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[8.1.1] We had to move because they had us dead to rights - Vector - 7/12/07
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Ascendent Logic

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I highly doubt that this, Lucen, will be the lone mech waving a white flag when it all goes down.   Talk and hypothesis are irrelavent during wartime.

 

Welcome to the Third Renaissance.

 

 

Capt. Neopill - Zion




Ascendent Logic

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hellstomp3r wrote:

I highly doubt that this, Lucen, will be the lone mech waving a white flag when it all goes down.   Talk and hypothesis are irrelavent during wartime.

 

Welcome to the Third Renaissance.

 

 

Capt. Neopill - Zion


If tonight is any indication, we won't be the one's waving the white flag.  And take a look at the first communication from Niobe here.  She flat out admits Zion never had any intention of working toward peace.  Can you blame the machines for not trusting them?  Humanity, throughout our history has done very little besides prove how violent and untrustworthy we are.  Since the invention of AI, we have tried to wipe the machines off the face of the earth for nothing more than having more valuable currency than us, then spent 6 cycles of the Matrix trying to destroy them, and now when given a real chance at peace, we find Zion once again preparing to wage war.

The machines are the innocents here.  Every move they've made has been justified by human treachery.



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Lucen wrote:

The machines are the innocents here.  Every move they've made has been justified by human treachery.
((now thats comedy))



Ascendent Logic

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hellstomp3r wrote:
Lucen wrote:

The machines are the innocents here.  Every move they've made has been justified by human treachery.
((now thats comedy))

And that's just glaring red light suggesting you can't disprove what I'm saying.  Keep up the one liner throw away responses.  It just shows you for what you are.



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Lucen wrote:
hellstomp3r wrote:
Lucen wrote:

The machines are the innocents here.  Every move they've made has been justified by human treachery.
((now thats comedy))

And that's just glaring red light suggesting you can't disprove what I'm saying.  Keep up the one liner throw away responses.  It just shows you for what you are.


In  case you havent noticed. I disagree with everything you have said. Red lights? Heh, those are muzzle flashes in your periferal. DUCK!

 

NP




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Lucen wrote:
hellstomp3r wrote:

I highly doubt that this, Lucen, will be the lone mech waving a white flag when it all goes down.   Talk and hypothesis are irrelavent during wartime.

 

Welcome to the Third Renaissance.

 

 

Capt. Neopill - Zion


If tonight is any indication, we won't be the one's waving the white flag.  And take a look at the first communication from Niobe here.  She flat out admits Zion never had any intention of working toward peace.  Can you blame the machines for not trusting them?  Humanity, throughout our history has done very little besides prove how violent and untrustworthy we are.  Since the invention of AI, we have tried to wipe the machines off the face of the earth for nothing more than having more valuable currency than us, then spent 6 cycles of the Matrix trying to destroy them, and now when given a real chance at peace, we find Zion once again preparing to wage war.

The machines are the innocents here.  Every move they've made has been justified by human treachery.


Niobe thought it was best we be ready should something like this happen again.

If the Machines wanted peace, they wouldn't have let it happen again.

Building a city with defenses isn't a hostile action. Calling off the Truce and sending the Machine army after Zion is.




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Neoteny wrote:
Lucen wrote:
hellstomp3r wrote:

I highly doubt that this, Lucen, will be the lone mech waving a white flag when it all goes down.   Talk and hypothesis are irrelavent during wartime.

 

Welcome to the Third Renaissance.

 

 

Capt. Neopill - Zion


If tonight is any indication, we won't be the one's waving the white flag.  And take a look at the first communication from Niobe here.  She flat out admits Zion never had any intention of working toward peace.  Can you blame the machines for not trusting them?  Humanity, throughout our history has done very little besides prove how violent and untrustworthy we are.  Since the invention of AI, we have tried to wipe the machines off the face of the earth for nothing more than having more valuable currency than us, then spent 6 cycles of the Matrix trying to destroy them, and now when given a real chance at peace, we find Zion once again preparing to wage war.

The machines are the innocents here.  Every move they've made has been justified by human treachery.


Niobe thought it was best we be ready should something like this happen again.

If the Machines wanted peace, they wouldn't have let it happen again.

Building a city with defenses isn't a hostile action. Calling off the Truce and sending the Machine army after Zion is.

Seconded.

((and im gonna stop posting now for a bit or i'll look like another Havocide,....pwnt))

 




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I agree with Ebola, the time has come to wipe the slate clean once more.


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You know, I think at this point, there's just too much bad blood, it's good this way, because after this, God willing both are alive, there'll be a clean slate to work with. There was alot of problems with the war ending through Neo and not through Zion as a whole. Hell, it's one of the things that pissed off the General.

But anyway, we in Zion are off to the matresses to let out some of this Bad Blood



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Niobe is simply informing you that for once they've done something to actively ensure their survival. I sat in on this meeting as I, like many others in E Pluribus Neo, were curious as to what the official Zion view was on all of this.

I'm quite impressed to say that for a lot of it, we're running along the same line of thoughts. By that, they were using the truce to prepare themselves.

Some have been complaining that all this pisses on Neo's memory, yet I disagree. The truce pissed over Neo's memory. Neo died for peace, the truce was a joke from day one. The Machines were content with it for only one reason, they thought that Zion wouldn't dare attempt to attack them. Break the truce and start the War all over again.

The reason the Machines broke the Truce is simple. A loss of control.

Look at them now, all their posturing and where is it getting them? No-where. Heck, they haven't managed to wipe out E Pluribus Neo, who were the "Terrorists of the System". Now they've got more to worry about.

To you Machines I say this; bring it on. You haven't killed us yet and you're not going to be able to now.

To our Zion brothers and sisters, I commend you all for keeping your cool. The important thing for you all now is not to give up, dig deep and stand together. That place you've built is a stroke of brilliance, now you have to defend it.

If you need anything from E Pluribus Neo, you know how to contact us.

Fight together, fight for your freedom.



Systemic Anomaly

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Khepril wrote:

Niobe is simply informing you that for once they've done something to actively ensure their survival. I sat in on this meeting as I, like many others in E Pluribus Neo, were curious as to what the official Zion view was on all of this.

I'm quite impressed to say that for a lot of it, we're running along the same line of thoughts. By that, they were using the truce to prepare themselves.

Some have been complaining that all this pisses on Neo's memory, yet I disagree. The truce pissed over Neo's memory. Neo died for peace, the truce was a joke from day one. The Machines were content with it for only one reason, they thought that Zion wouldn't dare attempt to attack them. Break the truce and start the War all over again.

The reason the Machines broke the Truce is simple. A loss of control.

Look at them now, all their posturing and where is it getting them? No-where. Heck, they haven't managed to wipe out E Pluribus Neo, who were the "Terrorists of the System". Now they've got more to worry about.

To you Machines I say this; bring it on. You haven't killed us yet and you're not going to be able to now.

To our Zion brothers and sisters, I commend you all for keeping your cool. The important thing for you all now is not to give up, dig deep and stand together. That place you've built is a stroke of brilliance, now you have to defend it.

If you need anything from E Pluribus Neo, you know how to contact us.

Fight together, fight for your freedom.

Fight together blah blah blah, thats all well and good but you've said yourselves already somewhere 'We broke the truce' isn't that right?   So now your saying the machines broke it? Hmm...

spha x





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*grins*

Now Thi$ $hould be very intere$ting....




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New Zion doesn't seem so innocent now.  Clearly they intended on finishing the war.  I'm sure Neo will be happy to know he lost his love and his life so Zion could delay the inevitable.

May there be mercy.




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Just remember, if the machines wipe out Zion and there is no one to stand against them, no one to fight for our freedom...How long do you Machine operatives think your masters will keep you around? There is no going back to the system, you are all in as much danger as us without the truce. Your all just people, strapped into a chair with a jack in your head. Just like the rest of us.....

Just remember, you always have a home in Zion.....


Captain ZeroMark
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Ascendent Logic

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ZeroMark wrote:
Just remember, if the machines wipe out Zion and there is no one to stand against them, no one to fight for our freedom...How long do you Machine operatives think your masters will keep you around? There is no going back to the system, you are all in as much danger as us without the truce. Your all just people, strapped into a chair with a jack in your head. Just like the rest of us.....

Just remember, you always have a home in Zion.....


Captain ZeroMark
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If the machines considered us a threat, we'd be dead already.  They don't operate like us.  They make cold hard calculated decisions and if they had come to the conclusion that we were dangerous to them, we wouldn't be here.  Instead, they are working with us for the benefit of the billions of humans still plugged into the system.

Again, we understand that not all of Zion was privy to or agrees with the decisions of Zion command.  We will welcome you with open arms if you wish to make a stand and walk away.  We will assist you if you wish to stay where you are and stop Zion command.  We will gladly sit down at the table with you if you are willing to remove Lock and his circle, turn them over to us, and disarm.

Zion's citizens have options for peace.  We will help with any of htem whether it's one person or thousands.

 
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