Not to be a poop but are you all forgeting EoC?:Seems with EoC the pants just help even things up a bit....not overpowered at all.
The Leo wrote:Pylat wrote: Going by your maths Swimming. Where you say there are no clothes with just plain 35% health regen. I'm assuming you went 45% -10% = 35%Therefore you consider the two equal.Seraphim shoes grant 20% Health regen and 15% IS regen, for an overall of 35%. Ballak wrote:Considering how Seraphims are chosen over every other footwear in the game, yeah you could probably say that's overpowered too.You are right Pylat. Now everyone lets get all kinds of regen clothing to completely be able to ignore combat state debuffs...I think your health regen %'s, max out after a certain point. So it's not like you'd become Neo or anything. I will admit though, having enough health regen to boost it up near 50 health points per second is a bit overpowered.
Pylat wrote: Going by your maths Swimming. Where you say there are no clothes with just plain 35% health regen. I'm assuming you went 45% -10% = 35%Therefore you consider the two equal.Seraphim shoes grant 20% Health regen and 15% IS regen, for an overall of 35%. Ballak wrote:Considering how Seraphims are chosen over every other footwear in the game, yeah you could probably say that's overpowered too.You are right Pylat. Now everyone lets get all kinds of regen clothing to completely be able to ignore combat state debuffs...
Going by your maths Swimming. Where you say there are no clothes with just plain 35% health regen. I'm assuming you went 45% -10% = 35%
Therefore you consider the two equal.
Seraphim shoes grant 20% Health regen and 15% IS regen, for an overall of 35%.
Considering how Seraphims are chosen over every other footwear in the game, yeah you could probably say that's overpowered too.
Maybe it's good that these pants put less Emphasis on spamming attacks at eachother and instead encourage longer fights. People will have to think more tactically to overcome the improved regen.
Well, let's see. Wearing Peck's Shirt, Area K, Seraphims, Widow's Moore, SleepWalker's Jeans, plus Fast Healing 2.0, plus an Anniversary Cookie. You've got around 260% Health Regen. It'd be even higher if I had the Assassin's Mask, as well as higher Vitality. Granted I'm not in a combat state, that's not even going all the way with health regen.
If someone is willing to go to all of those extents to get all that regen then they deserve to be dang near impossible to kill.
We got a half decent item and we want it lowering? Only me seing a catch 22 here?
We moan for better buffs we get em? Then we dont want better buffs.
The Jeans are just as availible to one player as the next so if someone wants the same advantage GO FARM (or flash your info)
To be honest I think the Jeans are a great Item and I like them the way they are!
Thats my 2 $info!
GoDGiVeR wrote:The_Bruceter wrote:On my main char I have them but only wear them when i am fighting against someone that has them on aswell. Since their release i'v had a good 6 or 7 20 mins+ duels. Only state specials can wipe someone out, and thats only if you can follow up after it aswell. I'v managed to get back to full health after being Tomo'd.I can assure you, that is NOT because of those pants, it's because of your skills. I've had way longer duels without those pants way before the sleepwalker update.Duelists vs. Duelist duels take a considerable length longer than they should with the pants.Not to say Duelist vs. Duelist duels are fast. lol
The_Bruceter wrote:On my main char I have them but only wear them when i am fighting against someone that has them on aswell. Since their release i'v had a good 6 or 7 20 mins+ duels. Only state specials can wipe someone out, and thats only if you can follow up after it aswell. I'v managed to get back to full health after being Tomo'd.I can assure you, that is NOT because of those pants, it's because of your skills. I've had way longer duels without those pants way before the sleepwalker update.
On my main char I have them but only wear them when i am fighting against someone that has them on aswell. Since their release i'v had a good 6 or 7 20 mins+ duels. Only state specials can wipe someone out, and thats only if you can follow up after it aswell. I'v managed to get back to full health after being Tomo'd.
Duelists vs. Duelist duels take a considerable length longer than they should with the pants.
Not to say Duelist vs. Duelist duels are fast. lol
Foregoing all the actual statistics and numbers and relying simply on experience; their not that bad, I myself don't have a pair, probably won't get one and have never really had too much a problem killing those who do wear 'em.