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 11/11/2007 10:39:07
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Systemic Anomaly
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It's 5.3.5
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 11/11/2007 12:28:14
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Vindicator
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GoDGiVeR wrote:
Procurator wrote:
Ballak wrote:
Here's an idea. The Real is a Matrix inside of a Matrix, so we wouldn't really need water because it's being fed to us into our pod! Urgh, yellow pill. *Grimaces.*
That idea is 1. old, 2. much more difficult than that. By being freed one time into a gruel enviroment, nobody will think that this is just another form of control (in form of a matrix, not in form of a city of "hope" " width="15" height="15" />. Since the "Real World" is more stable than the Matrix, only Neo was able to utilize the powers (though there are many theories on how; I prefer the Cyborg of theory from zeroone actually).
Also what Gami said, you don't realize the truth as a bluepill, because you hunger if you don't eat and drink, now do you? The pods only feed equally to what you do in the Matrix.
But anyways, yellow pills, haven't see anyone of them 'round for a long time.
It was sarcasm. 
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 11/11/2007 12:35:04
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Ascendent Logic
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Dinner time in New Zion! Come and get it!

YUM YUM!
It looks to me as if that is 100% fungus and "fleshy roots," stuff that grows with no sunlight.
In Enter the Matrix, Sparks asks Niobe and Ghost "When I cart your dead bodies back to Zion, do you prefer cremation or the gardens?" This might imply that areas of soil are kept fertile enough for growing fungus by adding... organic matter which is no longer being used.
Message edited by PS10N on 11/11/2007 12:43:45.
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 11/12/2007 04:39:52
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Jacked Out
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Fractor wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
A better question is where do Mervs get their water?
Yea and the Machines. It isn't clear if they get their food and water in the same way as Zion. Do the Machines actually help Machinists in the real with food and water? Also they make fun of Zion for living in caves and eating gruel but how do we know they don't do that too?
I'm fairly certain there's more than just gruel. The elevator scene in Reloaded seems to imply this.
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 11/13/2007 01:21:35
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Jacked Out
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ZeroPheonix wrote:
Fractor wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
A better question is where do Mervs get their water?
Yea and the Machines. It isn't clear if they get their food and water in the same way as Zion. Do the Machines actually help Machinists in the real with food and water? Also they make fun of Zion for living in caves and eating gruel but how do we know they don't do that too?
I'm fairly certain there's more than just gruel. The elevator scene in Reloaded seems to imply this.
There's an entire matrix comic about a guy who grows wheat on the surface. It's not just gruel. The gruel is probably just for the HvCFTs, as it keeps forever, and is all they need.
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 01/06/2008 22:04:51
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Kybutra wrote:
Procurator wrote:
I know. " /> I was trying to imply that their water is recycled urine. 
 BECAUSE IT'S STERILE AND I LIKE THE TASTE
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 01/06/2008 22:49:47
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Ascendent Logic
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Chemuel wrote:
ZeroPheonix wrote:
Fractor wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
A better question is where do Mervs get their water?
Yea and the Machines. It isn't clear if they get their food and water in the same way as Zion. Do the Machines actually help Machinists in the real with food and water? Also they make fun of Zion for living in caves and eating gruel but how do we know they don't do that too?
I'm fairly certain there's more than just gruel. The elevator scene in Reloaded seems to imply this.
There's an entire matrix comic about a guy who grows wheat on the surface. It's not just gruel. The gruel is probably just for the HvCFTs, as it keeps forever, and is all they need.
You know I think that's more closer to the truth than you might believe. I know in a previous post I jokingly said "and a greenhouse couldn't hurt" but now that I think about it, it wouldn't be totally out of the realm of possibility. Consider this, we know that there is a strong possibility that almost all animal life has been wiped out during the wars (I still think the rats and bugs probably made it though). Any agriculture was almost definitely wiped out due to the sun being blocked. Now although all of this was happening it would stand to reason that some one or someone's got together before the big blackout and decided that perhaps it would be a good idea to get a couple of tons of seeds and good earth just in case , oh well they might want to build a greenhouse.
Another way to go at this would be that since the Machines built (or re-built) Zion they knew that the only way for the city to thrive was a constant food supply. Who knows, maybe they have stores of seedlings just for that purpose.
The thing about water is interesting as well, in a place like Zion it wouldn't be too hard to get fresh water, even if it is recycled. You have plenty of rocks and minerals to sterilize the water. As far as the getting water from snow or ice on the surface, therein lies a question I have always had. If the skies are darkened, the average temperature should drop significantly (theoretically of course) wouldn't that constitute for a second Ice Age?
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