Hyper Jumping > Backpeddling?

Havocide

Haxadec wrote:

In my opinion; the objective of a war is to survive, the objective of PVP is to fight to the death and then recon. Running/HJing away is boring; and if you do either then you have already lost.

Maybe but some would prefer to not have the DE for five mins or whatever. So prefer to preserve their life, then return at full health minus no DE

**Yasamuu**

Only to jump away again, the cycle continues until the numbers favour them.

**Sphairo**

I don't mind the people that jump away or run away for a short time out of the PVP radius, either to put a disguise on or set up a snipe, etc.. it's the ones that jump and jump and jump as far as possible, clearly backing away from the fight that are frustrating!

**Grace of Darkness**

People get mad at hyperjumping because they lost a potential kill. It's the same with people running away with HS on. I personally don't have a problem with that, because you can always catch up. It's the people that hardline to the loading area or some other random hardline. The backpeddeling is an exploit and should be reported if seen. People that usually cry over hyper jumping are the ones that don't have it loaded, have the zerg, or they are too lazy to chase you. The people that never hyperjump, they just play the game strictly for pvp and will load/use hyperjump on the occasion that they decide to participate in an L.E. . People that don't load hyperjump do it for the 3 extra points they get or they have beta jump.

**Marias**

Grace of Darkness wrote:

People get mad at hyperjumping because they lost a potential kill. It's the same with people running away with HS on. I personally don't have a problem with that, because you can always catch up. It's the people that hardline to the loading area or some other random hardline. The backpeddeling is an exploit and should be reported if seen. People that usually cry over hyper jumping are the ones that don't have it loaded, have the zerg, or they are too lazy to chase you. The people that never hyperjump, they just play the game strictly for pvp and will load/use hyperjump on the occasion that they decide to participate in an L.E. . People that don't load hyperjump do it for the 3 extra points they get or they have beta jump.

How is backpeddling an Exploit?

**Sphairo**

Only reason I have hyperjump loaded is to loa hyper speed up because people run away all the time. >.<

**Grace of Darkness**

Trayen1 wrote:

Grace of Darkness wrote:
People get mad at hyperjumping because they lost a potential kill. It's the same with people running away with HS on. I personally don't have a problem with that, because you can always catch up. It's the people that hardline to the loading area or some other random hardline. The backpeddeling is an exploit and should be reported if seen. People that usually cry over hyper jumping are the ones that don't have it loaded, have the zerg, or they are too lazy to chase you. The people that never hyperjump, they just play the game strictly for pvp and will load/use hyperjump on the occasion that they decide to participate in an L.E. . People that don't load hyperjump do it for the 3 extra points they get or they have beta jump.
How is backpeddling an Exploit?

It's not part of the system design for that ability. It's the same thing as the switch tactic exploit. You are not supposed to be able use hyper jump while in mid-air, that's why sometimes backpeddling works and sometimes it doesn't. It's used as a tatic to get an unfair advantage over you opponent. I've seen it happen in cr1 as well (this was also discussed back then), a person jumps to get away and someone chases after them. Well the person chasing them ia following them while they fly through the air, you backpeddle and suddenly your behind them and able to go the other way.

**Ballak**

GamiSB wrote:

Something that always confused me when it came to pvp and people complaning about hyper jump was that they never talk about backpeddling or running away. There almost the same thing really and sometimes running can be faster then a HJ but you never see any threads with people asking to nerf Hyper Speed. So figured I'd ask why that is.
What makes Hyperjumping more of a pvp taboo then running away?
(please keep it civil)

I get complained about running when my load doesn't even use HJ. I try not to run across districts, but you never know. Sometimes they get spaced out from chasing you can then you can beat them easy 1v1. It's all a matter of standards, really.

**Garu**

There will always be complaints but why fault someone for wishing to preserve their own life? I fight against zergs a lot so why would I be obligated to make it easy on them? SMILEY

I guess HJing is deemed worse because at least with running they can catch up, break shield and gank.

**Pylat**

Those who fight my hacker have probly come to notice that half my debuffs immobilise, stun or slow you in some way. No HJ problems for me, and if they do jump away it's my own fault for letting them get away. Besides, that's one less person to fight and half the effort taken to dispatch them.

**GypsyJuggler**

Grace; The term 'backpedaling' in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.

**Grace of Darkness**

GypsyJuggler wrote:

Grace; The term 'backpedaling' in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.

That weird I thought the title was "backpeddling" hmmm, my bad I guess...

**GamiSB**

nah, just my amazing skillz at typeos =P

**Marias**

Grace of Darkness wrote:

GypsyJuggler wrote:
Grace; The term 'backpedaling' in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.
That weird I thought the title was "backpeddling" hmmm, my bad I guess...

Yeah, I was referring to just running backwards. I suppose that I can understand why the Hyper Jump technique mentioned would be considered an Exploit, but unless you're doing it at the peak of your jump, it shouldn't be much of an issue. At that point, you just have less distance to run to catch up to them.

**GypsyJuggler** · 10/01/2007 01:50:07

Grace of Darkness wrote:

GypsyJuggler wrote:
Grace; The term 'backpedaling' in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.
That weird I thought the title was "backpeddling" hmmm, my bad I guess...

Yes, I used the spelling I did partly because I'm a cyclist and partly because 'peddle' means 'to sell from door to door'. According to my Collins dictionary we should use the term 'back-pedal' which means 'to retract' (or 'to modify a previous opinion').

Edited to remove an unwanted smiley.