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Ascendent Logic

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OK so as some of you may have seen I've finally reach 50 yippy! And I've started pvping. But I'm have a problem sometimes on killing quickly enough before say someone comes to help them or they heal roll ect... Normally I can kill just fine but with time.

So I'd like some tips on killing faster along with if you'd like tips on your load outs or cloths especially well rounded cloths so I'd stop having to change so much during random fights. Thanks in advance...

 

HAh forgot to mention I'm MKT...


Message edited by Zeac on 01/05/2008 14:10:47.



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1. What do you use: Martial Arts, Guns, MKT, Hacker?
2. You can try boosting your defenses against those attacks with Quicksilver gloves and/or Trolls Hide.
3. Try getting more resistances against all 4 attack types.
4. With MA, Guns, MKT, Hacker, there are attacks/debuffs that lower your enemy's resistance and/or defense. Use those attacks with others in combos to add more damage.



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If your MKT, you could use your Roots to stop run aways, daze/subduing throw to stun them, stagger/throat cutting throw to powerless and off balance/deadly throw to cause double damage.  As mentioned, quicksilvers are a good thing to cover yourself against all 4 types of attacks.

One of the obvious quick kills for MKT is Punt or Suplex, then Paralyzing throw, Throat Cutting Throw and Deadly Throw and mabey a leg sweep(?) and very few people will be standing after that combination.  A super quick kill for MKT is have a friend load SMGs and Suplex your victim then they can unload a Full Auto Redux SMILEY




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If you estimate your oponent's set attributes and resistances, the quickest way to kill depends on what their weaknesses are.


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TheShickle wrote:
If you estimate your oponent's set attributes and resistances, the quickest way to kill depends on what their weaknesses are.
This is true too.

MA<Guns<MKT<Hacker<MA



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PUNT


Systemic Anomaly

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Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.



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RemagDiv wrote:
Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.
Sniper's hit or miss. If you miss, you're going to have to either jump and try again or die. Depends if you like getting *poop*-talked too or not. Unless of course, you sacrifice some damage to have interlock moves, but if you're using Sniper, it's a great possibility that you're overly outnumbered to begin with and interlock is pointless.



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Ballak wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.
Sniper's hit or miss. If you miss, you're going to have to either jump and try again or die. Depends if you like getting *CENSORED*-talked too or not. Unless of course, you sacrifice some damage to have interlock moves, but if you're using Sniper, it's a great possibility that you're overly outnumbered to begin with and interlock is pointless.

It is the ultimate support class, offensively. Yes, I get smack talked a lot since I have to run and conceal in different locations, but that's the payoff. While it has amazing damage and range, you have no Interlock prowess, and it takes a long time to set up. Plus, like you mentioned, you always have the chance to miss, and when that happens, you're screwed, but I usually continue to free fire and hope I get Staggered for TRB. If I see anyone home in on me, I jet and repeat.



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RemagDiv wrote:
Ballak wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.
Sniper's hit or miss. If you miss, you're going to have to either jump and try again or die. Depends if you like getting *CENSORED*-talked too or not. Unless of course, you sacrifice some damage to have interlock moves, but if you're using Sniper, it's a great possibility that you're overly outnumbered to begin with and interlock is pointless.

It is the ultimate support class, offensively. Yes, I get smack talked a lot since I have to run and conceal in different locations, but that's the payoff. While it has amazing damage and range, you have no Interlock prowess, and it takes a long time to set up. Plus, like you mentioned, you always have the chance to miss, and when that happens, you're screwed, but I usually continue to free fire and hope I get Staggered for TRB. If I see anyone home in on me, I jet and repeat.
*cough* It's good for CQ competitions. SMILEY



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RemagDiv wrote:
Ballak wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.
Sniper's hit or miss. If you miss, you're going to have to either jump and try again or die. Depends if you like getting *CENSORED*-talked too or not. Unless of course, you sacrifice some damage to have interlock moves, but if you're using Sniper, it's a great possibility that you're overly outnumbered to begin with and interlock is pointless.

It is the ultimate support class, offensively. Yes, I get smack talked a lot since I have to run and conceal in different locations, but that's the payoff. While it has amazing damage and range, you have no Interlock prowess, and it takes a long time to set up. Plus, like you mentioned, you always have the chance to miss, and when that happens, you're screwed, but I usually continue to free fire and hope I get Staggered for TRB. If I see anyone home in on me, I jet and repeat.
I guess I'm the only sniper that doesn't run or jump. lol I just try and duke it out with whatever is trying to IL me.



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Gerik wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Ballak wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.
Sniper's hit or miss. If you miss, you're going to have to either jump and try again or die. Depends if you like getting *CENSORED*-talked too or not. Unless of course, you sacrifice some damage to have interlock moves, but if you're using Sniper, it's a great possibility that you're overly outnumbered to begin with and interlock is pointless.

It is the ultimate support class, offensively. Yes, I get smack talked a lot since I have to run and conceal in different locations, but that's the payoff. While it has amazing damage and range, you have no Interlock prowess, and it takes a long time to set up. Plus, like you mentioned, you always have the chance to miss, and when that happens, you're screwed, but I usually continue to free fire and hope I get Staggered for TRB. If I see anyone home in on me, I jet and repeat.
I guess I'm the only sniper that doesn't run or jump. lol I just try and duke it out with whatever is trying to IL me.
You're not alone Gerik, the only reason I load HJ with my sniper loadout is for hyperspeed so I can keep up with runners/jumpers.

BTW, Sniper Shot --> Jump = No Skill.



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Pylat wrote:
Gerik wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Ballak wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.
Sniper's hit or miss. If you miss, you're going to have to either jump and try again or die. Depends if you like getting *CENSORED*-talked too or not. Unless of course, you sacrifice some damage to have interlock moves, but if you're using Sniper, it's a great possibility that you're overly outnumbered to begin with and interlock is pointless.

It is the ultimate support class, offensively. Yes, I get smack talked a lot since I have to run and conceal in different locations, but that's the payoff. While it has amazing damage and range, you have no Interlock prowess, and it takes a long time to set up. Plus, like you mentioned, you always have the chance to miss, and when that happens, you're screwed, but I usually continue to free fire and hope I get Staggered for TRB. If I see anyone home in on me, I jet and repeat.
I guess I'm the only sniper that doesn't run or jump. lol I just try and duke it out with whatever is trying to IL me.
You're not alone Gerik, the only reason I load HJ with my sniper loadout is for hyperspeed so I can keep up with runners/jumpers.

BTW, Sniper Shot --> Jump = No Skill.
I depend on the situation. If I fail a Sniper Shot and its just one mere other person.. ill go all out.
HOWEVER If so said other person calls in some backup. I try to get them stranded and singled out. Mostly by jumping from place to place to get those that will make chase chase for my time to recoup.. Yes that does mean i hyper jump but only to get those on me off of me and let those persistent for a CQ.. well.. we know what mostly happens then >_<

Message edited by Avalod on 01/14/2008 02:10:17.



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Avalod wrote:
Pylat wrote:
Gerik wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Ballak wrote:
RemagDiv wrote:
Sniper by far.

I can kill a level 50 within 10 seconds, usually less depending on their loadout/BR.
Sniper's hit or miss. If you miss, you're going to have to either jump and try again or die. Depends if you like getting *CENSORED*-talked too or not. Unless of course, you sacrifice some damage to have interlock moves, but if you're using Sniper, it's a great possibility that you're overly outnumbered to begin with and interlock is pointless.

It is the ultimate support class, offensively. Yes, I get smack talked a lot since I have to run and conceal in different locations, but that's the payoff. While it has amazing damage and range, you have no Interlock prowess, and it takes a long time to set up. Plus, like you mentioned, you always have the chance to miss, and when that happens, you're screwed, but I usually continue to free fire and hope I get Staggered for TRB. If I see anyone home in on me, I jet and repeat.
I guess I'm the only sniper that doesn't run or jump. lol I just try and duke it out with whatever is trying to IL me.
You're not alone Gerik, the only reason I load HJ with my sniper loadout is for hyperspeed so I can keep up with runners/jumpers.

BTW, Sniper Shot --> Jump = No Skill.
I depend on the situation. If I fail a Sniper Shot and its just one mere other person.. ill go all out.
HOWEVER If so said other person calls in some backup. I try to get them stranded and singled out. Mostly by jumping from place to place to get those that will make chase chase for my time to recoup.. Yes that does mean i hyper jump but only to get those on me off of me and let those persistent for a CQ.. well.. we know what mostly happens then >_<
Yeah, they own you

If you can't kill someone in 10 seconds using ER/sniper then you shouldnt be using ER/sniper.  There are certain conditions that call for this and if they aren't the right condition change your LO, charge in and go all out, and stop being a *CENSORED*.  If the numbers are too much call in some backup, sometimes you just can't get an easy kill, deal with it and figure out how to kill them or go to Tabor West and RP.


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Best way to kill someone is to work with someone on a team. Just get someone to break their shield then pop out of sneak and BOOM, hit the punt and *CENSORED* them up.

Simple SMILEY

If alone however, stay in sneak and keep popping out to get your most damaging moves. Regardless of what these 'Hyper Jumpers' will tell you, you can outroll in combat and cause alot of damage with the right clothes. MKT brings alot of accuracy so you should be able to outroll. I outroll very well, but against MKT, I'm struggling. The only weakness MKT does have is their resistance to say MA, that can be avoided if your smart.

I am not MKT, I am simply speaking of experience, I don't believe jumping does anything, if anything jumping ruins your numbers, and befundles you, while the enemy heals up.

Sorry for the HJ slurs, I just don't want to see another Hyper Jumping MKT!

TH

 
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