This is not a movie, it is a game, and except for cinematics and missions, the story is to a large degree unscripted.
Bah, I probably give you guys too much credit as it is. :ppp Next time you don't understand something, try using your imagination. It'll be so much more fun than trying to chisel some cut and dried answer out of me. When did the W brothers ever really explain the Architect's dialogue in Reloaded, or the end of Revolutions? I can only dream of being able to be as deliciously vague as they were. If you want to drop anything that looks too fun out of a story timeline you're composing, then hey, that's your prerogative; go for it! But like I said, stuff happens. This is not a movie, it is a game, and except for cinematics and missions, the story is to a large degree unscripted. I'm not going to do something in the game that I think is detrimental to the story, but I'm also not going to take time out to cater to whatever arbitrary divisions players want to make of things. Do what you like! Put your own spin on it!
If you want to drop anything that looks too fun out of a story timeline you're composing, then hey, that's your prerogative; go for it! But like I said, stuff happens. This is not a movie, it is a game, and except for cinematics and missions, the story is to a large degree unscripted. I'm not going to do something in the game that I think is detrimental to the story, but I'm also not going to take time out to cater to whatever arbitrary divisions players want to make of things. Do what you like! Put your own spin on it! I know that and i admittedly do 'put my own spin' on it. Because i know how the game works, how it works on the several different levels. But what i'm saying is people on outside dont know that. If theres event thats blatantly just for fun and contributes nothing to the story then untag it - simple. If nothing else just to make things clear for those on the outside. I deal with them every day; my friends at college i talk to about the game, the forum posters on mmorpg and gamespot, in-game at uriah, redpill rescue, youtube. Not everyone knows how this game works, how its story is written, how 'stuff happens'. I know people who would frankly be disgusted at having an event like this considered part of the story. They'd simply disregard the game as a joke of the franchise. Because they don't know.Without new players who stay on this game will just wither and die. And tagging/not tagging an event like this doesn't help. Thats all i'm saying.
If you want to drop anything that looks too fun out of a story timeline you're composing, then hey, that's your prerogative; go for it! But like I said, stuff happens. This is not a movie, it is a game, and except for cinematics and missions, the story is to a large degree unscripted. I'm not going to do something in the game that I think is detrimental to the story, but I'm also not going to take time out to cater to whatever arbitrary divisions players want to make of things. Do what you like! Put your own spin on it! I know that and i admittedly do 'put my own spin' on it. Because i know how the game works, how it works on the several different levels. But what i'm saying is people on outside dont know that. If theres event thats blatantly just for fun and contributes nothing to the story then untag it - simple. If nothing else just to make things clear for those on the outside. I deal with them every day; my friends at college i talk to about the game, the forum posters on mmorpg and gamespot, in-game at uriah, redpill rescue, youtube. Not everyone knows how this game works, how its story is written, how 'stuff happens'. I know people who would frankly be disgusted at having an event like this considered part of the story. They'd simply disregard the game as a joke of the franchise. Because they don't know.
Without new players who stay on this game will just wither and die. And tagging/not tagging an event like this doesn't help.
I was showing people this pic that didnt hear about this event yet.
All I heard was *CENSORED* There isnt a sub in debir.
I'm with Rare, as I said elsewhere when the word "Canon" was brought up. It's not relevant whether something is "Canon" or not, that's for you to decide. This party happened in the Matrix, with an event character...it happened, there's no changing it. Whether you want to refer to it is up to you. The same applies for, say, Halloween; I know some people that have incorporated it into their storylines (their storylines aren't "Canon" to you but they are still a part of the universe and "Canon" to those who wrote them or participate in them) and use it quite well. Then there's the weekly SI party, are those "not relevant" because they are not "canon" , they still get referred to, for example in The Sentinel or by Event Characters. In the end, decide for yourself, use your judgement and your imagination.
Reloaded had a Cave Rave scene, why is this any different?
cloudwolf wrote: Right, now i'm just confused. In the past Rare has himself said the game and it's development team have an obligation to continue and value the storyline the brothers have handed to them then the next it's "Stuff happens. Whether or not it's worth remembering is a matter of opinion." What is it then? A serious obligation with fun thrown in or just one big joke?Cos if it's the latter i just don't know how i should view this game anymore.---------------------------------------------------But what i'm saying is people on outside dont know that. If theres event thats blatantly just for fun and contributes nothing to the story then untag it - simple. If nothing else just to make things clear for those on the outside. i think the question to ask is - is an event ingame worthy of "canon" status purely if its six people talking to a live event character and doing nothing else for forty minutes, or something that ultimately involves punching people in the face or shooting at them in a big brawl with a bit of plot thrown in for good measure? and does the scope for "canon" not include stuff that doesn't necessarily involve any of the above? and if not, why not? neo flying or stopping bullets, or twins turning into "ghosts", or werewolves or magical techno-keys that open up doorways to white corridors are at least as "far out / wacky / whatever" as some uber powerful program with a sense of humour that can change your rsi into a phonebooth for half an hour, and (to me, anyway) at least as valid.
Right, now i'm just confused. In the past Rare has himself said the game and it's development team have an obligation to continue and value the storyline the brothers have handed to them then the next it's "Stuff happens. Whether or not it's worth remembering is a matter of opinion." What is it then? A serious obligation with fun thrown in or just one big joke?Cos if it's the latter i just don't know how i should view this game anymore.---------------------------------------------------But what i'm saying is people on outside dont know that. If theres event thats blatantly just for fun and contributes nothing to the story then untag it - simple. If nothing else just to make things clear for those on the outside.
Right, now i'm just confused. In the past Rare has himself said the game and it's development team have an obligation to continue and value the storyline the brothers have handed to them then the next it's "Stuff happens. Whether or not it's worth remembering is a matter of opinion."
What is it then? A serious obligation with fun thrown in or just one big joke?
Cos if it's the latter i just don't know how i should view this game anymore.
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But what i'm saying is people on outside dont know that. If theres event thats blatantly just for fun and contributes nothing to the story then untag it - simple. If nothing else just to make things clear for those on the outside.
I deal with them every day; my friends at college i talk to about the game, the forum posters on mmorpg and gamespot, in-game at uriah, redpill rescue, youtube. Not everyone knows how this game works, how its story is written, how 'stuff happens'.
I know people who would frankly be disgusted at having an event like this considered part of the story. They'd simply disregard the game as a joke of the franchise.
Well i just shed a silent tear for those potential subscribers lost due to stubborn-ness around a personal timestamp. Past, present and apparently future. I'm done.
