ShiXinFeng wrote:
CODEMAN wrote:The incessant whining of this thread makes my eyes hurt. Like others have said before me. Love it or leave it. Machinist: one who derives pleasure in being abused or dominated; has a taste for suffering.
CODEMAN wrote:
The incessant whining of this thread makes my eyes hurt. Like others have said before me. Love it or leave it.
Machinist: one who derives pleasure in being abused or dominated; has a taste for suffering.
EDIT: Fixed.
Dr5mith wrote:
Phrack wrote:Question.How do you take a population count?Because if it's just jacking into Mara Central and typing /who, that's not accurate. /who has a pretty limited range, not to mention that there's 3 other districts and several other constructs that people could be in.I'm not saying you're wrong about the population being slim to nill (even though it's 9am on a Monday morning, my time), just wondering what you're basing your numbers off of.ah...sry didnt know with my 4.5 yrs here one would think i wouldnt know how to do a proper /who. I got all the districts and zones except the contructs my 50 cant get to...
Phrack wrote:
Question.How do you take a population count?Because if it's just jacking into Mara Central and typing /who, that's not accurate. /who has a pretty limited range, not to mention that there's 3 other districts and several other constructs that people could be in.I'm not saying you're wrong about the population being slim to nill (even though it's 9am on a Monday morning, my time), just wondering what you're basing your numbers off of.
Question.
How do you take a population count?
Because if it's just jacking into Mara Central and typing /who, that's not accurate. /who has a pretty limited range, not to mention that there's 3 other districts and several other constructs that people could be in.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the population being slim to nill (even though it's 9am on a Monday morning, my time), just wondering what you're basing your numbers off of.
ah...sry didnt know with my 4.5 yrs here one would think i wouldnt know how to do a proper /who.
I got all the districts and zones except the contructs my 50 cant get to...
In that case, even though it's early morning on a work day for most of the US at that time, it's still epic fail.
Also, this taintstain of an MMO has no influence on my love of The Matrix. If anything it makes me appreciate more how well done of a product all of the movies, anime, and comics are.
May I quote this image and relate it to this entire thread in general.
Ra2za wrote:
Dr5mith wrote:May I quote this image and relate it to this entire thread in general.
...No.
CODEMAN wrote:The incessant whining of this thread makes my eyes hurt. Like others have said before me. Love it or leave it. Masochist: one who derives pleasure in being abused or dominated; has a taste for suffering.
Masochist: one who derives pleasure in being abused or dominated; has a taste for suffering.
Insatiate: Always wanting more. Always needing more and impossible to satisfy.
ShiXinFeng wrote:CODEMAN wrote:The incessant whining of this thread makes my eyes hurt. Like others have said before me. Love it or leave it. Masochist: one who derives pleasure in being abused or dominated; has a taste for suffering. Insatiate: Always wanting more. Always needing more and impossible to satisfy.
Nope, like everyone else here (besides you), I just want my money's worth. Kay, Thanx, Bai.
What exactly do you think your $15/mo. entitles you to, other than playing a game that works and is maintained by SOE?
Here we go again:
Villemar_MxO wrote:
Economics 101:Money is exchanged for goods and services.In a marketplace, if Vendor A is selling poor services for too high a price; where Vendors B though Z are selling appropriare services for a reasonable and fair price; it is fair to ask Vendor A how he justifies his fee when the services are far substandard to all the other vendors in the marketplace. If he doesn't give a good justification, then it should not be unexpected if Vendor A goes out of business.We are asking Vendor A to justify his fee. Nothing wrong with that. If he can't justify it, he should lower it, at the very least.
Economics 101:
Money is exchanged for goods and services.
In a marketplace, if Vendor A is selling poor services for too high a price; where Vendors B though Z are selling appropriare services for a reasonable and fair price; it is fair to ask Vendor A how he justifies his fee when the services are far substandard to all the other vendors in the marketplace. If he doesn't give a good justification, then it should not be unexpected if Vendor A goes out of business.
We are asking Vendor A to justify his fee. Nothing wrong with that. If he can't justify it, he should lower it, at the very least.
CODEMAN wrote:What exactly do you think your $15/mo. entitles you to, other than playing a game that works and is maintained by SOE?Here we go again:Villemar_MxO wrote:Economics 101:Money is exchanged for goods and services.In a marketplace, if Vendor A is selling poor services for too high a price; where Vendors B though Z are selling appropriare services for a reasonable and fair price; it is fair to ask Vendor A how he justifies his fee when the services are far substandard to all the other vendors in the marketplace. If he doesn't give a good justification, then it should not be unexpected if Vendor A goes out of business.We are asking Vendor A to justify his fee. Nothing wrong with that. If he can't justify it, he should lower it, at the very least.
So, what specific promises, did SoE (not Monolith) make to us the consumers?
MetaLogic wrote:
Villemar_MxO wrote:CODEMAN wrote:What exactly do you think your $15/mo. entitles you to, other than playing a game that works and is maintained by SOE?Here we go again:Villemar_MxO wrote:Economics 101:Money is exchanged for goods and services.In a marketplace, if Vendor A is selling poor services for too high a price; where Vendors B though Z are selling appropriare services for a reasonable and fair price; it is fair to ask Vendor A how he justifies his fee when the services are far substandard to all the other vendors in the marketplace. If he doesn't give a good justification, then it should not be unexpected if Vendor A goes out of business.We are asking Vendor A to justify his fee. Nothing wrong with that. If he can't justify it, he should lower it, at the very least. So, what specific promises, did SoE (not Monolith) make to us the consumers?
Just because SOE can, legally speaking, charge whatever they want for a game with no content, doesn't mean they should. Thats all I'm saying.
We can't beat dead horses, there are none in the Matrix. We all know we beat dead cows in here.
MetaLogic wrote:Villemar_MxO wrote:CODEMAN wrote:What exactly do you think your $15/mo. entitles you to, other than playing a game that works and is maintained by SOE?Here we go again:Villemar_MxO wrote:Economics 101:Money is exchanged for goods and services.In a marketplace, if Vendor A is selling poor services for too high a price; where Vendors B though Z are selling appropriare services for a reasonable and fair price; it is fair to ask Vendor A how he justifies his fee when the services are far substandard to all the other vendors in the marketplace. If he doesn't give a good justification, then it should not be unexpected if Vendor A goes out of business.We are asking Vendor A to justify his fee. Nothing wrong with that. If he can't justify it, he should lower it, at the very least. So, what specific promises, did SoE (not Monolith) make to us the consumers?Just because SOE can, legally speaking, charge whatever they want for a game with no content, doesn't mean they should. Thats all I'm saying.
Consumer Economics 101:
If you do not like the service, do not pay for it. You're not convincing Vendor A that you are unsatisfied if you continue paying for the unsatisfactory product. They never hear your voice. They only see your dollars continue to come in.
If I go to a restaraunt and order a meal and do not like it, I do not return. I do not continue contributing to their business. I do not return, pay for another lousy meal and complain the whole time I'm eating it. It doesn't help me communicate to them that their business sucks if I keep coming back to give them my money so I can gripe.
A business can charge whatever they want for whatever they want and they can do as long as there are people foolish enough to pay for it.
Stop the madness. Start the boycott.
EDIT: I am speaking generally and not to anyone directly.
So, the people who are content and tired of everyone complaining... your solution is for us to cancel all our subscriptions? And yet you claim to care about this game? What, exactly, do you all think is going to happen if everyone cancels their subscriptions? You think SOE will say "Oh no! We're losing customers! We better get a dev in here now!"?
No, the game will shut down, the MMO developer community will chalk it up as a failure, and then we'll likely never see a Matrix MMO again.
Cancelling our subscriptions might stick it to the man, but it does nothing for our IP.
