Who are you to lay a choice on everyone?
Who are you to say everyone actually want the choice to be given at a certain point?

Stop deciding for others. Your solution is flawed and until you come with a better one we will make sure you'll never succeed.

The beauty of what we have suggested is that the process would be entirely done by the bluepill. They would be the ones that choose when to make the choice.

You're right to ask who am I to offer them this choice but who are the Machines as well to offer it as well. We can't say that we have been given authorization by some higher power but we both understand the need for this choice. Without it no one would accept the system and now without it we would just be slaves. This may work for you but you can not speak for the masses. And until a system that gives a conscious choice and is open to all is installed we must continue as we do and offer it to everyone.

You want everyone to be given the choice to waken up or to stay asleep. In order to do this, you must tell them the truth about the reality they are actually living in. How you do this is irrelevant. You can hack computers, guide them to a doctor, or use any other method you Neonites prefer. In the end it comes down to telling them the truth. Here you decide for others and that's unacceptable.

You tell me that I can't speak for the masses but I am not doing this. It's you who believe you have the right to make decisions for the innocent with your manifesto.

Your solution is flawed and you continue to prove that.

No you do not have to tell them the truth to have them decide if they want to wake up or stay asleep, hell isn't that what they are waking up to. The truth. All we ask is that everyone be allowed to hear what leads up to the truth and the choice of seeing the truth.

Told that on one side you have the truth, the hard, horrid, truth that you will have to give up everything you know and love to see. And on the other side you have the lie, the security of knowing the life you live now is all you need to be happy and you wouldn't give it up for the world.

Then show them the two pills, tell them the bluepill allows them to forget the whole thing ever happened and they go back to there job, kids, family, friends, back to their life if they aren't willing to risk them for the truth. And that the redpill says they are willing to give it up. That they are willing to risk the life they have lived in order to see this hard truth. Then they choose.

that is it. That is all. That's all we want. Nothign else, nothing more, nothing less. That conversation to be allowed to take place with every bluepill. That every bluepill has the chance of hearing that despite not being part of the 1%. So that they know and we know that they do or do not want out of the system. Your saying we are making all these decisions for them and speaking on there behalf but we aren't!

Everything I have suggested revolves around there choice, not mine but their's. The bluepill is always in control of the situation. They are told allot yes but they still make the choices, they choose to see and ask someone about the truth, they choose to listen to the person explaining what they are asking for, they then choose to accpet what they have been told is real or bull *poop*, and they choose which pill to take.

All we do is offer them a place to learn more about it, a person to exaplin it to them, and a pill to choose between if they want to see it or not..

Reeverb wrote:

You want everyone to be given the choice to waken up or to stay asleep. In order to do this, you must tell them the truth about the reality they are actually living in. How you do this is irrelevant. You can hack computers, guide them to a doctor, or use any other method you Neonites prefer. In the end it comes down to telling them the truth. Here you decide for others and that's unacceptable.

You tell me that I can't speak for the masses but I am not doing this. It's you who believe you have the right to make decisions for the innocent with your manifesto.

Your solution is flawed and you continue to prove that.

No you do not have to tell them the truth to have them decide if they want to wake up or stay asleep, hell isn't that what they are waking up to. The truth. All we ask is that everyone be allowed to hear what leads up to the truth and the choice of seeing the truth.

Told that on one side you have the truth, the hard, horrid, truth that you will have to give up everything you know and love to see. And on the other side you have the lie, the security of knowing the life you live now is all you need to be happy and you wouldn't give it up for the world.

Then show them the two pills, tell them the bluepill allows them to forget the whole thing ever happened and they go back to there job, kids, family, friends, back to their life if they aren't willing to risk them for the truth. And that the redpill says they are willing to give it up. That they are willing to risk the life they have lived in order to see this hard truth. Then they choose.

that is it. That is all. That's all we want. Nothign else, nothing more, nothing less. That conversation to be allowed to take place with every bluepill. That every bluepill has the chance of hearing that despite not being part of the 1%. So that they know and we know that they do or do not want out of the system. Your saying we are making all these decisions for them and speaking on there behalf but we aren't!

Everything I have suggested revolves around there choice, not mine but their's. The bluepill is always in control of the situation. They are told allot yes but they still make the choices, they choose to see and ask someone about the truth, they choose to listen to the person explaining what they are asking for, they then choose to accpet what they have been told is real or bull *CENSORED*, and they choose which pill to take.

All we do is offer them a place to learn more about it, a person to exaplin it to them, and a pill to choose between if they want to see it or not..

I am E Pluribus Neo Field Commander Dezreki of the Holy Warriors E Zion and I endorse this manifesto.

Reeverb wrote:

You want everyone to be given the choice to waken up or to stay asleep. In order to do this, you must tell them the truth about the reality they are actually living in. How you do this is irrelevant. You can hack computers, guide them to a doctor, or use any other method you Neonites prefer. In the end it comes down to telling them the truth. Here you decide for others and that's unacceptable.

You tell me that I can't speak for the masses but I am not doing this. It's you who believe you have the right to make decisions for the innocent with your manifesto.

Your solution is flawed and you continue to prove that.

No you do not have to tell them the truth to have them decide if they want to wake up or stay asleep, hell isn't that what they are waking up to. The truth. All we ask is that everyone be allowed to hear what leads up to the truth and the choice of seeing the truth.

Told that on one side you have the truth, the hard, horrid, truth that you will have to give up everything you know and love to see. And on the other side you have the lie, the security of knowing the life you live now is all you need to be happy and you wouldn't give it up for the world.

Then show them the two pills, tell them the bluepill allows them to forget the whole thing ever happened and they go back to there job, kids, family, friends, back to their life if they aren't willing to risk them for the truth. And that the redpill says they are willing to give it up. That they are willing to risk the life they have lived in order to see this hard truth. Then they choose.

that is it. That is all. That's all we want. Nothign else, nothing more, nothing less. That conversation to be allowed to take place with every bluepill. That every bluepill has the chance of hearing that despite not being part of the 1%. So that they know and we know that they do or do not want out of the system. Your saying we are making all these decisions for them and speaking on there behalf but we aren't!

Everything I have suggested revolves around there choice, not mine but their's. The bluepill is always in control of the situation. They are told allot yes but they still make the choices, they choose to see and ask someone about the truth, they choose to listen to the person explaining what they are asking for, they then choose to accpet what they have been told is real or bull *CENSORED*, and they choose which pill to take.

All we do is offer them a place to learn more about it, a person to exaplin it to them, and a pill to choose between if they want to see it or not..

GamiSB wrote:

Reeverb wrote:

You want everyone to be given the choice to waken up or to stay asleep. In order to do this, you must tell them the truth about the reality they are actually living in. How you do this is irrelevant. You can hack computers, guide them to a doctor, or use any other method you Neonites prefer. In the end it comes down to telling them the truth. Here you decide for others and that's unacceptable.

You tell me that I can't speak for the masses but I am not doing this. It's you who believe you have the right to make decisions for the innocent with your manifesto.

Your solution is flawed and you continue to prove that.

No you do not have to tell them the truth to have them decide if they want to wake up or stay asleep, hell isn't that what they are waking up to. The truth. All we ask is that everyone be allowed to hear what leads up to the truth and the choice of seeing the truth.

Told that on one side you have the truth, the hard, horrid, truth that you will have to give up everything you know and love to see. And on the other side you have the lie, the security of knowing the life you live now is all you need to be happy and you wouldn't give it up for the world.

Then show them the two pills, tell them the bluepill allows them to forget the whole thing ever happened and they go back to there job, kids, family, friends, back to their life if they aren't willing to risk them for the truth. And that the redpill says they are willing to give it up. That they are willing to risk the life they have lived in order to see this hard truth. Then they choose.

that is it. That is all. That's all we want. Nothign else, nothing more, nothing less. That conversation to be allowed to take place with every bluepill. That every bluepill has the chance of hearing that despite not being part of the 1%. So that they know and we know that they do or do not want out of the system. Your saying we are making all these decisions for them and speaking on there behalf but we aren't!

Everything I have suggested revolves around there choice, not mine but their's. The bluepill is always in control of the situation. They are told allot yes but they still make the choices, they choose to see and ask someone about the truth, they choose to listen to the person explaining what they are asking for, they then choose to accpet what they have been told is real or bull *CENSORED*, and they choose which pill to take.

All we do is offer them a place to learn more about it, a person to exaplin it to them, and a pill to choose between if they want to see it or not..

Gami, I don't care about your method to achieve this free choice. My point here is that you're deliberately give people a choice they didn't ask for. While a few, or perhaps a lot of bluepills will be glad with what you tell them there will also be a percentage that would rather never learn the truth. Who are you to decide for these people?
Or have you forgot what a horrifying day your day of awakement was? Or how sick people get when they hear the truth? To learn how to use your body again? Some might feel releaved, others might not. Some are curious, some will feel saved before they are awakened and only told about the truth. Some will regret their choice the rest of their lives after awakement. - This is the case already and here are you, claiming that you want to make it worse than it is already.
Stop this nonsense. This is not needed. Until the system is safe, the awakened will never be save. If the system isn't safe, Zion isn't safe. But no, you want to free the innocent and let them help you in a ridiculous and pathetic war, risking their lives while they were safe without you.

You will not succeed.

I like when a machine say "u cannot take decision for every one" when the machine take it before.... Do u really think if the unconcious choice is not a need of the system, any man have ever the choice? yes? the next question i supposed to be, is this air that i'm breathing now?? Please wake up guys befor to talk of who can take decision for all.....

You fail to address the concerns of those who want out, who would be happy with the truth. You are thinking about this as if you were having the choice. There is a need for people to be given a choice between a dream enslaving them in Bondage and The Real. If they don't want the choice they can always take the blue pill.

Code pulses, bombs, there all the same - and E Pluribus Neo dont have a problem with setting any of them off.

regardless of our actions or personal feelings regarding EPN and what it means the Machines will never give in to the possibility that they will loose blue pills to the reality of life.

Therefore it is imperative that as followers of E Pluribus Neo, we each fight for what WE beleive in, and not concern ourselves with the approval of the Machines or even those zionists who follow the misguided judgement of their council beleiving that one day humans and machines can and will live together in peace.

I beleive some people who have taken the red pill and are considered "awakened" are still trapped in the perma-frost of their minds as they can't see past the choices others have made and insead need to concentrate on their own.

Rxu-Commander  Shadows of the Infinite-EPN VECTOR