LESIG [Yep, another LESIG thread made by NT]

**NightTrace** · 07/08/2007 05:36:48

The overall job of LESIG is interaction. They are the people whose job's are to make sure that the time spent between Critical Missions and/or Live Events has a high enough level of interaction with storyline elements to keep their assigned organizations feeling active.

Some members have shown that they understand that:

Zeissman - Clocks some time in at least every day, most days multiple hours at a time.

Merrit - Merrit puts in about six+ hours a week, not the most active, but it provides a solid amount of time for interaction, and Merrit even interacts with those outside of her org, which picks up the slack of others.

ExIvy - ExIvy I sometimes think doesn't have all the time available that they would like to have, but when she does jack in, she is always ready to talk to people. She's set up small events off the top of her head, and recognizes the sluggish feeling that players get without that interaction.

Other people don't though. Eventual and Torman [Recursion Mech Liaisons] while they have shown improvement, are not even close to being up to par I'm afraid. While an hour a week between the two of them is a step above not logging in at all for close to three months, it doesn't provide the level of interaction that keeps the Machinist organization feeling active. They have said IC that they have no interest in leveling [which right there would provide hours+ worth of interaction by the time they finished], and when invited to things such as TC's Party, they even said they had no interest in attending parties. What do they have interest in then? It is quite obviously not meeting the goals of the LESIG/Liaison program. While I can say I have enjoyed speaking to the both of them, when I have a chance to. Those chances are few and far between.

Most recently a faction mate of mine, Fenshire, spoke to Eventual, in regards to a LESIG event that he had become involved with through interaction with Merrit. Eventual spoke to him that single time, and apparently gave him some lip service about putting in a request to the "higher ups" etc. Nothing came of it, and by the time the next phase of this event came up? Eventual had not logged in again, and if he had, decided to not respond to Fenshires e-mails in game.

Now, my question in the end comes down to this, why is it that its so easy for someone like me [An outsider of LESIG], to have a higher understanding of the goals of the program, and why is it that people that have proven themselves to either A.) be unwilling to strive toward those goals, or B.) Be unable to achieve those goals are still in the program? The Machine org on recursion has been getting the shaft regarding this entire program since LESIG 2.0 started. Why has nothing been done to fix this? Showing up an hour a week, standing semi-AFK at an org meeting is not being a Liaison. Having the effort to post "I'm here" does not mean you are doing your job as a LESIG member.

People need to be replaced, or step down.

**ZippyTheSquirrel**

Rarebit makes a point not to pick well-known or talkative players for induction into LESIG, because their sudden and unexplained absence would be too suspicious. Therefore he picks players according to their general ability to not be recognized across servers; unfortunately, that leads into some players that just don't give a s**t. Or, at least, that's what I tell myself whenever I see LESIG do something stupid. Meh well.

**Xboxster**

NightTrace wrote:

People need to be replaced, or step down.

One would think this would be the thing to do. More likely, they'll just get another message telling them to try to be more active...again.

**NightTrace**

Thats all well and good, but that doesn't answer the question of why people are still in despite months of repeated no showing and/or failing to meet the programs overall goals.

I know one of the main points of the events etc now is to just get the new storyline elements pushed out there so that the posts can be made, the crits can come out, and the story can continue, but there has to be something somewhere that says that as this is a game that we pay to play, that its supposed to be fun.

If you are in LESIG and cannot meet the programs goals, you need to step down. If you cant bring yourself to lose the "1337" status, you need to be replaced, weather Rarebit likes confrontation or not.

**Fen**

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I'd like to add that Rylet and Toluca also do a great job with LESIG. Rylet hasn't been around much lately (probably the player is on vacation), but he has spent some time logging in. I also see Toluca on at least once a day, and when she went on vacation, actually came up with an RP reason for it.

Very nice work to those guys.

In reference to NT, I think you got confused between me being angry IC, and me being angry OOC. Eventual never gave me any lip for requesting aid. Actually, he seemed genuinely interested in helping me out, however, after a week's notice, I never got a single update. I saw him very briefly on Wednesday evening, when he told me that he was "compiling data for [me] now". Then, he promptly logged off, and I still haven't seen him since. I sent him an email the morning of the deadline date that I needed the information, and never got a response.

During the event, I asked a security guard if I had access to the information I had requested of Eventual, to which the guard responded no. I had asked if Eventual had put in a request for the information, which I was told no. The anger you got from me, NT, was that my character was pissed off that Eventual had apparently lied to him. That Eventual had seemingly no interest in helping Fenshire assist Merrit.

OOC, I really wasn't pissed because it worked with my current RP, and I ended up having fun anyway.

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~Fen's controller

**Yasamuu**

Fen wrote:

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I'd like to add that Rylet and Toluca also do a great job with LESIG. Rylet hasn't been around much lately (probably the player is on vacation), but he has spent some time logging in. I also see Toluca on at least once a day, and when she went on vacation, actually came up with an RP reason for it.
Very nice work to those guys.
In reference to NT, I think you got confused between me being angry IC, and me being angry OOC. Eventual never gave me any lip for requesting aid. Actually, he seemed genuinely interested in helping me out, however, after a week's notice, I never got a single update. I saw him very briefly on Wednesday evening, when he told me that he was "compiling data for [me] now". Then, he promptly logged off, and I still haven't seen him since. I sent him an email the morning of the deadline date that I needed the information, and never got a response.
During the event, I asked a security guard if I had access to the information I had requested of Eventual, to which the guard responded no. I had asked if Eventual had put in a request for the information, which I was told no. The anger you got from me, NT, was that my character was pissed off that Eventual had apparently lied to him. That Eventual had seemingly no interest in helping Fenshire assist Merrit.
OOC, I really wasn't pissed because it worked with my current RP, and I ended up having fun anyway.
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~Fen's controller

((If your current RP is to go Zion...I'll cry SMILEY

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**NightTrace** · 07/08/2007 05:54:35

Fen wrote:

((OOC, I really wasn't pissed because it worked with my current RP, and I ended up having fun anyway))

I know you had fun, but because of the overall lack of participation from the Mech Liaisons? You're character is being steadily pushed away from the org, and to Zion. Thats stupid. Not on you're part for getting influenced IC by RP etc, but that it is seemingly o.k. for this kind of thing to continue. Why should it be alright for the overall lack of interaction to be approved?

**Fen** · 07/08/2007 05:58:33

Hey, did you guys hear about the new award they're going to be giving Machine operatives that do well in events?

It's called the BOHICA award!

Bend Over Here It Comes Again.

EDIT: I spelled "hear" wrong... *facepalm*

**NightTrace**

heh...It's funny cause thats how it feels to be a Mech SMILEY

**Ic3b3rg**

(( Ya i was there for that event, I dont see why a mech Liasion wont help you out fenshire when it would benefit the machines. I am sure LESIG knew that the event would have hostile Guards for us to attack if neccassary, but if we had the access to the file we could have avoided the bloodshed.

You guys need to come over to the dark side and join zion, we have real Liasions SMILEY ))

**odj**

Ic3b3rg wrote:

(( You guys need to come over to the dark side and join zion, we have real Liaisons ))

That's the whole point of this thread, we shouldn't have to go zion just because our Liaisons are crap, we should be allowed to have a choice of which side we want to represent and then have Liaisons that do their job and back us up.

**Yasamuu**

I know I'd play on here much more if the liaisons were active enough. I know I didn't hit 50 here for pvp reasons.

**Fen**

Yasamuu1 wrote:

I know I'd play on here much more if the liaisons were active enough. I know I didn't hit 50 here for pvp reasons.

You told me you were here for me! >=O

Betch!

**NightTrace**

odj wrote:

Ic3b3rg wrote:
(( You guys need to come over to the dark side and join zion, we have real Liaisons ))
That's the whole point of this thread, we shouldn't have to go zion just because our Liaisons are crap, we should be allowed to have a choice of which side we want to represent and then have Liaisons that do their job and back us up.

QFT

**Yasamuu**

Fen wrote:

Yasamuu1 wrote:
I know I'd play on here much more if the liaisons were active enough. I know I didn't hit 50 here for pvp reasons.

You told me you were here for me! >=O

Betch!

At which point did I say I wasn't ;P