Back that *** up.

**EndlessVoid**

Gunmen are simply too close in interlock, especially versus a Martial Artist or other hand-to-hand fighter.

While I realize that mid-range interlock had to be removed for the good of the 2-participant system, the extreme close range that characters are currently set at is simply no good for gunmen. Under the old system, Martial Artists used to close the distance with a successful move, and gunmen used to increase it. Frankly, I don't see the need for the removal of this system, as it allows interlock battles to look more natural (and certainly does away with that problem of guns sticking through one's opponent's body).

As physical distance in interlock is rarely enough to affect combat (most specials go out to a distance of 4 meters), it seems like playing with distance depending on what animation is shown wouldn't really affect the "hard" aspects of combat, while it would certainly make things look more realistic.

Am I nuts? Discuss.

- Void

**Braids-Omega**

If your nuts im Santa. I dont use gunman much but DO use it. I agree with this topic 100%

Ghostwise

I agree 100% as well...but I really just wanted to say that the Thread title is perfect. lol :smileywink:

Arther

Ever see Equilibrium? They fight pretty frikken close in there.

**cloudwolf** · 02/18/2006 16:24:25

If it fixes my guns constantly clipping into peoples chests then im happy...

Message Edited by cloudwol on 02-19-200612:24 AM

xDarkDragoNx · 02/18/2006 19:21:55

ArtherEld wrote:
Ever see Equilibrium? They fight pretty frikken close in there.

Yeah that gun martial art is different. All around the movie sucked though.

/agree with topic

Message Edited by xDarkDragoNx on 02-18-200610:21 PM

Ghostwise

xDarkDragoNx wrote:

ArtherEld wrote:
Ever see Equilibrium? They fight pretty frikken close in there.

Yeah that gun martial art is different. All around the movie sucked though.

/agree with topic
Message Edited by xDarkDragoNx on 02-18-200610:21 PM

You can't be serious.....Equilibrium sucked? Wow.....That was by far one of the more superior films I've ever seen. And it was only made on like a 200k budget. Kurt Wimmer's next movie looks just as badass....

UltraViolet

**EndlessVoid**

Well, obviously moves like Rifle Butt Smash and Pistol Whip should be close range.
But the other moves need to be moved back a touch.

- Void

**thornTree**

/agree

especially because of the problem with guns sticking into the opponent - while that could be a coolmove in and of itself, if it was intentional... :smileyvery-happy:

**Trayden**

maybe the machines are adding bayonets into the mix soon.

Beachhead

Ahem.. Equilibrium does not suck.

As for fighting to close, i think how it is right now is perfectly fine. Just need to make sure the NPC's and players are pointing the right direction when in interlock.

RockyB

I love the idea of bayonets SMILEY

But then we're jsut back to melee weapons again SMILEY

/agree

cantido

Yes, gunners should be backed up a bit. Why? It makes a difference when fighting MA vs gunner. most MA abilities have a limited range, which makes it more tactical to use gunner skills vs MA, because most Gunner skills have a much longer range in IL. So yes I do agree with you, but for a different reason.

**cloudwolf**

lets just stop impaling our enemies and im happy.

Roland_Deschain

I also would be happy if my gun didn't pass through my opponents body every time I get pulled into IL