psilody wrote:
How am I going to play it IC at all? That is to say, under what circumstances would i be called upon to have an IC response to story events that are not happening? Even when we HAD a story, I was never one to stand around Tab W asking people "So, what ya think about them LV's?" If there was a LE going on, then it seemed pertinent what my IC stance on the current situation was, and I played from that. That stance was always based on psi's core character anyway.I think my point is more, THERE IS NO MORE CONTINUING STORYYLINE, ERGO, I DON"T NEED AN IC RESPONSE. I'm not really worried about character continuity, psi's character can be what it its, without an official storyline.
Even when we HAD a story, I was never one to stand around Tab W asking people "So, what ya think about them LV's?" If there was a LE going on, then it seemed pertinent what my IC stance on the current situation was, and I played from that. That stance was always based on psi's core character anyway.
I think my point is more, THERE IS NO MORE CONTINUING STORYYLINE, ERGO, I DON"T NEED AN IC RESPONSE. I'm not really worried about character continuity, psi's character can be what it its, without an official storyline.
Ah, I see where you're coming from now. No story = no need for story RP. Got it.
And theres not anybody playing this game that doesn't know whats (not) going on, so who's going to really see some "discrepancy".
Well, the idea is to set it up for new players so they can dive right in without having to read the entire saga on the forums.
Again, I don't believe for one minute that, as a community of players, even IF we agreed that, say, "the outline is canon, lets start at 15." that such agreement would actually lead to a continuing official story.
The purpose of this thread is not to continue the official story. I thought we could just find a "jumping off point", if you will, for everyone's personal RP.
So yeah, again, it doesn't matter how I would play a response to the story, because there isn't a story to play at all. What's the point? Who am I going to RP with about an "official" story line that ended and no longer exists? Myself?
I guess that's up to you. You pay for the game, play it how you want.
So, ya know, come up with yer idea, start a Player Event thread and say "hey, Our group of people have agreed on this, and we are going to play out a story based on it. participants welcome." To me, that's what it means for the story to be in our hands. Not, "hey, lets all spend 6 months arguing and debating what did or didn't happen, where it's going to go, who's going to get it there... blah,blah..."
To me, that's what it means for the story to be in our hands. Not, "hey, lets all spend 6 months arguing and debating what did or didn't happen, where it's going to go, who's going to get it there... blah,blah..."
Well, that's the whole idea, as I illustrated a few lines up. But wouldn't it be nice, for veterans and newbies alike, if everyone kind of agreed about what has happened? I mean, this way, a new player could go from RP story to RP story without running into a situation where one person says "that Oligarchs are gone" while another says "nah, the Oligarchs were just here yesterday." I mean, I suppose if people want to RP against the grain, that's fine; they pay to play too. But, some of us feel like it's possible to reach an agreement on this issue.
Not worth it. Just enjoy what's left and stop worrying about it.
That's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. But since we, also, pay to play, how about you just let us play the game how we want to? We're not requiring you, or anyone else, to agree with us. We're just saying "for those like-minded individuals, how do you want it to go?"
Fair enough?
ShiXinFeng wrote:
psilody wrote:How am I going to play it IC at all? That is to say, under what circumstances would i be called upon to have an IC response to story events that are not happening? Even when we HAD a story, I was never one to stand around Tab W asking people "So, what ya think about them LV's?" If there was a LE going on, then it seemed pertinent what my IC stance on the current situation was, and I played from that. That stance was always based on psi's core character anyway.I think my point is more, THERE IS NO MORE CONTINUING STORYYLINE, ERGO, I DON"T NEED AN IC RESPONSE. I'm not really worried about character continuity, psi's character can be what it its, without an official storyline.Ah, I see where you're coming from now. No story = no need for story RP. Got it( ...)psilody wrote:So, ya know, come up with yer idea, start a Player Event thread and say "hey, Our group of people have agreed on this, and we are going to play out a story based on it. participants welcome." To me, that's what it means for the story to be in our hands. Not, "hey, lets all spend 6 months arguing and debating what did or didn't happen, where it's going to go, who's going to get it there... blah,blah..."Well, that's the whole idea, as I illustrated a few lines up. But wouldn't it be nice, for veterans and newbies alike, if everyone kind of agreed about what has happened? I mean, this way, a new player could go from RP story to RP story without running into a situation where one person says "that Oligarchs are gone" while another says "nah, the Oligarchs were just here yesterday." I mean, I suppose if people want to RP against the grain, that's fine; they pay to play too. But, some of us feel like it's possible to reach an agreement on this issue. psilody wrote:Not worth it. Just enjoy what's left and stop worrying about it.That's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. But since we, also, pay to play, how about you just let us play the game how we want to? We're not requiring you, or anyone else, to agree with us. We're just saying "for those like-minded individuals, how do you want it to go?"Fair enough?
Ah, I see where you're coming from now. No story = no need for story RP. Got it
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yes, defnitely fair. I guess my primary concern still comes from the title of this thread "Where does this leave us?"
I thought the point of thread was to try and draw a community concensus on where "we" all are.
I guess I'm trying to say that I think the effort to get the community to agree on such a thing is more likely to cause strife, than solve any significant problem.
So, I'm sorry if i misunderstood, but i took the meaning of this thread to be a discussion of where we all are, as players in this community, with the idea of reaching a concensus among basically all players. That is an entirely different objective than saying "Where are we individually, and who wants to group up and go a similar direction?".
I'm just fine with the latter, especially since thats the way its going to in fact be. I'm disturbed by the former, because I don't want to see this community torn apart by trying to achieve a concensus that isn't going to happen.
Rules of Improv applied to RP
The toughest part is agreeing. As a general rule, just RP with people you agree with. Or agree with the people you are RPing with.
Will this really be a problem? I assume most of us have a circle of people that we would RP with outside of events. And now that there are no more events, we still have our circle.
cloudwolf wrote:
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S***, I f***ed up.
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
cloudwolf wrote:O.oS***, I f***ed up.
Circumventing the obscenity filter? In my matricks?!
Perma-ban for you, squirrel!
ShiXinFeng mentioned this discussion in another thread. After re-reading it, thinking about it for a while and talking to him, he suggested that I post here my thoughts.
I can see that SXF held back discussion until others came in and commented first, which is something I do sometimes, too, to see where the discussion goes and then to re-route it back to where I wanted it to go. (If that's what he did.)
But what I got out of this thread was what I think is a solid time-point in which to pick up the storyline. Weather people like it or not, the Oligarchs are here. But 12.2 has not been implemented yet. I say yet because if a new dev were to come in, that is a likely starting point to pick up the story. All this considering a new dev might just go off in their own direction. In this case, it's not Rarebit that had the alternate ending, but us that make an alternate continuation.
All in all, I really think it's rather futile. If we can't agree where to begin, there is no way we'll all agree where to continue week after week. But I like the fact that members are at least trying to facilitate something for the future of this community.
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Down to brass tax: What are you willing to sacrifice for the rest of the community to be on board with the future? I'm willing to accept the Oligarchs and even the Trinity crapola in order to have a cohesive future. I would like to see the future return to 3 or 5 orgs fighting for leverage inside the matrix, because that is most accessable to us. I am even willing to flag up lots more so that combat will not have to be a dev tool of NPCs.
Vesuveus wrote:
ShiXinFeng mentioned this discussion in another thread. After re-reading it, thinking about it for a while and talking to him, he suggested that I post here my thoughts.I can see that SXF held back discussion until others came in and commented first, which is something I do sometimes, too, to see where the discussion goes and then to re-route it back to where I wanted it to go. (If that's what he did.)But what I got out of this thread was what I think is a solid time-point in which to pick up the storyline. Weather people like it or not, the Oligarchs are here. But 12.2 has not been implemented yet. I say yet because if a new dev were to come in, that is a likely starting point to pick up the story. All this considering a new dev might just go off in their own direction. In this case, it's not Rarebit that had the alternate ending, but us that make an alternate continuation.All in all, I really think it's rather futile. If we can't agree where to begin, there is no way we'll all agree where to continue week after week. But I like the fact that members are at least trying to facilitate something for the future of this community.NEWDown to brass tax: What are you willing to sacrifice for the rest of the community to be on board with the future? I'm willing to accept the Oligarchs and even the Trinity crapola in order to have a cohesive future. I would like to see the future return to 3 or 5 orgs fighting for leverage inside the matrix, because that is most accessable to us. I am even willing to flag up lots more so that combat will not have to be a dev tool of NPCs.
Thanks Ves.
When you talk about a "time-point", then, yeah, that's pretty much what we're trying to figure out. In order to get involved with more than one group that's doing some RP, without having to radically change the fundamentals of the history of the MxO story, we could decide that we are going to accept the story as it never happened, partly happened, or completely happened.
To me, it really doesn't matter which, so long as we can all agree.
To be perfectly honest I don't really want to deal with "The Main Storyline" right now, and I'd bet many others don't either. Why not take a break for a little while? At least until we know what the status of the game is Post-Anniversary Event. If it looks like the servers are gonna shut down, then whats the point? I think maybe little Animatrix-style side stories might be be a better fit at this point in time. I don't see what the great rush is solve the monumental dispute of what the Mxo Canon is right this second. Thinking about it gives me a headache in my eye.
Myself I'm rather enjoying getting caught up on many little things ingame I've overlooked over the past year or so. There are some really cool things going on in Mega City, if only you stop for a moment and look around!
I understand how you feel. It's just sad that we can't have nice things.
Villemar_MxO wrote:
To be perfectly honest I don't really want to deal with "The Main Storyline" right now, and I'd bet many others don't either. Why not take a break for a little while? At least until we know what the status of the game is Post-Anniversary Event. If it looks like the servers are gonna shut down, then whats the point? I think maybe little Animatrix-style side stories might be be a better fit at this point in time. I don't see what the great rush is solve the monumental dispute of what the Mxo Canon is right this second. Thinking about it gives me a headache in my eye.Myself I'm rather enjoying getting caught up on many little things ingame I've overlooked over the past year or so. There are some really cool things going on in Mega City, if only you stop for a moment and look around!
What he said
I'm willing to accept the Oligarchs and even the Trinity crapola in order to have a cohesive future.
Indeed, Operative.
Croesis wrote:
Villemar_MxO wrote:To be perfectly honest I don't really want to deal with "The Main Storyline" right now, and I'd bet many others don't either. Why not take a break for a little while? At least until we know what the status of the game is Post-Anniversary Event. If it looks like the servers are gonna shut down, then whats the point? I think maybe little Animatrix-style side stories might be be a better fit at this point in time. I don't see what the great rush is solve the monumental dispute of what the Mxo Canon is right this second. Thinking about it gives me a headache in my eye.Myself I'm rather enjoying getting caught up on many little things ingame I've overlooked over the past year or so. There are some really cool things going on in Mega City, if only you stop for a moment and look around!What he said
I think this is really best because it doesn't require everyone to agree. It requires people to participate or not. Hey, that's like binary!
Completely seconded.
I joined this Game many days late & tons of $info short (still am). One of the ideas that intrigued me was the posibility of my RSI helping move the story forward at some point no matter how small a contribution. I looked forward to critical missions; they aiding me in understanding things. Now I'm rather confused; the only thing I know for sure is I'll be around until the servers are unplugged or I die.
I've had good fun, even when the game is not as it was in the beta player's perceived heyday. I doubt we can agree all 100% whatever idea comes forward but we need something (anything) most of us can live with. Also, I would like to know before the anniversary, from 'management' where they think we are headed. I don't want to show up at the anniversary party only to find out its really a wake.
"You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe."
I DON'T WANT NO STINKING BLUE BILL
Rules of Improv applied to RPThe toughest part is agreeing. As a general rule, just RP with people you agree with. Or agree with the people you are RPing with.Will this really be a problem? I assume most of us have a circle of people that we would RP with outside of events. And now that there are no more events, we still have our circle.
Mmm, I always played out Sieges's story the way Margret Mitchell wrote "Gone With The Wind". Just as the Civil War was the backdrop for the tale of a certain firey heroine who lived in Tara, the Main Storyline of MxO was pretty much the backdrop for the tale of a no less high-spirited lass. Sure, it affected her, and I found more than a few ways to anchor the latter into the former, but there was/is always a lot more going on that just the Main Storyline for a certain self-styled Merovingian Paladin...
