truce was merely another attempt at maintianing control without resorting to the rreturn of the Cycle of the One which will eventually fail again.

It has always been about control and nothing else.

To borrow a phrase, a system of control that allows Zion enough freedom to build a secret bunker is "incredibly inefficient."  If they wanted control, Zion would have been wiped out.  The cycle was broken because the machines saw the potential for peace in us.  Neo went to 01 and jacked in directly to their hardware.  They reset the system meaning they got the code they needed out of him, so if they wanted, they could have simply restarted the cycle again.  It would have continued as it always had.

The difference was not that Neo put them in a position where they couldn't continue it.  The difference was that Neo showed them that not all humans are blood thirsty war mongers.  Congratulations for stomping on his legacy.  I'll be sure to thank you with a bullet.

Zion is not the ones screaming about not being able to destroy Zion at the drop of a hat.

The Machines never gave peace a chance, violated the Truce repeatedly and have attacked Zion without any proof of a threat to 01 or the System. 

Ignorance runs rampant in the Collective. It has always been so. Welcome back Lucen.

  The difference was that Neo showed them that not all humans are blood thirsty war mongers.  I'll be sure to thank you with a bullet.