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[7.3.1] Where those "Pure Mosh" flyers have been coming from - Syntax - 5/31/07
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Systemic Anomaly

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I hope im not the only person to have realised that "pure mosh" is in the same vein as sarah edmontons aka an anagram of morpheus.



Systemic Anomaly

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Haigen wrote:
Well this is certainly entertaining...
((Technically speaking should a LO be commenting on predomenlaly OOC discussion?



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RetroX wrote:
Haigen wrote:
Well this is certainly entertaining...
((Technically speaking should a LO be commenting on predomenlaly OOC discussion?
((I dont see why not. I mean aslong as its done IC SMILEY ))


Systemic Anomaly

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Kimri wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
No Im not going to shut up about it untill the faction that has put in the most work in any event to date sence the start gets some *CENSORED* credit. Might as well go friken Machine at least they can put forth the effort to congradulate there members and *CENSORED* they even get a gun and not some outdated harware or flashlight.

Gami, your faction might have been around the longest. Though I totaly think your being extremly selfish in this. Every faction on Syntax has taken part in the EPN events, not just your "group". Together as a team we have put alot of effort and work into this event. True EPN as a "whole" are under appreicated on Syntax. If you still think it is your faction on its own that is under appriecated then fine, but realise its not just your group, its others on Syntax too!

Oh your right. I'm totaly being selfish for asking for some credit after organizing countless meetings for the org when there was no LO, writeing up a manifeisto to bring the org together and get rid of the terrorsit half the people thought we shoudl be doing, being the faction in this event to do the most work in getting to where we are, makeing sure our LOs were updated with full reports for this and all other major ops and droping everything if they needed a hand even if it was an inconvence to us, being the only people from Syntax to activly defend EPN on DN1. Do I need to continue? Over a years worth of tears sweat and blood and not once have we asked untill now for some credit were we thought it was due and if you have a problem with it I have two words for ya.



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Kimri wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
No Im not going to shut up about it untill the faction that has put in the most work in any event to date sence the start gets some *CENSORED* credit. Might as well go friken Machine at least they can put forth the effort to congradulate there members and *CENSORED* they even get a gun and not some outdated harware or flashlight.

Gami, your faction might have been around the longest. Though I totaly think your being extremly selfish in this. Every faction on Syntax has taken part in the EPN events, not just your "group". Together as a team we have put alot of effort and work into this event. True EPN as a "whole" are under appreicated on Syntax. If you still think it is your faction on its own that is under appriecated then fine, but realise its not just your group, its others on Syntax too!

You're right, Kimri...

Thank you ZION, especially Pyroclasam, for finding and letting Fuscienne know where TerryHarris was. I thank you and probably my faction does too. SMILEY

Message edited by Gerik on 06/02/2007 12:24:12.



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Havocide wrote:
RetroX wrote:
Haigen wrote:
Well this is certainly entertaining...
((Technically speaking should a LO be commenting on predomenlaly OOC discussion?
((I dont see why not. I mean aslong as its done IC SMILEY ))

(( Havo's term of IC = Getting more than just required info...... XD *hehe* ))



Systemic Anomaly

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GamiSB wrote:
Kimri wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
No Im not going to shut up about it untill the faction that has put in the most work in any event to date sence the start gets some *CENSORED* credit. Might as well go friken Machine at least they can put forth the effort to congradulate there members and *CENSORED* they even get a gun and not some outdated harware or flashlight.

Gami, your faction might have been around the longest. Though I totaly think your being extremly selfish in this. Every faction on Syntax has taken part in the EPN events, not just your "group". Together as a team we have put alot of effort and work into this event. True EPN as a "whole" are under appreicated on Syntax. If you still think it is your faction on its own that is under appriecated then fine, but realise its not just your group, its others on Syntax too!

Oh your right. I'm totaly being selfish for asking for some credit after organizing countless meetings for the org when there was no LO, writeing up a manifeisto to bring the org together and get rid of the terrorsit half the people thought we shoudl be doing, being the faction in this event to do the most work in getting to where we are, makeing sure our LOs were updated with full reports for this and all other major ops and droping everything if they needed a hand even if it was an inconvence to us, being the only people from Syntax to activly defend EPN on DN1. Do I need to continue? Over a years worth of tears sweat and blood and not once have we asked untill now for some credit were we thought it was due and if you have a problem with it I have two words for ya.
My lord that sounds familer....I mean if you replaced EPN with mech, and syntax with Recursion....hmm...SMILEY



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Avalod wrote:
Havocide wrote:
RetroX wrote:
Haigen wrote:
Well this is certainly entertaining...
((Technically speaking should a LO be commenting on predomenlaly OOC discussion?
((I dont see why not. I mean aslong as its done IC SMILEY ))

(( Havo's term of IC = Getting more than just required info...... XD *hehe* ))
(( Rofl, lets not go there again SMILEY  ))


Systemic Anomaly

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NightTrace wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
Kimri wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
No Im not going to shut up about it untill the faction that has put in the most work in any event to date sence the start gets some *CENSORED* credit. Might as well go friken Machine at least they can put forth the effort to congradulate there members and *CENSORED* they even get a gun and not some outdated harware or flashlight.

Gami, your faction might have been around the longest. Though I totaly think your being extremly selfish in this. Every faction on Syntax has taken part in the EPN events, not just your "group". Together as a team we have put alot of effort and work into this event. True EPN as a "whole" are under appreicated on Syntax. If you still think it is your faction on its own that is under appriecated then fine, but realise its not just your group, its others on Syntax too!

Oh your right. I'm totaly being selfish for asking for some credit after organizing countless meetings for the org when there was no LO, writeing up a manifeisto to bring the org together and get rid of the terrorsit half the people thought we shoudl be doing, being the faction in this event to do the most work in getting to where we are, makeing sure our LOs were updated with full reports for this and all other major ops and droping everything if they needed a hand even if it was an inconvence to us, being the only people from Syntax to activly defend EPN on DN1. Do I need to continue? Over a years worth of tears sweat and blood and not once have we asked untill now for some credit were we thought it was due and if you have a problem with it I have two words for ya.
My lord that sounds familer....I mean if you replaced EPN with mech, and syntax with Recursion....hmm...SMILEY
Yes I can now say that I know fully how you feel NT and I can't remember but if I gave you any crap for your complaints I take it all back and fully apologize.



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im starting to see why it takes zion so long to do anything what happend to takeing part beucase it was right the thing to do and not to get creidt people don't do the right thing so people say oh look they doing the right thing, they do the right thing because it right thing to do if they do for any other reasion they from a certain point of view they are not doing the right thing and derive the credit at all  (now if you followed that have a cookie)

people who look for credit in their actions are the ones who are least likely going to get it, all shouting is going to about it make it less likely for it to be given next time you do something and as looks like has allready happend make people laugh at you and provock(sp) you more.

now can we please get back on topic and stop havering a *CENSORED* popularity contest and found what the hell is going on   




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Save me the moral BS please this goes far beyond doing the right thing because as it so happens the right thing when you have a group that has put in a year of solid hard work to your cause is to congradulate and thank them on just that. Something our current leadership has failed to do countless times not only for myself and my faction but for many others. If I wanted to be a glory hog this would have started after every event or I'd run my mouth off trying to suck up to whoever I could to get it. No this is simply because I just got tired of seeing the people in myf faction never getting the slightest pat on the back after working as hard as they did on this event and it was the staw that broke the camels back.
Message edited by GamiSB on 06/02/2007 14:53:07.



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Unfortunantly, it seems that as time goes on, less thought is put into how rewards are handled. In some cases, its rather to the point, but other events its not. If a group puts in a ton of work like was obvioulsy was done during this event [pre-event puzzle solving etc], and then the event happens, and they make just as much of a presence during the event. Shouldnt the people who were putting in the time through RP/puzzles/etc be rewarded for their work vs somebody who just showed up right time right day?



Systemic Anomaly

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This is Captain Shi Xin Feng of the EPN HvCFT Rocinante speaking.

I was one of those who received a 'reward' for my involvement. Although, to be blunt, at the time, I felt like it was more of an effort to shut me up than it was of saying thanks. 

I have refrained from speaking on this matter because I wanted to think about the entire situation. Here is what I have determined.

On both sides of this issue, many people, including myself, are angry about how things have turned out. We have been making this known through the various channels of postings on the 'official RedPill message boards', directly to our Liaison Officers, and to each other. The reason for our ire? Disrespect. Utter disergard for our efforts.

Even so, I think that perhaps some of our anger is misdirected. Yes, we want acknowledgment from our leadership for having done a good job. But, more than that, I think we want respect from the people in our own organization. For them to acknowledge that they were there because we got them there. The operatives who jumped in at the last second and "got in on the fun" as it were, didn't even say "good work, guys" to any of those who really worked hard at this mission.

Instead, some of those people, notably Zionists, had the audacity to complain about us "hoarding" information. This, after we called a meeting with Zionists and EPN'ers alike to discuss this mission. We even requested a sit-down with Zion's Liaison Officer, only to be told by said LO that the Council had decreed that there would be no sharing of information between Zion and EPN. Yet they still had the gall to say we were hoarding info from them.

This was, ostensibly, a mission that was supposed to lead us to more information about Morpheus, if not directly to the man himself! I get the feeling that, somehow, that was just a diversion or misleading information; Morpheus was never going to be at the end of this 'bughunt'. 

What made matters worse, especially for me, is that our people put all that time and effort into following the clues (deciphering complicated messages, hunting down vague contacts, tracking (useless) truck locations, erroneous shipping invoices and manifests, and, not to mention, dealing with some glory-chasing fool who tried to make himself look official but really had nothing at all to do with this), only to have it end so incredibly anticlimactically; so absolutely worthless to us.

I didn't join EPN to fight security gaurds for someone's initials. If this is the kind of work we can expect in the future, I think I will have to forge my own way in this organization.

I am not here for glory or reward. EPN is my cause; it is what I believe in. I will bear this flag until I can no longer do so, even after there is no flag left to bear. And long after the EPN flag has turned to ashes and dust, this faction, E Pluribus Neo, will still stand for that which it stands for today: the Right to Choose and Freedom for those who choose it.

But mark my words. I will not allow my crew members to get shot up and nearly killed for "initials" or any other *CENSORED* clue to the whereabouts of Morpheus and I don't give a *CENSORED* who thinks it is important. I don't ask my people to stick a 6-inch steel spike in their heads daily and risk Agents and a whole slew of trigger-happy Redpills for worthless causes like this one has apparently turned out to be.

We will continue on as ordered. The Rocinante is still at the service of the Kid and the Neo's Hope. Let's just hope it is worthwhile service, eh?




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If you don't favor the task, don't do it. You think this is worthless? Let it go.

And don't do things expecting reward, you'll only end up feeling cheated. After all, if you're only doing it for reward and recognition, I'd believe the Merovingian's employ would be more fitting for you.

((Give me a break. I did eight months of riddles and got a headlamp, the same one that multiple people got for racing an exile. Get over yourselves.))




Systemic Anomaly

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Neoteny wrote:

((Give me a break. I did eight months of riddles and got a headlamp, the same one that multiple people got for racing an exile. Get over yourselves.))

((No one said you don't deserve better for your considerable efforts. Maybe you should adding your voice to ours, instead of telling us to shut up. In any case, drop the holier-than-thou attitude, Neoteny. Or take your own advice about tasks and rewards.))
 
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