Risen Triad/Forsaken...

**PBlade**

Tytanya_MxO wrote:
A merov faction
gets to have the numbers on its side about once in every 20 battles and
yet this thread seems only interested in abusing that group. This
attitude has been the lame and consistent response of EVERY zion
faction I have encountered since day 1, not one has shown
themslves willing to face a challenge and employ any degree of
skill or strategy other than call in their mates to resolve it (unlike
the movies where zion, the protagonist always faced the odds). Lets
make sure the blame and the shame rests squarely where it belongs!

Well then, I said I wouldn't bi*ch about The Forsakened/Risen Trial, but I will defend myself as a zionist agains these remarks.

I am afraid I cannot speak for every zion group, I will grant leway
here, as some zion factions do have that lame and consistent response
you described. However, to stereotype every zionite like this is wrong,
and in all honesty, audacious. When I die, I die, I reconstruct, no
matter what the odds, if it's 5 on one, I reconstruct no questions, no
moans, if I die 1 on 1, I reconstruct slower, usually to say "gf". I
also know of many others, in the Children of Zion and in other
factions, who do the same.

I would ask for you to withdraw that comment, but chances are you will not, so I will just stay adamant in the face of it.

Mentormikez

Shut up and pass me a glass, no sense letting all this whine go to waste.

bloodraven951 wrote:
Wow...thats
all I can say. A lvl 50 and lvl 49 from Risen Triad attack a lvl 47,
42, and 36 of my faction. So, they call in more help! I get there to
see four hackers, all higher level than me, proceed to stun me and
finish me off within 10 seconds. What is the first thing they say?
"nice...you can't PvP noob..."

good job guys..

Oh, and
Forsaken is the same way. You beat one of them, he calls in 15 for ONE
GUY and then tells you you suck and you're a noob.

Glad to know
that parents are dumb**bleep**s and buy this game for their 12 yeard
children so that they can come and act tough...

Mentormikez

First, Tytanya- your being generous, it's more like thrice in history that a merg (mero zerg) has formed.

Second, not EVERY zion faction is like this, but theres enough
of a majority to certainly create a consistant illusion. The ones who
go against the grain get lost in the shuffle of the masses.

PBlade wrote:

Tytanya_MxO wrote:
A
merov faction gets to have the numbers on its side about once in every
20 battles and yet this thread seems only interested in abusing that
group. This attitude has been the lame and consistent response of EVERY
zion faction I have encountered since day 1, not one has shown
themslves willing to face a challenge and employ any degree of
skill or strategy other than call in their mates to resolve it (unlike
the movies where zion, the protagonist always faced the odds). Lets
make sure the blame and the shame rests squarely where it belongs!

Well then, I said I wouldn't bi*ch about The Forsakened/Risen Trial, but I will defend myself as a zionist agains these remarks.

I am afraid I cannot speak for every zion group, I will grant leway
here, as some zion factions do have that lame and consistent response
you described. However, to stereotype every zionite like this is wrong,
and in all honesty, audacious. When I die, I die, I reconstruct, no
matter what the odds, if it's 5 on one, I reconstruct no questions, no
moans, if I die 1 on 1, I reconstruct slower, usually to say "gf". I
also know of many others, in the Children of Zion and in other
factions, who do the same.

I would ask for you to withdraw that comment, but chances are you will not, so I will just stay adamant in the face of it.

Trillian

Lost Prophet doll, Im a little confused here. Im not trying to start anything, but in your first post you were saying how you were killing these merovs in a construct for fun cause they were on a KOS list, but in the second post you were upset because some merovs killed you in a construct and you said "but these two little boys decided to look at their CQs instead of the bigger picture." Doesn't that negate what you said in the first post? I may be seeing this wrong though. On the topic at hand I would have to agree with Tytanya. I have never been in a battle with a faction of Zion where backup was not called in to double the number when I was already out numbered in the first place. In better words I have never had a chance to go one on one with someone from Zion like I do with other Merovs and Machines.

[CoZ]LostProphet

Lost Prophet doll, Im a little confused here. Im not trying to start
anything, but in your first post you were saying how you were killing
these merovs in a construct for fun cause they were on a KOS list, but
in the second post you were upset because some merovs killed you in a
construct and you said "but these two little boys decided to look at
their CQs instead of the bigger picture." Doesn't that negate what you
said in the first post? I may be seeing this wrong though.

I was in the bookstore, hoping to catch some of the Merovs that like to camp our bookstore, not the archive.

In the event in the archive (which was previous to the bookstore
incident) I had no personal beef with the faction, and their "peers"
weren't causing trouble either. Yet they still killed me and even
reported members of Immortallis that were with me to a senior member of
said faction for 'betraying' their organisation.

Following that event various people in CoZ (I'm sure it's not limited
to just us) have been subject to some pathetic and crude verbal attacks
from them, hence they're now KOS.

Err .. in summary:

I got nailed in the construct for doing nothing other than having a red
name when other Merovingian players can see that working together gets
loot/XP faster and so is beneficial to all, then get insulted numerous
times by other players, thus faction == KOS.

I was in the bookstore and killed that guy (who threw verbal abuse at
me) because his faction were on KOS list due to the aforementioned
events.

If they had've shown a little common decency in the first place, then none of it would have happened SMILEY

Message Edited by [CoZ]LostProphet on 08-22-2005 02:55 PM
Message edited by [CoZ]LostProphet on 08/22/2005 05:55:49.

Trillian

ahhh yes the infamous construct bookstore camping, that one I will never understand. You like to attack on sight inside a construct.... alright....sure why not. But really what is the point of camping a construct bookstore or the HardLine near the Bookstore? Believe me Lost I know that all too well, I have not seen a day yet since the merger that our bookstore and HL were not being camped by different machine and zion factions alike. Biggest offenders of this have to be Guardians of the 7th gate, Jokerz, and a couple of factions that are ____ of Zion, although I don't think I have ever seen and member of CoZ there. Honestly how can anyone be "that" bored? Im kind of stealing the thread here...sorry....mabey I should start a new post on this. As for the Forsaken, I believe the reason they started that "kill everyone they see and use big groups" is because that is all the zionist ever did. How can you guys really blame them?

[CoZ]LostProphet

For us it's more of a retaliation tactic. Every few minutes in /fc I
hear "Mervs at Moriah E" or "So and so just got me in the bookstore"

The time Ariokaar attacked me I got teleported halfway through and
ended up with visual/audio effects on constantly. Think sound loop but
constant and 10x worse. That annoyed me enough to do it.

The undoubted problem is the gross imbalance in organisational members, and various faction policies.

For the most part, CoZ never ganked (and still try not to unless seeing
KOS people) but there were numerous Zionist factions that did.

So we get lumped in with "Zionists are noobs" and when Forsaken formed,
they killed everyone regardless of level or faction. So some of us got
into a serious "*CENSORED* did we ever do to you" mindset and eventually a
constant state of war broke out as our members levelled higher.

And I have no doubt that the same scenario is true all over the place, just swap some names around.

However there's a plain "war" and then there's the **bleep**'s war which some factions seem to be all about.

i.e. if a merv kills me and I come back and kill him, it's done. If his
faction want to come and gang up on me then fine, and likewise when I
call in backup.

But when said merv kills me and calls me names, or calls his mates to
back him up and calls me a "noob", I take offense, and so do others. And that's where the problems start.

RealSlimShady

>Don't worry Sevas, I hear most of Forsaken are back to school shortely

STING!

o well, yer, sasakis account is on eBay, and to be honest, i havnt heard or seen forsaken in a lon time...

Aggie

Soon enough, you all will be getting some spanks...

That is all.

remmeh

lol i think merovingian backwards is shamus' second acct... or
someone... maybe smallchips... i dunno... someone whose name starts
with a letter in mid-alphabet

bloodraven951

Actually, I was more or less talking about the maturity level these guys were presenting. Does zion call backup when none is needed..yes. So do a lot of merv factions. Machines, we normally don't have anyone to call.

Ans also, saying that mervs outnumbering is a rare thing...not true. Try being a machine. Mervs outnumber us around 8-1 while zion outnumbers us 15-1...

**Abigor666**

TrT is a respectable guild with great leadership and great members.

Trucidos

Message Edited by Abigor666 on 08-22-2005 12:24 PM
Message edited by Abigor666 on 08/22/2005 11:24:13.

Litt1eDevil

Well dude. This is a pvp server. HOSTILE! You cant take the heat then keep your little butt out the kitchen buddy. ANd forsaken are noobs anyways man. They are like aknife throwing faction dude. They are no enumerator faction. Heuristic i think is where they came from. No one knows pvp untill they have spent loads of time on enumerator. And well hy man dont worry about it. I used to be in TRT. I know who you were fighting. Apost1e Richard Simon and some other guy. RIght? RIchard was rifleman simon and apost1le were hackers. So yea you pretty much ran into little bi+ch3s. It happens sometimes man. Dont worry about it.

RichardX

Ok I first off not everyone was hacker. If i can remember correctly 2 of them were hacker (though i started out as hacker and went to expert rifleman). I only went there was because 1 of them said that you guys we attacking him. Now first i thought about it, he was level 50 and i didnt see why he couldnt really do it himself but then he was making abilties. So I went to help. After a couple times of killing I decided to switch over to ER. I only attacked cause you guys were attacking, and you could have left it alone and left, or called in for back up. Plus its a pvp server, if you attack we attack.

Shar T

LittleDevil, unless you haven't noticed, but about 90% of this server is either hacker or MKT. I hardly see any MA, Gunman, or anything else anymore that are not at a very low level.