What side are you on again?

Sotirios wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Catalyn wrote:

ChloeAnn wrote:

Hmph. Not a smart idea, dearies. Guess we'll have to keep a better eye on you kids.

You can watch us all you want to, but that will not stop us...

Your all mouth Catalyn.

And what does that leave you, my friend

Someone who takes action. You know that all to well.

 You take action? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, you sit on your fat *CENSORED* most the time, I have yet to see you make a difference in anything. The only thing you do is keep gasing on and on. Your are pointless and it's the wonder that the Machines put up with you, Coward. 

Othinn1 wrote:

   It's always funny to see the Cypherites rage against an inherent function of the Matrix (the removal of people who become aware of the simulation) due to their belief that they're helping people avoid the pain of the real world.  Only Cypherites receive this pain.  There are plenty who clearly got past this pain (assuming they ever had it at all).

   Also, doesn't it kind of kill off Cypherite recruitment?  Like I said, the real world gives them pain, so they became Cypherites.  But if you're not letting people experience the pain of the real world, then there's no new Cypherites, right?

The Cypherite paradox.

Not removeing blues kills the system they want to protect and their own recruitment.
Allowing them to be removed defeats the purpose of being a cyph.

Whats a cyph to do?

It's not as much of a paradox as you might believe, dear.

The truth is we cannot prevent every awakening.  Those who want out will always find a way, sadly.  However, we do our best to filter that but it is not within our resources to prevent every single occurence.  Instead, we choose to work against those who seek to disturb their slumber.

As you've already noted, it certainly does hinder the expansion of our numbers.  Rest assured though,  we're happy with that.  We'd much rather be short-handed than overwhelmed with an army of disgruntled redpills.  That would sorely imply we weren't doing our jobs.

It's a double-edged sword.  There's no doubt about it.  Yet here we stand, despite the disadvantage it yields, to oppose your order until the very end.

GamiSB wrote:

Othinn1 wrote:

   It's always funny to see the Cypherites rage against an inherent function of the Matrix (the removal of people who become aware of the simulation) due to their belief that they're helping people avoid the pain of the real world.  Only Cypherites receive this pain.  There are plenty who clearly got past this pain (assuming they ever had it at all).

   Also, doesn't it kind of kill off Cypherite recruitment?  Like I said, the real world gives them pain, so they became Cypherites.  But if you're not letting people experience the pain of the real world, then there's no new Cypherites, right?

The Cypherite paradox.

Not removeing blues kills the system they want to protect and their own recruitment.
Allowing them to be removed defeats the purpose of being a cyph.

Whats a cyph to do?

It's not as much of a paradox as you might believe, dear.

The truth is we cannot prevent every awakening.  Those who want out will always find a way, sadly.  However, we do our best to filter that but it is not within our resources to prevent every single occurence.  Instead, we choose to work against those who seek to disturb their slumber.

As you've already noted, it certainly does hinder the expansion of our numbers.  Rest assured though,  we're happy with that.  We'd much rather be short-handed than overwhelmed with an army of disgruntled redpills.  That would sorely imply we weren't doing our jobs.

It's a double-edged sword.  There's no doubt about it.  Yet here we stand, despite the disadvantage it yields, to oppose your order until the very end.

You still don't see it? However we perceive them to be, it's about giving not our wants. We're doing it so they can be given something that they are otherwise denied of their whole lives--so they can be given a choice they are without. Questioning our ethics in doing just that won't change anything.

As for what's best for them, it's just as relative to what they are being denied, nothing makes one more just than the other. We consider what's best for them more than some would think, but I don't expect you to comprehend that either.

~F

Havocide wrote:

Sotirios wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Catalyn wrote:

ChloeAnn wrote:

Hmph. Not a smart idea, dearies. Guess we'll have to keep a better eye on you kids.

You can watch us all you want to, but that will not stop us...

Your all mouth Catalyn.

And what does that leave you, my friend

Someone who takes action. You know that all to well.

 

 You take action? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, you sit on your fat *CENSORED* most the time, I have yet to see you make a difference in anything. The only thing you do is keep gasing on and on. Your are pointless and it's the wonder that the Machines put up with you, Coward. 

I was unaware our actions required any explanation.  Ultimately, we will continue to do what we feel is right, just as you will do the same.  If your preference is to endlessly rationalize and contextualize our actions, then so be it.

I guess incessant analytics from a machine shouldn't surprise me.

 
Status Report: Stanley Morton


EPN  operatives have made  contact with Stanley Morton, a  hot  dog  vendor  from the Maribeau district. I wish to commend  the operatives that were present for putting him  at  ease.
       Mr. Morton  was amicable , and appears open  to  further discussions. However, operatives  are advised to proceed with caution, as Mr. Morton  needs to make the decision  for himself in regards  to taking the red pill.


Operatives are  encouraged  to  continue  interacting with Mr.Morton  when  the opportunity presents itself.

Catalyn

GamiSB wrote:

Othinn1 wrote:

   It's always funny to see the Cypherites rage against an inherent function of the Matrix (the removal of people who become aware of the simulation) due to their belief that they're helping people avoid the pain of the real world.  Only Cypherites receive this pain.  There are plenty who clearly got past this pain (assuming they ever had it at all).

   Also, doesn't it kind of kill off Cypherite recruitment?  Like I said, the real world gives them pain, so they became Cypherites.  But if you're not letting people experience the pain of the real world, then there's no new Cypherites, right?

The Cypherite paradox.

Not removeing blues kills the system they want to protect and their own recruitment.
Allowing them to be removed defeats the purpose of being a cyph.

Whats a cyph to do?

It's not as much of a paradox as you might believe, dear.

The truth is we cannot prevent every awakening.  Those who want out will always find a way, sadly.  However, we do our best to filter that but it is not within our resources to prevent every single occurence.  Instead, we choose to work against those who seek to disturb their slumber.

As you've already noted, it certainly does hinder the expansion of our numbers.  Rest assured though,  we're happy with that.  We'd much rather be short-handed than overwhelmed with an army of disgruntled redpills.  That would sorely imply we weren't doing our jobs.

It's a double-edged sword.  There's no doubt about it.  Yet here we stand, despite the disadvantage it yields, to oppose your order until the very end.

Sotirios wrote:

I was unaware our actions required any explanation.  Ultimately, we will continue to do what we feel is right, just as you will do the same.  If your preference is to endlessly rationalize and contextualize our actions, then so be it.

I guess incessant analytics from a machine shouldn't surprise me.

Apparently I'm not expected to comprehend how you consider what's best for the bluepills despite my being 'analytical', it's all too easy to say I couldn't comprehend and then not try, it simply shows apprehension in case I do. Besides I wasn't asking you, I was asking someone more articulate than you.

Still, the unremitting votary ramblings from a terrorist doesn't surprise me.

 
Status Report: Stanley Morton


EPN  operatives have made  contact with Stanley Morton, a  hot  dog  vendor  from the Maribeau district. I wish to commend  the operatives that were present for putting him  at  ease.
       Mr. Morton  was amicable , and appears open  to  further discussions. However, operatives  are advised to proceed with caution, as Mr. Morton  needs to make the decision  for himself in regards  to taking the red pill.


Operatives are  encouraged  to  continue  interacting with Mr.Morton  when  the opportunity presents itself.

Catalyn

Log Entry #3 05/10

Name: Theresa Morton

Status: Maintain contact

Yesterday, a small number of our operatives were first able to approach Theresa at the plaza in the north area of Tabor Park. After accompanying her to a nearby bar she later returned to her apartment to get some rest.

While more intel on who was responsible for her husbands killing is still needed, contact should be maintained with Theresa and her safety monitored at any opportunity.

~F